Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

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Who should be Bolton's next manager?

Poll ended at Fri Feb 21, 2025 12:01 pm

Steven Schumacher
23
79%
Leam Richardson
0
No votes
Rob Edwards
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No votes
Ryan Lowe
2
7%
Sam Allardyce
1
3%
Des Buckingham
0
No votes
Neil Harris
0
No votes
Gary O'Neil
1
3%
Dave Challinor
0
No votes
Leighton Baines
0
No votes
Damien Duff
0
No votes
Nigel Clough
0
No votes
Richie Wellens
1
3%
Mark Warburton
0
No votes
Dean Holden
0
No votes
A promising unknown
1
3%
 
Total votes: 29

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:20 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:17 pm
Lots of managers being linked who are better than the usual calibre at this level.

Hopefully they get the right one. The idea that there's only one possible man for the job and anyone else is a disaster is a bit silly, to be honest.

The trouble is that, after social has gone mental about him, anyone who isn't Schumacher will necessarily always be worse than Schumacher definitely would have been.
The club picked Schumacher. They can’t agree terms. So anyone else by default is their second choice. And maybe just ‘whoever doesn’t want paying too much’.

I’m not seeing these good proven managers either. Lots with a lot of failure and a few completely unproven.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:23 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:20 pm
The club picked Schumacher. They can’t agree terms.
If you say so. Can't say I know. Doesn't seem to be much evidence anyone else does either, mind you.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:29 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:23 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:20 pm
The club picked Schumacher. They can’t agree terms.
If you say so. Can't say I know. Doesn't seem to be much evidence anyone else does either, mind you.
Well I guess we can pretend that it isn’t happening. Iles himself said he’s been doing research on Schumacher without explicitly naming him. And that he was the only one he was doing research on.

But look perhaps you can tell us who the really good manager we can get is who will be cheaper than Schumacher and put out the sort of grafting organised highly motivated team Bolton fans want - who are the options with that background - and success? I’m not seeing them. Wagner has a very poor record as outlined. Buckingham is the wrong sort entirely and his only success of note was beating an Ian Evatt side. O Neil I suspect is a good guy but not league one ready and not likely to be cheap either.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by Prufrock » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:31 pm

There's absolutely no evidence at all there are any issues or hold ups. Boredom plus ITK rumours.
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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:34 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:31 pm
There's absolutely no evidence at all there are any issues or hold ups. Boredom plus ITK rumours.
True though Iles says it’s behind schedule.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:35 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:31 pm
There's absolutely no evidence at all there are any issues or hold ups. Boredom plus ITK rumours.
Can the knicker twisters please pay attention to this. The angst is almost as tedious as Evatt's sideways and backwards football.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:38 pm

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There's absolutely no evidence at all there are any issues or hold ups. Boredom plus ITK rumours.
Genuinely hilarious.

I mean I was very open when this started that I felt the prep should have been done well in advance of the sacking, but it is what it is.

People getting very upset over precisely zero verified information.

There's one poster on here that I'm assured works for the club and I'll accept that. We either view him as reliable or we don't. If he is, then none of this should produce panic. The club apparently anticipated this running until just before Crawley. So why are people getting wound up by it taking that long?

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:39 pm

So random theory. Let’s say things have gone awry.

This morning the daily mail randomly wrote an article saying Steve Thompson and Neil Redfern were linked to the job as a duo. Initially you’d think some self promotion…..

However….what if we were struggling to afford Schumacher and other options and the plan or backup plan was to try and persuade JD to stay on as manager till May and bring in two experienced coaches or one experienced one in Thompson - who Jules obviously played with to help?

Unlikely?

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Post by jmjhb » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:45 pm

I suspect we all need to be patient whilst they negotiate with the preferred candidate. Be reet.

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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:11 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:39 pm
So random theory. Let’s say things have gone awry.

This morning the daily mail randomly wrote an article saying Steve Thompson and Neil Redfern were linked to the job as a duo. Initially you’d think some self promotion…..

However….what if we were struggling to afford Schumacher and other options and the plan or backup plan was to try and persuade JD to stay on as manager till May and bring in two experienced coaches or one experienced one in Thompson - who Jules obviously played with to help?

Unlikely?
Honest mate - calm the fcuk down. :D When was the last time you believed anything in the Daily Mail? Seriously, it'll be who it'll be, I doubt they're looking on here for "fan sentiment analysis" - but these days you never know - it'll be announced when they're ready to announce it. They might have a whole negotiating plan around what to change and if and when, and sometimes time is a factor in those, taking over the club took longer than most envisaged, if we end up with someone who isn't Schumaker, I'm sure we'll spot it sooner or later.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by truewhite15 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:20 pm

The issue is now that there will always be certain folk, some amongst this parish, who believe that the board have f*cked up the appointment. If we don't appoint Schumacher, if it is someone else, then no amount of statements that the new man is who we wanted all along will do anything to dispel the fog of doubt and paranoia that has settled around the minds of some.

It will always and forever be "the board are soft, the board are broke, they're amateurs, they've bottled it" after every defeat, after every failed transfer. And Steven Schumacher will forever be elevated to mythical, messianic heights as the man who would have won the Prem and the Champs League with us if only Sharon had shown some ambition.

It's bullshit.

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Post by Bertie Wooster » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:26 pm

Someone who is normally spot on with all things BWFC related is saying that Schumacher has been in the building over the past 2 days, and was at the ground last night. The delay in the announcement can only be related to contract negotiations or the wider coaching set up etc.

I appreciate that there is a lot of ITK bollocks about, but this person is normally reliable (I say normally !)

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:34 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:20 pm
The issue is now that there will always be certain folk, some amongst this parish, who believe that the board have f*cked up the appointment. If we don't appoint Schumacher, if it is someone else, then no amount of statements that the new man is who we wanted all along will do anything to dispel the fog of doubt and paranoia that has settled around the minds of some.

It will always and forever be "the board are soft, the board are broke, they're amateurs, they've bottled it" after every defeat, after every failed transfer. And Steven Schumacher will forever be elevated to mythical, messianic heights as the man who would have won the Prem and the Champs League with us if only Sharon had shown some ambition.

It's bullshit.
The thing is your alternative is that everyone has to accept and believe everything the board says. Say that whoever is appointed was first choice and is the best candidate. But that isn’t reality is it?

This is the same owners who gave us Hill and then Evatt. Their record is not without blemish and hung onto Evatt far far too long in the face of overwhelming evidence against doing so.

I spent a long time not buying the ‘trust the process’ nonsense and I’d say that was because I had no trust in it.

The board I’m afraid and Markham I don’t trust to get this right. I’d like to. Because I want the club to succeed. But trust has to be earned. They haven’t earned it yet. Not for me. This is a chance for them to redeem themselves. And look it may be they rustle up someone better than Schumacher. Great. Or Schumacher may end up being the wrong fit. But they have to get it right and get someone who will get us out of this league.
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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:34 pm

People currently getting very upset about the fact we're definitely appointing Steven Gerrard any day now.

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Post by brommers95 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:37 pm

^A *fairly* reliable source

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:38 pm

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Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:34 pm
People currently getting very upset about the fact we're definitely appointing Steven Gerrard any day now.
Gerrard with Robbie Fowler as assistant. What could possibly go wrong?

Thing is I may have concerns about decision making but I’m confident Sharon and Markham would not do that. They may have caused some wobbles but they aren’t that bad.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:39 pm

brommers95 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:37 pm
^A *fairly* reliable source
Interesting FLW are usually good. I noted that weird Ed Johnson account the one the called Evatts sacking also saying this. But feels like there is a lot of conflicting noise out there. Iles did not sound encouraged earlier.

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Re: Who's the Rioch to Evatt's Neal?

Post by sonicthewhite » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:49 pm

Why are some people panicking? I'm with Worthy. It'll be who it'll be. I'd rather we take our time and get the right man in and potentially miss the end of the window, instead of catch the end of the window with the wrong un!
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Post by Spartan2 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:26 pm

I've been refreshing this page all day, I think everyone just wants it done so we can stop obsessing over it.

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