The Politics Thread

[Hoboh]

Starmer certainly showing what he’s good at the past few days. Right man and right time for an international crisis.

Good at this stuff. Terrible at the vision and public persuasion stuff. Them’s the breaks.

All the posturing in the world won't help if Trump backs out of NATO, the Norwegian fuel company refusing to re-fuel US forces, on principle, ain't going to help matters.

TBF, I've canned most of my shit that involves subscription from US companies. The only ones I still have is coz they'd already renewed...

Fcuk 'em. Pretty sure we didn't leave Europe to be American.

Agreed, but unfortunately due to successive governments both here and in Europe, we have needed the US.

It really is time for the Germans to get over their guilt trip from 80 years ago and start to play a real role in European defense, there are a few looking at it as an excuse to do little despite the US and UK standing by them during the Soviet era.

Not to make a political point, well I am really, how anyone can be instilled with confidence in the EU is way beyond comprehension.

[Worthy4England]

We will have huge logistical issues disaggregating US and EU countries from NATO. And Germany had a shit load of restriction as to what they could and couldn't do after WW2. Now, we need to go pound for euro, but we want to sit on the outside of Europe and tear down the agreements that collectively give us strength. Happy to see a plan from either wing, coz we've been deciding shit on three word sound bites for 15 years.

[BWFC_Insane]

We will have huge logistical issues disaggregating US and EU countries from NATO. And Germany had a shit load of restriction as to what they could and couldn't do after WW2. Now, we need to go pound for euro, but we want to sit on the outside of Europe and tear down the agreements that collectively give us strength. Happy to see a plan from either wing, coz we've been deciding shit on three word sound bites for 15 years.

I mean if ever the case for why leaving the EU was a complete disaster was needed - the last few weeks have effectively sealed it.

We need a united Europe. We should be in the EU and leading it instead we have to lead from outside.

Europe needs to effectively come together as a whole. There is strength in numbers in the world now.

The isolationists have been shown now conclusively to be wrong uns.

[Hoboh]

We will have huge logistical issues disaggregating US and EU countries from NATO. And Germany had a shit load of restriction as to what they could and couldn't do after WW2. Now, we need to go pound for euro, but we want to sit on the outside of Europe and tear down the agreements that collectively give us strength. Happy to see a plan from either wing, coz we've been deciding shit on three word sound bites for 15 years.

I mean if ever the case for why leaving the EU was a complete disaster was needed - the last few weeks have effectively sealed it.

We need a united Europe. We should be in the EU and leading it instead we have to lead from outside.

Europe needs to effectively come together as a whole. There is strength in numbers in the world now.

The isolationists have been shown now conclusively to be wrong uns.

Really? So because we are not in the EU they are a pile of nothing? As far as I know there is only us that has left to be in 'isolation'

Why do you find it so hard to see that beyond any trading agreements, the individual members of the EU have virtually feck all in common and couldn't agree to snow being white.

[BWFC_Insane]

We will have huge logistical issues disaggregating US and EU countries from NATO. And Germany had a shit load of restriction as to what they could and couldn't do after WW2. Now, we need to go pound for euro, but we want to sit on the outside of Europe and tear down the agreements that collectively give us strength. Happy to see a plan from either wing, coz we've been deciding shit on three word sound bites for 15 years.

I mean if ever the case for why leaving the EU was a complete disaster was needed - the last few weeks have effectively sealed it.

We need a united Europe. We should be in the EU and leading it instead we have to lead from outside.

Europe needs to effectively come together as a whole. There is strength in numbers in the world now.

The isolationists have been shown now conclusively to be wrong uns.

Really? So because we are not in the EU they are a pile of nothing? As far as I know there is only us that has left to be in 'isolation'

Why do you find it so hard to see that beyond any trading agreements, the individual members of the EU have virtually feck all in common and couldn't agree to snow being white.

The world is dividing up by superpower. Economically, militarily and even culturally.

Big blocks are forming and alliances. If this continues you don’t want to be left on the outside on your own. And America aren’t reliable allies anymore. Europe is what we have. And we made it harder to do business with our biggest trading partner hurting us economically and our leadership being absent from the EU has contributed to the military crisis we see now.

Who cares whether we are similar to Poles or Italians either. I mean what does LA and those in it have in common with Alabama?

[Hoboh]

We will have huge logistical issues disaggregating US and EU countries from NATO. And Germany had a shit load of restriction as to what they could and couldn't do after WW2. Now, we need to go pound for euro, but we want to sit on the outside of Europe and tear down the agreements that collectively give us strength. Happy to see a plan from either wing, coz we've been deciding shit on three word sound bites for 15 years.

I mean if ever the case for why leaving the EU was a complete disaster was needed - the last few weeks have effectively sealed it.

We need a united Europe. We should be in the EU and leading it instead we have to lead from outside.

Europe needs to effectively come together as a whole. There is strength in numbers in the world now.

The isolationists have been shown now conclusively to be wrong uns.

Really? So because we are not in the EU they are a pile of nothing? As far as I know there is only us that has left to be in 'isolation'

Why do you find it so hard to see that beyond any trading agreements, the individual members of the EU have virtually feck all in common and couldn't agree to snow being white.

The world is dividing up by superpower. Economically, militarily and even culturally.

Big blocks are forming and alliances. If this continues you don’t want to be left on the outside on your own. And America aren’t reliable allies anymore. Europe is what we have. And we made it harder to do business with our biggest trading partner hurting us economically and our leadership being absent from the EU has contributed to the military crisis we see now.

Who cares whether we are similar to Poles or Italians either. I mean what does LA and those in it have in common with Alabama?

How many times has LA and Alabama fought wars with each other?

A European security pact with serious members is one thing, being dictated to by a European government with different values is another.

European defence is a Joke, the Spanish, Portuguese and Italy, despite the blonde bimbo turning up to the opening of an envolope, are well short of current NATO defence spending now, these countries have high youth unemployment therfore plenty of recruits.

Hungry, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Slovenia,non EU, Albania, Serbia, European countries, would you trust them to deliver money and trained troops?

Military alliance is one thing, politics and geography another.

Actually, on reflection, with 'our biggest trading partner hurting us' and us sat on the ultimate deterrence, our nukes, I'd be inclined to tell them to go f%ck themselves.

Ukraine is not going to be in any position to do a deal with mad Vlad without the US being fully behind them, there is not, despite a hundred folk chanting at the end of Downing Street leading Starmer to comment to Zelensky, listen, we are all behind you, the appetite nor inclination across the UK nor Europe to pump either money or troops in there, same with the US. We just have to make sure this is Putins last invasion before he snuffs it, hopefully, the other tool, Medvedev goes at the same time.

About the only good thing currently happening, slimeball milliband is rumoured to be on his way out with net Zero stuck up his ass.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

There is no such thing as a European Government. You're making shit up again Hobes. Let me remind you again how it works...

European Commission (civil service) suggest things and put into action/manage what the European parliament & Council decide upon.

European Parliament (MPs) debate and vote on shit. MPs are democratically voted for by folk that live in the EU.

European Council (representatives of EU Heads of State) defines priorities and policy, negotiate agreements, appoint the officials that run the Commission/EU Institutions.

So, in summary. The Heads of State decide stuff, the Parliament pontificate and vote and the Commission do what they are told. So, if there was a European Army it would be decided upon by the governments of the EU countries. They would decide what it can/can't do, its budget and who runs it. Operationally it would likely be headed by one of the more major military countries, such as France, or ourselves were we in it. There are lots of problems to overcome practically and politically, but as we and the Americans have proven is very possible. Our capability has largely been designed around plugging into the Americans. We can do shit they are less capable of and vice versa. The problem we now have is we can't do much on our own, both from a capability and volume point of view. If the Americans are going to be cockwombles for the foreseeable, then designing a new capability with the likes of France, Germany and Poland makes a lot of sense. Whilst limited in size and capability there are a few keen Baltic countries willing to chip in. Russia might wave their willy around, but they are thinking twice if they take Europe seriously. Us, France, Germany and a few others, coordinated and kitted out properly will keep Putin thinking twice.

[BWFC_Insane]

We will have huge logistical issues disaggregating US and EU countries from NATO. And Germany had a shit load of restriction as to what they could and couldn't do after WW2. Now, we need to go pound for euro, but we want to sit on the outside of Europe and tear down the agreements that collectively give us strength. Happy to see a plan from either wing, coz we've been deciding shit on three word sound bites for 15 years.

I mean if ever the case for why leaving the EU was a complete disaster was needed - the last few weeks have effectively sealed it.

We need a united Europe. We should be in the EU and leading it instead we have to lead from outside.

Europe needs to effectively come together as a whole. There is strength in numbers in the world now.

The isolationists have been shown now conclusively to be wrong uns.

Really? So because we are not in the EU they are a pile of nothing? As far as I know there is only us that has left to be in 'isolation'

Why do you find it so hard to see that beyond any trading agreements, the individual members of the EU have virtually feck all in common and couldn't agree to snow being white.

The world is dividing up by superpower. Economically, militarily and even culturally.

Big blocks are forming and alliances. If this continues you don’t want to be left on the outside on your own. And America aren’t reliable allies anymore. Europe is what we have. And we made it harder to do business with our biggest trading partner hurting us economically and our leadership being absent from the EU has contributed to the military crisis we see now.

Who cares whether we are similar to Poles or Italians either. I mean what does LA and those in it have in common with Alabama?

How many times has LA and Alabama fought wars with each other?

A European security pact with serious members is one thing, being dictated to by a European government with different values is another.

European defence is a Joke, the Spanish, Portuguese and Italy, despite the blonde bimbo turning up to the opening of an envolope, are well short of current NATO defence spending now, these countries have high youth unemployment therfore plenty of recruits.

Hungry, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Slovenia,non EU, Albania, Serbia, European countries, would you trust them to deliver money and trained troops?

Military alliance is one thing, politics and geography another.

Actually, on reflection, with 'our biggest trading partner hurting us' and us sat on the ultimate deterrence, our nukes, I'd be inclined to tell them to go f%ck themselves.

Ukraine is not going to be in any position to do a deal with mad Vlad without the US being fully behind them, there is not, despite a hundred folk chanting at the end of Downing Street leading Starmer to comment to Zelensky, listen, we are all behind you, the appetite nor inclination across the UK nor Europe to pump either money or troops in there, same with the US. We just have to make sure this is Putins last invasion before he snuffs it, hopefully, the other tool, Medvedev goes at the same time.

About the only good thing currently happening, slimeball milliband is rumoured to be on his way out with net Zero stuck up his ass.

This is word salad that basically comes down to you don’t like European folk. So don’t want to be in a club with them.

But the problem is that geography and economics means it’s the only club we can be in. And not being in it weakens us.

The thing with Europe is that the politics changes all the time. You have far right leaders now in the EU mixed with traditional centre right and god knows what else. But the EU was a trading club. It could and should also have been a collective defence club against Putin.

You can say ‘oh I don’t like them’ but our options were always EU or nothing and the nothing option has become untenable now as the world shifts away from mid sized countries existing peacefully within their own realm. You accept that reality too.

We had influence in the EU and indeed now were we members would have more than influence.

[Hoboh]

We will have huge logistical issues disaggregating US and EU countries from NATO. And Germany had a shit load of restriction as to what they could and couldn't do after WW2. Now, we need to go pound for euro, but we want to sit on the outside of Europe and tear down the agreements that collectively give us strength. Happy to see a plan from either wing, coz we've been deciding shit on three word sound bites for 15 years.

I mean if ever the case for why leaving the EU was a complete disaster was needed - the last few weeks have effectively sealed it.

We need a united Europe. We should be in the EU and leading it instead we have to lead from outside.

Europe needs to effectively come together as a whole. There is strength in numbers in the world now.

The isolationists have been shown now conclusively to be wrong uns.

Really? So because we are not in the EU they are a pile of nothing? As far as I know there is only us that has left to be in 'isolation'

Why do you find it so hard to see that beyond any trading agreements, the individual members of the EU have virtually feck all in common and couldn't agree to snow being white.

The world is dividing up by superpower. Economically, militarily and even culturally.

Big blocks are forming and alliances. If this continues you don’t want to be left on the outside on your own. And America aren’t reliable allies anymore. Europe is what we have. And we made it harder to do business with our biggest trading partner hurting us economically and our leadership being absent from the EU has contributed to the military crisis we see now.

Who cares whether we are similar to Poles or Italians either. I mean what does LA and those in it have in common with Alabama?

How many times has LA and Alabama fought wars with each other?

A European security pact with serious members is one thing, being dictated to by a European government with different values is another.

European defence is a Joke, the Spanish, Portuguese and Italy, despite the blonde bimbo turning up to the opening of an envolope, are well short of current NATO defence spending now, these countries have high youth unemployment therfore plenty of recruits.

Hungry, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Slovenia,non EU, Albania, Serbia, European countries, would you trust them to deliver money and trained troops?

Military alliance is one thing, politics and geography another.

Actually, on reflection, with 'our biggest trading partner hurting us' and us sat on the ultimate deterrence, our nukes, I'd be inclined to tell them to go f%ck themselves.

Ukraine is not going to be in any position to do a deal with mad Vlad without the US being fully behind them, there is not, despite a hundred folk chanting at the end of Downing Street leading Starmer to comment to Zelensky, listen, we are all behind you, the appetite nor inclination across the UK nor Europe to pump either money or troops in there, same with the US. We just have to make sure this is Putins last invasion before he snuffs it, hopefully, the other tool, Medvedev goes at the same time.

About the only good thing currently happening, slimeball milliband is rumoured to be on his way out with net Zero stuck up his ass.

This is word salad that basically comes down to you don’t like European folk. So don’t want to be in a club with them.

But the problem is that geography and economics means it’s the only club we can be in. And not being in it weakens us.

The thing with Europe is that the politics changes all the time. You have far right leaders now in the EU mixed with traditional centre right and god knows what else. But the EU was a trading club. It could and should also have been a collective defence club against Putin.

You can say ‘oh I don’t like them’ but our options were always EU or nothing and the nothing option has become untenable now as the world shifts away from mid sized countries existing peacefully within their own realm. You accept that reality too.

We had influence in the EU and indeed now were we members would have more than influence.

It has bugger all to do with not 'liking' Europeans, if anything, there is still animosity on the part of a number of them towards the UK.
Many European countries operate on a totally different wavelength to us and will and did obstruct anything the UK pressed when we were in their little German run club.
Actually AT has it right with the countries we should be working on defence with and I reckon that will happen. Apparently, today, the maybe next German Chancellor was mooting about us and the French giving them a nuclear guarantee.

[BWFC_Insane]

We will have huge logistical issues disaggregating US and EU countries from NATO. And Germany had a shit load of restriction as to what they could and couldn't do after WW2. Now, we need to go pound for euro, but we want to sit on the outside of Europe and tear down the agreements that collectively give us strength. Happy to see a plan from either wing, coz we've been deciding shit on three word sound bites for 15 years.

I mean if ever the case for why leaving the EU was a complete disaster was needed - the last few weeks have effectively sealed it.

We need a united Europe. We should be in the EU and leading it instead we have to lead from outside.

Europe needs to effectively come together as a whole. There is strength in numbers in the world now.

The isolationists have been shown now conclusively to be wrong uns.

Really? So because we are not in the EU they are a pile of nothing? As far as I know there is only us that has left to be in 'isolation'

Why do you find it so hard to see that beyond any trading agreements, the individual members of the EU have virtually feck all in common and couldn't agree to snow being white.

The world is dividing up by superpower. Economically, militarily and even culturally.

Big blocks are forming and alliances. If this continues you don’t want to be left on the outside on your own. And America aren’t reliable allies anymore. Europe is what we have. And we made it harder to do business with our biggest trading partner hurting us economically and our leadership being absent from the EU has contributed to the military crisis we see now.

Who cares whether we are similar to Poles or Italians either. I mean what does LA and those in it have in common with Alabama?

How many times has LA and Alabama fought wars with each other?

A European security pact with serious members is one thing, being dictated to by a European government with different values is another.

European defence is a Joke, the Spanish, Portuguese and Italy, despite the blonde bimbo turning up to the opening of an envolope, are well short of current NATO defence spending now, these countries have high youth unemployment therfore plenty of recruits.

Hungry, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Slovenia,non EU, Albania, Serbia, European countries, would you trust them to deliver money and trained troops?

Military alliance is one thing, politics and geography another.

Actually, on reflection, with 'our biggest trading partner hurting us' and us sat on the ultimate deterrence, our nukes, I'd be inclined to tell them to go f%ck themselves.

Ukraine is not going to be in any position to do a deal with mad Vlad without the US being fully behind them, there is not, despite a hundred folk chanting at the end of Downing Street leading Starmer to comment to Zelensky, listen, we are all behind you, the appetite nor inclination across the UK nor Europe to pump either money or troops in there, same with the US. We just have to make sure this is Putins last invasion before he snuffs it, hopefully, the other tool, Medvedev goes at the same time.

About the only good thing currently happening, slimeball milliband is rumoured to be on his way out with net Zero stuck up his ass.

This is word salad that basically comes down to you don’t like European folk. So don’t want to be in a club with them.

But the problem is that geography and economics means it’s the only club we can be in. And not being in it weakens us.

The thing with Europe is that the politics changes all the time. You have far right leaders now in the EU mixed with traditional centre right and god knows what else. But the EU was a trading club. It could and should also have been a collective defence club against Putin.

You can say ‘oh I don’t like them’ but our options were always EU or nothing and the nothing option has become untenable now as the world shifts away from mid sized countries existing peacefully within their own realm. You accept that reality too.

We had influence in the EU and indeed now were we members would have more than influence.

It has bugger all to do with not 'liking' Europeans, if anything, there is still animosity on the part of a number of them towards the UK.
Many European countries operate on a totally different wavelength to us and will and did obstruct anything the UK pressed when we were in their little German run club.
Actually AT has it right with the countries we should be working on defence with and I reckon that will happen. Apparently, today, the maybe next German Chancellor was mooting about us and the French giving them a nuclear guarantee.

Animosity to the UK. Who cares? I think this is pretty thin skinned. We were big players in the EU. Then we weren’t. We’ve been largely insignificant since leaving and only Starmer and his huge efforts to work with international partners is making us have any global relevance again.

Like I say the old arguments are pretty dead now. We need to be part of a big partnership and it would be much easier if we were in the EU. We can’t and shouldn’t rely on the USA for much. Trump and his entourage of far right nutters being one reason but I mean even the democrats who’ve been in office don’t really care much about UK or Europe and we’ve ridden their coat tails for too long.

[Hoboh]

Slovakia and Hungary, would vote to block any deployment of soldiers from the alliance to Ukraine. This is due to their close relationship with Russia.

Giorgia Meloni said on Monday that 'we will not send Italian soldiers to Ukraine'.

Spain has said it is 'too early to talk about deploying troops'.

Starmer is banging his head against a European wall, currently Macmouth, sorry Macron is winding his neck in.

Great EUROPEAN unity.

The truth, as unpalatable as it is, we have to look to our future with a few dependable countries, post Ukraine, at least until Trumps out, God forbid that idiot Vance follows him.

[BWFC_Insane]

Slovakia and Hungary, would vote to block any deployment of soldiers from the alliance to Ukraine. This is due to their close relationship with Russia.

Giorgia Meloni said on Monday that 'we will not send Italian soldiers to Ukraine'.

Spain has said it is 'too early to talk about deploying troops'.

Starmer is banging his head against a European wall, currently Macmouth, sorry Macron is winding his neck in.

Great EUROPEAN unity.

The truth, as unpalatable as it is, we have to look to our future with a few dependable countries, post Ukraine, at least until Trumps out, God forbid that idiot Vance follows him.

There is more to who we should work with than who would or could send troops to Ukraine.

Starmer and Meloni are diametrically politically opposed but they work together because the migrant issue which is only going to get worse by the way, impacts us both.

The reality is that imperfect partnerships are better than no partnership in the world in 2025. That’s not even a debate. And not everything can be entirely transactional. Maybe we do more to defend Ukraine than others but that’s the nature of it.

[Hoboh]

Slovakia and Hungary, would vote to block any deployment of soldiers from the alliance to Ukraine. This is due to their close relationship with Russia.

Giorgia Meloni said on Monday that 'we will not send Italian soldiers to Ukraine'.

Spain has said it is 'too early to talk about deploying troops'.

Starmer is banging his head against a European wall, currently Macmouth, sorry Macron is winding his neck in.

Great EUROPEAN unity.

The truth, as unpalatable as it is, we have to look to our future with a few dependable countries, post Ukraine, at least until Trumps out, God forbid that idiot Vance follows him.

There is more to who we should work with than who would or could send troops to Ukraine.

Starmer and Meloni are diametrically politically opposed but they work together because the migrant issue which is only going to get worse by the way, impacts us both.

The reality is that imperfect partnerships are better than no partnership in the world in 2025. That’s not even a debate. And not everything can be entirely transactional. Maybe we do more to defend Ukraine than others but that’s the nature of it.

You really do live the collective, globalist life don't you.
Mellons is actually doing Jack about migrants other than a few words, bit like Starmer smashing all these gangs. It finding nothing.

[BWFC_Insane]

Slovakia and Hungary, would vote to block any deployment of soldiers from the alliance to Ukraine. This is due to their close relationship with Russia.

Giorgia Meloni said on Monday that 'we will not send Italian soldiers to Ukraine'.

Spain has said it is 'too early to talk about deploying troops'.

Starmer is banging his head against a European wall, currently Macmouth, sorry Macron is winding his neck in.

Great EUROPEAN unity.

The truth, as unpalatable as it is, we have to look to our future with a few dependable countries, post Ukraine, at least until Trumps out, God forbid that idiot Vance follows him.

There is more to who we should work with than who would or could send troops to Ukraine.

Starmer and Meloni are diametrically politically opposed but they work together because the migrant issue which is only going to get worse by the way, impacts us both.

The reality is that imperfect partnerships are better than no partnership in the world in 2025. That’s not even a debate. And not everything can be entirely transactional. Maybe we do more to defend Ukraine than others but that’s the nature of it.

You really do live the collective, globalist life don't you.
Mellons is actually doing Jack about migrants other than a few words, bit like Starmer smashing all these gangs. It finding nothing.

You mean that the agreement we reached with the French last week that they will start again apprehending small boats is nothing?

Look - my point is that China, Russia and the US are carving up the world as we speak and none of them care about us. We can either sit in isolation achieving nothing and at massive risk or be partners with Europe who are geographically and economically our closest allies now.

You can pick at history or even at issues in Europe but the underlying fact is that right now they are the only gig in town.

[Hoboh]

Slovakia and Hungary, would vote to block any deployment of soldiers from the alliance to Ukraine. This is due to their close relationship with Russia.

Giorgia Meloni said on Monday that 'we will not send Italian soldiers to Ukraine'.

Spain has said it is 'too early to talk about deploying troops'.

Starmer is banging his head against a European wall, currently Macmouth, sorry Macron is winding his neck in.

Great EUROPEAN unity.

The truth, as unpalatable as it is, we have to look to our future with a few dependable countries, post Ukraine, at least until Trumps out, God forbid that idiot Vance follows him.

There is more to who we should work with than who would or could send troops to Ukraine.

Starmer and Meloni are diametrically politically opposed but they work together because the migrant issue which is only going to get worse by the way, impacts us both.

The reality is that imperfect partnerships are better than no partnership in the world in 2025. That’s not even a debate. And not everything can be entirely transactional. Maybe we do more to defend Ukraine than others but that’s the nature of it.

You really do live the collective, globalist life don't you.
Mellons is actually doing Jack about migrants other than a few words, bit like Starmer smashing all these gangs. It finding nothing.

You mean that the agreement we reached with the French last week that they will start again apprehending small boats is nothing?

Look - my point is that China, Russia and the US are carving up the world as we speak and none of them care about us. We can either sit in isolation achieving nothing and at massive risk or be partners with Europe who are geographically and economically our closest allies now.

You can pick at history or even at issues in Europe but the underlying fact is that right now they are the only gig in town.

I'll believe the French when 550 like yesterday are not crossing.

It may surprise you somewhat, but broadly, I agree with your sentiment but unlike you, there are some of our European neighbours I would happily hang out to dry, mainly those who joined the EU to fleece those filling up the pot and contribute little other than obstacles and whinging when expected to, do the right thing.
Politically No, trade yes, defence yes, with the right people, unfortunately, there are too many prepared to roll over rather than dig in.

[TANGODANCER]

Here's one, straight from the horses mouth, as I ran a mailroom till retiring in 2010. At that time (after several rises) a first class postage stamp was 0.41 pence. The government are now thinking of charging £1-70 p. Good old privateisation.

[Hoboh]

I'm thinking of applying for a job as an adviser to the speaker of the house. Apparently, the travel perks are stupendous.

[Worthy4England]

I'm thinking of applying for a job as an adviser to the speaker of the house. Apparently, the travel perks are stupendous.

It's your right to apply mate, although I'm not sure there's currently a vacancy. Wish you luck. You seem to have all the qualities a Speaker might need in their advisory team...

[Hoboh]

I'm thinking of applying for a job as an adviser to the speaker of the house. Apparently, the travel perks are stupendous.

It's your right to apply mate, although I'm not sure there's currently a vacancy. Wish you luck. You seem to have all the qualities a Speaker might need in their advisory team...

Reality is, I actually have a conscience and wouldn't stoop so low to rob everyone else

It's bloody disgusting how these people treat taxpayer funding, I'd go so far as to borrow Musk for 6 months, but hey, seems, as usual, we hold our noses and let them fleece us. It's nice, just like Robotic Reeves, when you can get your second home council tax payed for you by the people you are already, or about to fleece

[BWFC_Insane]

I'm thinking of applying for a job as an adviser to the speaker of the house. Apparently, the travel perks are stupendous.

It's your right to apply mate, although I'm not sure there's currently a vacancy. Wish you luck. You seem to have all the qualities a Speaker might need in their advisory team...

Reality is, I actually have a conscience and wouldn't stoop so low to rob everyone else

It's bloody disgusting how these people treat taxpayer funding, I'd go so far as to borrow Musk for 6 months, but hey, seems, as usual, we hold our noses and let them fleece us. It's nice, just like Robotic Reeves, when you can get your second home council tax payed for you by the people you are already, or about to fleece

Musk is funneling all public money towards his own interests. Only a total idiot would think that was a good idea.