'None of the above': Who's your player of the year 2024/25?

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Who's your Player of the Year 2024/25?

Poll ended at Sat May 31, 2025 5:23 pm

George Johnston
0
No votes
Aaron Collins
4
25%
Josh Dacres-Cogley
7
44%
George Thomason
2
13%
John McAtee
0
No votes
Szabi Schon
1
6%
Josh Sheehan
0
No votes
Nathan Baxter
0
No votes
Ricardo Santos
0
No votes
Luke Southwood
0
No votes
Jay Matete
0
No votes
Will Forrester
0
No votes
Jordi Osei-Tutu
0
No votes
Eoin Toal
0
No votes
Aaron Morley
1
6%
Gethin Jones
0
No votes
Dion Charles
1
6%
Victor Adeboyejo
0
No votes
Chris Forino
0
No votes
Alex Murphy
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 16

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun May 04, 2025 6:55 pm

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Post by irie Cee Bee » Sun May 04, 2025 9:27 pm

Didn't realize that Schon got so many. I wonder what his role will be when we ditch Evatts system. He and Tutu are not really full backs but I can see where Tutu could be an attacking full back as he can defend. Schon cant defend so, no to being a full back, but as a winger in the new system I would imagine. Should be able to play as a wide attacker as this stat shows.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun May 04, 2025 11:48 pm

irie Cee Bee wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 9:27 pm
Didn't realize that Schon got so many. I wonder what his role will be when we ditch Evatts system. He and Tutu are not really full backs but I can see where Tutu could be an attacking full back as he can defend. Schon cant defend so, no to being a full back, but as a winger in the new system I would imagine. Should be able to play as a wide attacker as this stat shows.
Schon is not a winger. Sorry but he lacks virtually all the necessary components. No turn of pace. Dreadful delivery. Severely one footed. He’s just not in any way shape or form suited to playing that role. What role he is suited to I’m not sure at all.

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Re: 'None of the above': Who's your player of the year 2024/25?

Post by The_Gun » Mon May 05, 2025 12:57 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 11:48 pm
irie Cee Bee wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 9:27 pm
Didn't realize that Schon got so many. I wonder what his role will be when we ditch Evatts system. He and Tutu are not really full backs but I can see where Tutu could be an attacking full back as he can defend. Schon cant defend so, no to being a full back, but as a winger in the new system I would imagine. Should be able to play as a wide attacker as this stat shows.
Schon is not a winger. Sorry but he lacks virtually all the necessary components. No turn of pace. Dreadful delivery. Severely one footed. He’s just not in any way shape or form suited to playing that role. What role he is suited to I’m not sure at all.
I have to agree with Insano on this one. Schön is a dud.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Mon May 05, 2025 10:09 am

The_Gun wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 12:57 am

I have to agree with Insano on this one. Schön is a dud.
Can't agree on that. For me Schon is one of the best players in the team. He doesn't give up and is able to beat a man and get forward and supply balls into the box. You can hardly blame him if others can't finish.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 05, 2025 12:13 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 10:09 am
The_Gun wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 12:57 am

I have to agree with Insano on this one. Schön is a dud.
Can't agree on that. For me Schon is one of the best players in the team. He doesn't give up and is able to beat a man and get forward and supply balls into the box. You can hardly blame him if others can't finish.

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Has he ever beaten his man? He was clean through Saturday, couldn’t miss. Still did. Never looked like scoring. He’s no attacker that’s for sure.

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Post by nicholaldo » Mon May 05, 2025 12:31 pm

irie Cee Bee wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 9:27 pm
Didn't realize that Schon got so many. I wonder what his role will be when we ditch Evatts system. He and Tutu are not really full backs but I can see where Tutu could be an attacking full back as he can defend. Schon cant defend so, no to being a full back, but as a winger in the new system I would imagine. Should be able to play as a wide attacker as this stat shows.

I suspect he might not have one. At least a starting one anyway.

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Post by The_Gun » Mon May 05, 2025 12:54 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 12:13 pm
TANGODANCER wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 10:09 am
The_Gun wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 12:57 am

I have to agree with Insano on this one. Schön is a dud.
Can't agree on that. For me Schon is one of the best players in the team. He doesn't give up and is able to beat a man and get forward and supply balls into the box. You can hardly blame him if others can't finish.

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Has he ever beaten his man? He was clean through Saturday, couldn’t miss. Still did. Never looked like scoring. He’s no attacker that’s for sure.
He seems to try hard, but doesn’t have many other obvious attributes. The fact he has multiple caps for Hungary gives me a slither of hope that he just hasn’t found his groove yet, but on the basis of his first season with us he looks a very poor signing.

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Re: 'None of the above': Who's your player of the year 2024/25?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 05, 2025 12:58 pm

nicholaldo wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 12:31 pm
irie Cee Bee wrote:
Sun May 04, 2025 9:27 pm
Didn't realize that Schon got so many. I wonder what his role will be when we ditch Evatts system. He and Tutu are not really full backs but I can see where Tutu could be an attacking full back as he can defend. Schon cant defend so, no to being a full back, but as a winger in the new system I would imagine. Should be able to play as a wide attacker as this stat shows.
I suspect he might not have one. At least a starting one anyway.
Aye. I could be wrong but I don't think he's played a single minute at wingback for Schumacher. I suspect he has been given time as an inverted winger partly for audit purposes but also perhaps through lack of alternatives.

Related: Four of his five assists were for Evatt (Dempsey at Barrow, McAtee's opener at Northampton, Collins' late winner home to Blackpool, McAtee's temporary equaliser home to Cambridge). His only goal involvement for Schuey was the cross for McAtee's second and our third at Shrewsbury. In partial contrast, half of Cogz' 8 assists have come since Evatt left.
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Mon May 05, 2025 12:54 pm
He seems to try hard, but doesn’t have many other obvious attributes. The fact he has multiple caps for Hungary gives me a slither of hope that he just hasn’t found his groove yet, but on the basis of his first season with us he looks a very poor signing.
He cares a lot - arguably too much, given some of his tackles and yellows - but I'm still not sure quite what he is. For those reasons, along with a pricetag as yet unjustified, he's a bit like McAtee.

What concerns me more is that quite a few coaches seem to have struggled to identify his best position. It's possible he doesn't really have one - that he is his own unique 'bag of bits'.

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Re: 'None of the above': Who's your player of the year 2024/25?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 05, 2025 1:03 pm

The_Gun wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 12:54 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 12:13 pm
TANGODANCER wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 10:09 am
The_Gun wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 12:57 am

I have to agree with Insano on this one. Schön is a dud.
Can't agree on that. For me Schon is one of the best players in the team. He doesn't give up and is able to beat a man and get forward and supply balls into the box. You can hardly blame him if others can't finish.

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Has he ever beaten his man? He was clean through Saturday, couldn’t miss. Still did. Never looked like scoring. He’s no attacker that’s for sure.
He seems to try hard, but doesn’t have many other obvious attributes. The fact he has multiple caps for Hungary gives me a slither of hope that he just hasn’t found his groove yet, but on the basis of his first season with us he looks a very poor signing.
I think he probably is ok if the right role is available but I’m not sure what that role is. I suspect it’s a Jamie Pollock style ‘wide man’ in a 442. He’s scrappy and works and in a team where he’s not expected to hit the byline or create much he’d be ok there.

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Post by irie Cee Bee » Mon May 05, 2025 1:11 pm

Schon cant shoot to save his life, but is one of the few players we have that can carry the ball forward when he gets it at some pace, and not always looking to go backwards and sideways. I doubt Schuey will be looking to get rid of him, and I think he can play as a wide midfield attacker in this team.

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Re: 'None of the above': Who's your player of the year 2024/25?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 05, 2025 1:25 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon May 05, 2025 1:03 pm
I think he probably is ok if the right role is available but I’m not sure what that role is. I suspect it’s a Jamie Pollock style ‘wide man’ in a 442. He’s scrappy and works and in a team where he’s not expected to hit the byline or create much he’d be ok there.
Funny you should mention that - I was thinking he reminds me a bit of Mark Patterson in that he's a lovable scrapper but not necessarily someone reliably productive. (There was a bloke near me on the Paddock who would drone "move broke down...." as soon as the ball was passed to Patterson.)

I did like 'Gizmo' at the time, seemed an honest trier, and we know how unpopular players are who don't seem to try...

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