The ianevattable sacking

[officer_dibble]

About time we polled the masses. I’ve refrained from the right answer which was he should have gone after the play off. We can’t change the past. But how long has he got?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I'm not voting. For me it is option 4 Huddersfield. Proper performance and win, otherwise he can get his hiking boots on.

As an aside, can I have whatever the person voting for option 3 is on

[officer_dibble]

I'm not voting. For me it is option 4 Huddersfield. Proper performance and win, otherwise he can get his hiking boots on.

As an aside, can I have whatever the person voting for option 3 is on

Added that as an option.

Feels like a waste to give him another 2 weeks training when he’s just said he’s fecked up the whole summer and pre season. But I’m not Sharon.

[BWFC_Insane]

I don’t really see the argument of ‘give him another game’….we are aiming to go up. Is Evatt taking us top two this season, yes or no? And go from there. Game by game just means you never make a decision.

He won’t get sacked though because it’s all too soft.

[Mar]

I went for the give him 10 games but then again that's what I went for last time. There's more to it. Depends on whats happening in and around the ground and how much he and his team are buying into the tactic change.

If he looks lost and not got the appetite like he used to then that sort of makes up the decision. I like what he's done so far and I like how we play when it works but right now it's not working. That self belief of were the best team seems to be no longer there and were taking a beating due to lack of belief.

On the flip side. Evatt looks like he's lost a load of weight and toned up. He lives far from the ground and a load of exercise and hours working at the club probably takes quite the toll.

Not saying they're excuses but Evatt may need the help to get past this blip.

I said give him 10 games. Maybe that's down to 5. The players are struggling but still creating 18 shots. It's not like they're not creating shots ala the final days of other managers.

[Mar]

I don’t really see the argument of ‘give him another game’….we are aiming to go up. Is Evatt taking us top two this season, yes or no? And go from there. Game by game just means you never make a decision.

He won’t get sacked though because it’s all too soft.

Without going back over the history I suspect you would've called for his head in his first season prior to him getting promoted.

It's a risk either way.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

He gets a game against one of the teams we expect to be up there. A chance to start proving we're getting over a slump. A new manager doesn't need an international break to get up to speed as any half competent manager could get a better tune out of this lot.

[GhostoftheBok]

I think fans sack him and chairmen keep him.

You've got 8 new players in in a window that closed literally yesterday, with Ian Evatt as the key man that got them through the door.

To say sacking him (when the players clearly seem to understand why they're struggling) would cause dismay in any normal dressing room is probably a mild understatement.

Sacking the manager now would look like a lack of faith in the players. You'd be saying "Okay, you just arrived, but you've had enough time." They won't see it as just removing a manager whose time has come. They'll take it as being told they're not good enough to play the football they came here to play.

That probably won't sway anyone who wants him gone. It'll be there as a reality for the chairman, though.

A top manager who comes in can smooth that over, but chairmen very rarely sack a manager the players want to stick with.

Let him lose a few more and the players will happily put the blame for those results on the man at the top. Arse-covering bastards

[Bertie Wooster]

On the flip side. Evatt looks like he's lost a load of weight and toned up. He lives far from the ground and a load of exercise and hours working at the club probably takes quite the toll.

Not saying they're excuses but Evatt may need the help to get past this blip.

With the utmost respect I can't believe I've just read this !

[Bertie Wooster]

I think fans sack him and chairmen keep him.

You've got 8 new players in in a window that closed literally yesterday, with Ian Evatt as the key man that got them through the door.

To say sacking him (when the players clearly seem to understand why they're struggling) would cause dismay in any normal dressing room is probably a mild understatement.

Sacking the manager now would look like a lack of faith in the players. You'd be saying "Okay, you just arrived, but you've had enough time." They won't see it as just removing a manager whose time has come. They'll take it as being told they're not good enough to play the football they came here to play.

That probably won't sway anyone who wants him gone. It'll be there as a reality for the chairman, though.

A top manager who comes in can smooth that over, but chairmen very rarely sack a manager the players want to stick with.

Let him lose a few more and the players will happily put the blame for those results on the man at the top. Arse-covering bastards

Dismay, these players are not playing for the manager, they are playing like they have had enough of him.

[Mar]

On the flip side. Evatt looks like he's lost a load of weight and toned up. He lives far from the ground and a load of exercise and hours working at the club probably takes quite the toll.

Not saying they're excuses but Evatt may need the help to get past this blip.

With the utmost respect I can't believe I've just read this !

That was my effort of humanising the guy. We did the same with Gethin Jones when he had issues and we've done the same when Santos had issues. It's not always as black and white as Evatt's underperforming. It may be a case of he's dealt with other issues whilst taking the eye off the ball. Like I said, it's not excuses, but he could do with a reset to get back to the Evatt that was giving the players a kick up the ass for underperforming, at the minute, it felt like Evatt was shying away from that pitch side bollocking that needed to be delivered.

[GhostoftheBok]

Dismay, these players are not playing for the manager, they are playing like they have had enough of him.

No, they're not. There was no shortage of hard work in any of the matches. They're just not playing very well.

[BWFC_Insane]

Dismay, these players are not playing for the manager, they are playing like they have had enough of him.

No, they're not. There was no shortage of hard work in any of the matches. They're just not playing very well.

There was a massive shortage of basic commitment and hard work today.

[GhostoftheBok]

There was a massive shortage of basic commitment and hard work today.

Don't agree remotely. Last 15 minutes, yeah. Their heads went completely. Even then it wasn't a surrender.

If you looked at that game and thought "The players let the manager down today" then we differ, certainly.

[Bertie Wooster]

Dismay, these players are not playing for the manager, they are playing like they have had enough of him.

No, they're not. There was no shortage of hard work in any of the matches. They're just not playing very well.

Come on Ghost, hard work - really ?, they play like its a kick around in the park with nothing at stake - no intensity, no drive, no spirit, no desire, they move the ball around like an over 60's walking football team, its utter turgid rubbish most of the time.

You must watch a different game than me or have some different specs that make it look like we are playing at double the speed we actually are.

[BWFC_Insane]

There was a massive shortage of basic commitment and hard work today.

Don't agree remotely. Last 15 minutes, yeah. Their heads went completely. Even then it wasn't a surrender.

If you looked at that game and thought "The players let the manager down today" then we differ, certainly.

A number of times players pulled out of 50:50 challenges. Evatt went crazy a couple of times. Nobody can tell me this is a group giving its all. Santos behaves like he’s had 5 pints in the morning and it’s a Sunday lunch pub match. All the intensity and get up and go of a wet 5 day old ham wrap.

[GhostoftheBok]

Come on Ghost, hard work - really ?

Really. If you watched McAtee, Dion, Thommo, Cogley, etc and thought they weren't trying I'm not sure what to tell you.

I got pissed off at Dempsey. He made one 40 yard run, didn't get the ball and just stopped making those runs.

They were clearly trying, though. You can't run into space that doesn't exist.

[GhostoftheBok]

Santos behaves like he’s had 5 pints in the morning and it’s a Sunday lunch pub match.

Santos and pub in the same sentence. We're back, baby!

[Worthy4England]

Hard work doesn't equate to intelligent play. Running 400 miles in the wrong direction with a million miles of content, dont make it the right direction. This is the right way, only way. Working hard is the minimum, winning
results are the baseline.

It's pussy central.

[GhostoftheBok]

It's pussy central.

Genuinely no idea if that's a good or a bad thing.

Loads of vagina (presumably good) or lots of wusses?

Is it currently "pussy central", or is it pussy central if we make the right runs?