In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by Bertie Wooster » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:13 pm

Lots of rumours of a fall out between toxic Evatt and Charles, and its the club who have forced this deal

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:18 pm

I wonder if Mother Sharon and saint Ian were not a fan of Dions alleged female conquests outside of his relationship?

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by DJBlu » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:20 pm

Dion going is probably peak Evatt.

That performance might have been a reaction to how he's been treated?

I do think the players are disconnected from the management. I have yet to see any player celebrate with the bench for a while. Collins did acknowledge the away end today so they at least appreciate the fans.

I don't think Sharon Brittan understands how quickly this could turn.

Is this Ian's Rasiak moment? He's had a few other "manager" moments.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by DJBlu » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:20 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:18 pm
I wonder if Mother Sharon and saint Ian were not a fan of Dions alleged female conquests outside of his relationship?
They would've got rid of him in the summer surely?

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by Mar » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:22 pm

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That performance might have been a reaction to how he's been treated?
What performance are you referring to?

One fixture or multiple?

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by jmjhb » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:23 pm

You could argue that for roughly the same amount, we've now got a player that's 4 years younger and a more saleable asset.

And the value was probably at its peak this window.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by DJBlu » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:32 pm

Mar wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:22 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:20 pm
That performance might have been a reaction to how he's been treated?
What performance are you referring to?

One fixture or multiple?
Tonight, there's normally a modicum of response to a piss poor result, aka Rotherham.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:40 pm

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:13 pm
Lots of rumours of a fall out between toxic Evatt and Charles, and its the club who have forced this deal
Totally understandable, totally predictable, less believable.
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Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:18 pm
I wonder if Mother Sharon and saint Ian were not a fan of Dions alleged female conquests outside of his relationship?
Nah. They're not all that prim and proper. Ask Amy, or for that matter the doorman at Maryport Labour Club.
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You could argue that for roughly the same amount, we've now got a player that's 4 years younger and a more saleable asset.

And the value was probably at its peak this window.
You could indeed - it's a logical argument - but I wouldn't necessarily try it with the angrier sections of Bolton's support... and there's plenty of 'em.

McAtee (assuming that's who you mean) has a lot to prove before he's held in the same regard.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:40 pm

Huddersfield have had Dion on a list for a while. I suspect the structure of the deal for Taylor had more impact on this going ahead than anything related to fallings out at our end. There's over £2m they don't have to give Luton unless/until they go up. That's allowed them to pay more upfront for Dion, making it acceptable to us.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:41 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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Ask Amy, or for that matter the doorman at Maryport Labour Club.
Broad tastes, our Ian.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by The_Gun » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:45 pm

Dion has been shite for ages, so in isolation I’m not fussed about this. Slightly concerned that Evatt will be allowed to sign a replacement, though.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by jmjhb » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:49 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:40 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:13 pm
Lots of rumours of a fall out between toxic Evatt and Charles, and its the club who have forced this deal
Totally understandable, totally predictable, less believable.
officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:18 pm
I wonder if Mother Sharon and saint Ian were not a fan of Dions alleged female conquests outside of his relationship?
Nah. They're not all that prim and proper. Ask Amy, or for that matter the doorman at Maryport Labour Club.
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Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:23 pm
You could argue that for roughly the same amount, we've now got a player that's 4 years younger and a more saleable asset.

And the value was probably at its peak this window.
You could indeed - it's a logical argument - but I wouldn't necessarily try it with the angrier sections of Bolton's support... and there's plenty of 'em.

McAtee (assuming that's who you mean) has a lot to prove before he's held in the same regard.
I was referring to the more immediate signing of Randall, but McAtee's signing does fit better in this instance.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by Mar » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:50 pm

Feels like a punch to the gut this. I understand the thinking from a business perspective, sell players to get a return on investment so they don't end up going the way of Elmander and leaving on a free but ffs this stinks of bad business. We didn't flog Elmander to close rivals to help facilitate their promotion bid.

Letting Morley go on loan to help their promotion bid and leaving us with Scotty 'doesnt know when to retire' Arfield was just stupid. We might as well just flog Morley now and be done with all this beating around the bush nonsense to avoid flogging him last minute to Wycombe when we will undoubtedly accept a lower fee now they're heading out of major promotion candidate territory and into potential candidates.

As for flogging strikers, we've had Adeboyejo half assing it around the pitch for months now, he should've been the first on the chopping block. At least Dion put in a shift every match. No wonder Charles wanted to go, probably looked at our chances and thought we've got no fkin chance under Evatt so why not go. Had we removed Evatt, maybe we'd've had a different story.

With all the talk of his off the field scoring prowess, at least he was scoring on and off it.

Maybe they thought the win tonight would soften the blow. Not only did we put in an inept performance (albeit winning), they come out with this gem after the match.

FFS Bolton.

The comment:
'We 100 per cent need to sign a replacement and as I have said all along there will be ins and outs in this transfer window and I want to freshen the squad up. We will continue to look to do that.'

Is just aggravating. We didn't need any more strikers, what we needed was to improve the squad. Not sell off the best bits because our season has gone to the shitter. We could've lined up a new striker and brought him in as Dion was going, not come out with this message while we reflect on why it is we've persisted with the likes of Cameron over the hill Jerome, or even brought in Dan can't trap a ball N'lundulu.

We've brought a lot of players in that half arse their performances. Dion wasn't one of those. Not always the most clinical, but certainly one that worked his socks off and got the goals. Fair play to the guy.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by Mar » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:51 pm

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Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:45 pm
Dion has been shite for ages, so in isolation I’m not fussed about this. Slightly concerned that Evatt will be allowed to sign a replacement, though.
I'd argue Dion's been as good as he's ever been, but he's just been getting less chances because as a collective our performances have been shite. The guy's been feeding off scraps.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by Mar » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:53 pm

DJBlu wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:32 pm
Mar wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:22 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:20 pm
That performance might have been a reaction to how he's been treated?
What performance are you referring to?

One fixture or multiple?
Tonight, there's normally a modicum of response to a piss poor result, aka Rotherham.
Ah, didn't know whether you were eluding to Charles' half hour performance against Rotherham and his subsequent miss which may have been a contributing factor towards the decision to let him go.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:55 pm

DJBlu wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:20 pm
officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:18 pm
I wonder if Mother Sharon and saint Ian were not a fan of Dions alleged female conquests outside of his relationship?
They would've got rid of him in the summer surely?
Needs a scapegoat now though doesn’t he? Although yeah it might have made sense to sell him in the summer - get more money than a panic sale after you’ve fallen out with him.

Sharon’s taking the piss out of her customers now though.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:57 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:41 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:40 pm
Ask Amy, or for that matter the doorman at Maryport Labour Club.
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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:01 pm

Mar wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:51 pm
The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:45 pm
Dion has been shite for ages, so in isolation I’m not fussed about this. Slightly concerned that Evatt will be allowed to sign a replacement, though.
I'd argue Dion's been as good as he's ever been, but he's just been getting less chances because as a collective our performances have been shite. The guy's been feeding off scraps.
Apparently (I haven’t checked) he’s got the division’s highest number of Big Chances Missed (12). But we always knew he had that in his locker.

I liked Dion a lot but he was far from perfect and no matter what player goes, I stay.

The question is who replaces him. I understand why confidence in that process is low.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by truewhite15 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:07 pm

Collins will be having that #10 shirt next season.

I know that means bugger all to anyone else.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About: January 2025 Transfer Window

Post by Mar » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:10 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:01 pm
Mar wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:51 pm
The_Gun wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:45 pm
Dion has been shite for ages, so in isolation I’m not fussed about this. Slightly concerned that Evatt will be allowed to sign a replacement, though.
I'd argue Dion's been as good as he's ever been, but he's just been getting less chances because as a collective our performances have been shite. The guy's been feeding off scraps.
Apparently (I haven’t checked) he’s got the division’s highest number of Big Chances Missed (12). But we always knew he had that in his locker.

I liked Dion a lot but he was far from perfect and no matter what player goes, I stay.

The question is who replaces him. I understand why confidence in that process is low.
The highest number of big chances missed was frustrating, no doubt, but a player is more than just their goalscoring output. Okocha hadn't scored for a year at the club but it was clear how much of his impact was being had on the team. His pressing was a standout feature of some of our best performances. We've seen other players screw up close chances, Vic, Collins, etc. so I don't think Charles was alone in that category.

As for question in who replaces him. We got rid of Dapo and brought in Shola Shoretire. I fully expect us to bring in a loan signing that fails to deliver.

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