The ianevattable sacking

[Bertie Wooster]

I wonder if SB will leave as well if she's so loyal to Evatt.

[BWFC_Insane]

The "one trick pony" accusation is true this season, but it's not because we don't go from Pep to Pulis with a couple of subs.

"Go more direct to a big lad" isn't the only way to mix it up, as Arsenal showed yesterday.

If anything, asking Ian if we should go long lets him off the hook.

Where's the pace in behind to stretch games and reduce the press? Why does a team with 3 centre backs look so timid on set pieces? Why isn't the back three drilled on basic spacing to defend balls from wide positions, in a system that's designed to force the ball wide?

There are valid recruitment and tactical questions that are masked when people shout "get it to a big man."

Yeah we need to get the ball forward more quickly and with intensity but the way we need to do that is with ball carriers not lumping it. I will say that at times it’s crying out for us to stick one of the big centre backs wide on the right or left and hit them from Baxter just to change it up and then try and win it and play from there. But generally what we lack are outlets. Wingers. And Evatts inability to understand that is my big issue tactically.

No player in the squad he’s built is worth paying entrance money for. They are all decent technical players but there is no ooomph and certainly no exciting players. Nearest we had to that was Maghoma but he was still not an Ameobi.

[Worthy4England]

I could see the possibility that we win a few on the bounce (even with Evatt). If we did, say 5, we're at 1.9 ppg after 10. More than enough for floating voters to calm down. But the problems for me aren't that I think Evatt's shit, I don't. The squad's not shit (and up until pretty recent always looked like they were working for each other). We're a decent team for the most part and one you would expect to go close, even if I find possession football as boring as fcuk.

Therein lies my problem. He's not an obvious sack racer until maybe Saturday. The list of candidates almost certainly contains worse picks (but that's pretty normal - some folks want a change so I'll post this big list showing all the hospital passes- an approach that's been used on here, many times).

But, I can't talk for others, but my reasons for wanting a change are neither recent nor short term. They've been 4 years in the making. I just can't get past that we won't miss out on 95-98%, it would be that final hurdle. We didn't just get beat by Oxford in the playoffs, we got beat by Barnsley at home too.

I don't dislike Evatt, just feels a bit "nearly."

[GhostoftheBok]

The issue now is that Evatt looks like he'll be another bad run away from a genuine personal crisis.

He could go on a winning run, but even if he did the new "trimmed-down and positive Ian" increasingly looks like a even more of a mask than his usual projection.

If he stays I'll continue to vocally back him and his team, but it'll be difficult not to have a weather eye out for those black clouds.

As others have said (on here and elsewhere), he looks like a man who needs a break from footy.

I have no idea what his support network is like and if he has a strong one maybe he can reset. Hard to look at him and escape the view that the best option to a new man at the helm, though.

[Worthy4England]

I think that's correct. But what I would say, is getting through the rough bits is all part and parcel and comes with the territory of "big jobs." You're not earning big money on gimmies, beating Utd's kids by scoring a shedload. You're earning when the chips are well and truly down and the world is ganging up on you.

[GhostoftheBok]

I think that's correct. But what I would say, is getting through the rough bits is all part and parcel and comes with the territory of "big jobs." You're not earning big money on gimmies, beating Utd's kids by scoring a shedload. You're earning when the chips are well and truly down and the world is ganging up on you.

Agreed and I think previously he's had difficult moments and reacted.

In the second half of last season he started talking about how he "couldn't say" whether he'd be here past the summer and I was pretty annoyed about that. I still feel that may have cost us promotion.

However, this recent stuff is another order entirely. You can't be seen to be feeling sorry for yourself in any leadership role, but certainly not in football.

I was stood in the Wanderers dressing room yesterday for a first time in a while and it's a tight space. That's great when you're winning and happy, but those rooms can become vicious very quickly for a manager showing serious weakness. The players may rally around and help him, but eventually footballers tend to look after themselves and place blame anywhere but at home.

[nicholaldo]

There's rumours this morning of another backroom change.

Craddock out.

[The_Gun]

There's rumours this morning of another backroom change.

Craddock out.

That would suggest that Evatt is staying then.

[Bertie Wooster]

There's rumours this morning of another backroom change.

Craddock out.

Yes this seems to be gathering pace, another one (sheer speculation I suspect) is that GT has been given the captaincy and that a few other backroom staff may be out.

Usual Evatt, everyone's else's fault but him - if true extremely short sighted IMO, we will be back to square one after losing to Reading. SB & the board look to have bottled it.

[dave the minion]

If true, I wonder how the captaincy impacts Santos? Does he spit his dummy out and it sees the end of him in the team (which I sincerely hope is not the case, as when on form he's a cracking player), or does he see it as a weight off and relaxes back into the player that he was......

[boltonboris]

If true, I wonder how the captaincy impacts Santos? Does he spit his dummy out and it sees the end of him in the team (which I sincerely hope is not the case, as when on form he's a cracking player), or does he see it as a weight off and relaxes back into the player that he was......

I imagine Santos has made that decision himself. Not had it made for him

[nicholaldo]

There's rumours this morning of another backroom change.

Craddock out.

Yes this seems to be gathering pace, another one (sheer speculation I suspect) is that GT has been given the captaincy and that a few other backroom staff may be out.

Usual Evatt, everyone's else's fault but him - if true extremely short sighted IMO, we will be back to square one after losing to Reading. SB & the board look to have bottled it.

It's eminently plausible we might pick up a few good results in the next month - our run of league fixtures is generous - before the whole thing rears it's ugly head again when we hit the trickier run of fixtures right after that.

Bloody hell.

[Worthy4England]

There's rumours this morning of another backroom change.

Craddock out.

Yes this seems to be gathering pace, another one (sheer speculation I suspect) is that GT has been given the captaincy and that a few other backroom staff may be out.

Usual Evatt, everyone's else's fault but him - if true extremely short sighted IMO, we will be back to square one after losing to Reading. SB & the board look to have bottled it.

“We've been extremely impressed with Matt and we want a culture where we promote from within. That's what we should stand for and he deserves this. He's taken to the position like a duck to water. He obviously had an advantage knowing the group and knowing he was going to fit culturally, but I've been really impressed with what he's done with the players and the information he helps me with. The relationship he has with the other staff is also hugely important and he deserves this appointment. We are delighted to have him.”

Less than 12 months ago...I wonder who said this?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

The list of candidates almost certainly contains worse picks (but that's pretty normal - some folks want a change so I'll post this big list showing all the hospital passes- an approach that's been used on here, many times).

If you mean my list, I posted that to start a conversation about possibilities. There's a few on there that I reckon might do a job here, but others may have different opinions - what with it being a forum and that.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

It's eminently plausible we might pick up a few good results in the next month - our run of league fixtures is generous - before the whole thing rears it's ugly head again when we hit the trickier run of fixtures right after that.

Bloody hell.

Agreed - and it makes me nervous. As Worthy says, even a winning run doesn't prove much now - it's how we react to adversity. Not just on the pitch in the moment – "Oh no! That opposition player's stood where I want to pass! What do I do, boss? BOSS?!?!?!" – but off the pitch, the belief needed, momentum vs inertia.

The required PPG was always a big ask and it gets bigger with every dropped point. Although Oxford was shocking, I saw enough last seaosn to believe we could do it under Evatt but now that belief has been shot to pieces - and I'm sure there will be BWFC employees who feel the same way.

[Worthy4England]

The list of candidates almost certainly contains worse picks (but that's pretty normal - some folks want a change so I'll post this big list showing all the hospital passes- an approach that's been used on here, many times).

If you mean my list, I posted that to start a conversation about possibilities. There's a few on there that I reckon might do a job here, but others may have different opinions - what with it being a forum and that.

Not specifically, mate. Just that "said list" pretty much always contains likely hospital passes. I mean the one that was put up when we jettisoned LSL, had Megson on it, and no-one but no-one would take that seriously!

[DJBlu]

EIEIEIO.

Just when you think the club is going through the most stable of times.

It's almost as if we have a switch that says do not turn off and the intern has gotten a twitchy finger.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

The list of candidates almost certainly contains worse picks (but that's pretty normal - some folks want a change so I'll post this big list showing all the hospital passes- an approach that's been used on here, many times).

If you mean my list, I posted that to start a conversation about possibilities. There's a few on there that I reckon might do a job here, but others may have different opinions - what with it being a forum and that.

Not specifically, mate. Just that "said list" pretty much always contains likely hospital passes. I mean the one that was put up when we jettisoned LSL, had Megson on it, and no-one but no-one would take that seriously!

Fair enough.

I'm never quite sure what others would see as a good idea...... but I've never been as shocked by a BWFC managerial hire as Megson. Perhaps specifically trebling his wages to jump up two divisions. Wow.

[BWFC_Insane]

If Evatt stays and a coach has been sacked then imo that will be the most disgraceful decision this club has ever made. And it would need to be full pitchforks on Saturday.

I’d be absolutely disgusted in the owners and Evatt. It would signify leadership failures all over. Cowards too.

[Worthy4England]

If Evatt stays and a coach has been sacked then imo that will be the most disgraceful decision this club has ever made. And it would need to be full pitchforks on Saturday.

I’d be absolutely disgusted in the owners and Evatt. It would signify leadership failures all over. Cowards too.

Not sure it trumps selling the Club to Deano and Anderson...by about a country mile...