Schu me the way to Amarillo - Summer 2025 Transfer Thread

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Who would you like to see stay next season

Baxter
6
2%
Conway
19
7%
Forrester
21
7%
Johnston
11
4%
Dacres-Cogley
20
7%
Osei-Tutu
19
7%
Dempsey
17
6%
Mendes Gomes
7
2%
Adeboyejo
3
1%
Nlundulu
0
No votes
Toal
23
8%
Forino
22
8%
Sheehan
13
5%
Thomason
20
7%
Morley
25
9%
Schon
17
6%
Collins
18
6%
Lolos
0
No votes
McAtee
12
4%
Randall
12
4%
 
Total votes: 285

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Re: Schu me the way to Amarillo - Summer 2025 Transfer Thread

Post by HMX » Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:25 pm

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I'd welcome Rankin-Costello. Good experience, very versatile.

And would add to our increasing ranks of double-barrelled surnames and three-letter signifiers. JRC, TSL, JDC, JOT, ACD, CMG... technically also CFJ (Chris Forino-Joseph) and SSA (Sonny Sharples-Ahmed), though they're both known by their first surname alone...
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Post by Bertie Wooster » Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:31 pm

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Rankin Costello would be great but I feel maybe out of our wage budget?
One or two saying that it may be Stockport that he's going to ?

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Post by Bertie Wooster » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:31 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:31 pm
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Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:15 pm
Rankin Costello would be great but I feel maybe out of our wage budget?
One or two saying that it may be Stockport that he's going to ?
Or Charlton apparently.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:38 am

Schumacher says he wants two more strikers (different to Dalby) and that he has to be patient to get the right ones in. And two more goalkeepers.

I wonder if we can assume from this that LB maybe isn’t a priority?

Signing 4 more players is a lot (5 if Ceesay is still a thing, though still have my doubts) and more on top seems unlikely to me.

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Post by Bertie Wooster » Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:54 am

Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers

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Post by The_Gun » Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:58 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
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Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers
I would guess that this means Hutchinson will be loaned out.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:00 am

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Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers
“We'll be bringing in another one who's experienced to push Teddy all the way. And then we'll be bringing in a third goalkeeper at some stage as well.”

Now, that’s a bit vague - he could mean next summer - but it’s interesting that we’ve been linked with a promising keeper whom Owain Fon Williams has worked with for the last couple of years. Could just be agent bullshit but Schuey seems to be suggesting we will expand at some point.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:00 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:54 am
Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers
The second one sounds like a specific young target maybe one Dickinson has spotted and thinks can be developed in value?

Maybe with an eye on the longer term given TSL is a loan - but it’s been said he’s first choice.

So I’m guessing one is an older cheap throwaway happy to sit on the bench the other is maybe what we see as one with lots of future potential.

Where that leave Hutchinson we will see. But maybe the idea is that we have an older backup to help him and if Hutchinson is good enough to leap above that one to be backup then so be it.

Still to me feels like spending money in an area you can always do an emergency loan for and for players who likely won’t impact your first team is a bit of a luxury.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:10 am

The_Gun wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:58 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:54 am
Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers
I would guess that this means Hutchinson will be loaned out.
I would assume nobody knows where Hutch’s ceiling is, so that would seem a good idea.

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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:17 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:00 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:54 am
Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers
The second one sounds like a specific young target maybe one Dickinson has spotted and thinks can be developed in value?

Maybe with an eye on the longer term given TSL is a loan - but it’s been said he’s first choice.

So I’m guessing one is an older cheap throwaway happy to sit on the bench the other is maybe what we see as one with lots of future potential.

Where that leave Hutchinson we will see. But maybe the idea is that we have an older backup to help him and if Hutchinson is good enough to leap above that one to be backup then so be it.

Still to me feels like spending money in an area you can always do an emergency loan for and for players who likely won’t impact your first team is a bit of a luxury.
I think we tend to assume with any signings they're always immediate first team starters. We still need "squad," and I would hope all of our signings are in competition for their starting berth.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:22 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:17 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:00 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:54 am
Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers
The second one sounds like a specific young target maybe one Dickinson has spotted and thinks can be developed in value?

Maybe with an eye on the longer term given TSL is a loan - but it’s been said he’s first choice.

So I’m guessing one is an older cheap throwaway happy to sit on the bench the other is maybe what we see as one with lots of future potential.

Where that leave Hutchinson we will see. But maybe the idea is that we have an older backup to help him and if Hutchinson is good enough to leap above that one to be backup then so be it.

Still to me feels like spending money in an area you can always do an emergency loan for and for players who likely won’t impact your first team is a bit of a luxury.
I think we tend to assume with any signings they're always immediate first team starters. We still need "squad," and I would hope all of our signings are in competition for their starting berth.
I wouldn’t assume that normally but clearly in TSL’s case he’s earmarked as the first choice.

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Post by The_Gun » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:23 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:10 am
The_Gun wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 8:58 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:54 am
Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers
I would guess that this means Hutchinson will be loaned out.
I would assume nobody knows where Hutch’s ceiling is, so that would seem a good idea.
He needs to play regularly this season, so perhaps the idea was always to send him out. I can certainly see the logic.

It'll be interesting to see what level of loan he gets - my guess would be National League.

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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:46 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:22 am
Worthy4England wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:17 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:00 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:54 am
Struggling to understand why he would want 2 more goalkeepers
The second one sounds like a specific young target maybe one Dickinson has spotted and thinks can be developed in value?

Maybe with an eye on the longer term given TSL is a loan - but it’s been said he’s first choice.

So I’m guessing one is an older cheap throwaway happy to sit on the bench the other is maybe what we see as one with lots of future potential.

Where that leave Hutchinson we will see. But maybe the idea is that we have an older backup to help him and if Hutchinson is good enough to leap above that one to be backup then so be it.

Still to me feels like spending money in an area you can always do an emergency loan for and for players who likely won’t impact your first team is a bit of a luxury.
I think we tend to assume with any signings they're always immediate first team starters. We still need "squad," and I would hope all of our signings are in competition for their starting berth.
I wouldn’t assume that normally but clearly in TSL’s case he’s earmarked as the first choice.
For sure, mate.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:40 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:22 am
I wouldn’t assume that normally but clearly in TSL’s case he’s earmarked as the first choice.
Aye, on the record now. Schumacher: "I spoke to Luke [Southwood] and told him that I’d be bringing him (Sharman-Lowe) in as number one. I had no problem with Luke being around us, competing for the shirt and trying to get Teddy out of it. And Luke just said at the age he is at, he wanted to be playing every week."

That wasn't snark - Schuey is complimentary about Southwood's attitude. Feels like the Rioch/Philliskirk conversation I quoted a couple of weeks back. And we know how well Tony P's replacement went: such a club legend that even this week they're releasing videos of him driving a car.

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I would assume nobody knows where Hutch’s ceiling is, so that would seem a good idea.
He needs to play regularly this season, so perhaps the idea was always to send him out. I can certainly see the logic.

It'll be interesting to see what level of loan he gets - my guess would be National League.
If it's not at least National League, it's a poor indication. But as with Eze, it might be better for him to go tier-5 and play every game than be a spare part in League Two (remembering that goalkeepers, unlike attacking midfielders, are rarely rotated in and out).

Goalkeepers' age doesn't matter as much as outfielders' but Hutch isn't young any more - he's 23 in six weeks. If goalkeepers counted against EFL squad limits this would be his second overage season. He's six months older than Sharman-Lowe and Xavier Simons, a year older than Max Conway, 18 months older than Charlie Warren, 3yrs older than Sam Inwood, nearly 5yrs older than the lads who've just signed their first pro terms. I wish Hutch all the very best - I hope he goes to say Rochdale, Alty or Halifax and smashes it, forcing us to a big decision ahead of his final year with us. But he really really needs a run of games, somewhere.

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Post by The_Gun » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:56 am

Indeed, if Hutch could get higher than the National League then great, but it seems quite unlikely. As we know, League Two teams are well able to get Prem loanee keepers.

My prediction is that Hutch, Inwood and Sonny Sharples will all get National League loans before the summer transfer window closes.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:59 am

The_Gun wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 10:56 am
Indeed, if Hutch could get higher than the National League then great, but it seems quite unlikely. As we know, League Two teams are well able to get Prem loanee keepers.

My prediction is that Hutch, Inwood and Sonny Sharples will all get National League loans before the summer transfer window closes.
Both reasonable suggestions, but I wonder if we might hold some younguns back for the autumn cup games. Can loan to non-league outside the window. Eze went to Halifax in late March. #20thCenturyDeadlines

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:02 pm

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:31 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:31 pm
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Wed Jul 09, 2025 2:15 pm
Rankin Costello would be great but I feel maybe out of our wage budget?
One or two saying that it may be Stockport that he's going to ?
Or Charlton apparently.
Nixon saying Charlton have offered £750k, so you imagine that's that.

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Post by irie Cee Bee » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:28 pm

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Thu Jul 10, 2025 7:38 am
Schumacher says he wants two more strikers (different to Dalby) and that he has to be patient to get the right ones in. And two more goalkeepers.
As long as the wait doesn't turn up an Etete. We won't go up without goalscorers.

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Post by The_Gun » Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:58 pm

A name that I wonder might be on our radar is Ethan Wheatley. 19 year old Stockport born striker who's currently on United's books, but presumably won't get much of a sniff there this season with their expected incomings.

Disappointing loan spell with Walsall at the back-end of last season, but scored a couple for England U19s at their Euros, has been a regular goalscorer at youth level, and at 6'2" looks robust enough to cope with the demands of men's football.

Absolutely no insight into whether he's suitable for us or not, but I should imagine that he'll at least be available.

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Post by Mar » Thu Jul 10, 2025 4:45 pm

The_Gun wrote:
Thu Jul 10, 2025 12:58 pm
A name that I wonder might be on our radar is Ethan Wheatley. 19 year old Stockport born striker who's currently on United's books, but presumably won't get much of a sniff there this season with their expected incomings.

Disappointing loan spell with Walsall at the back-end of last season, but scored a couple for England U19s at their Euros, has been a regular goalscorer at youth level, and at 6'2" looks robust enough to cope with the demands of men's football.

Absolutely no insight into whether he's suitable for us or not, but I should imagine that he'll at least be available.
Surely if he can't shine whilst at a League Two club, he'll likely struggle at a League One club. As for his goal record, it looks good in the Premier League 2 level, but that level makes Shola Shoretire look good.

Unless we've done significant research on players at United, at that level, i'd be shying away from them. Their catchment isn't as good as it used to be and the structure of the club doesn't seem overly well run, so even players coming through I wouldn't be expecting them to be as well coached as say their Arsenal/City/Chelsea counterparts.


Transfermarkt has him on 6 goals from 9 games in the PL2. Seems reasonably good, but there's other players at the same competition level that may be worth pursuing before him. Divin Mubama (16 goals), Donnell McNeilly (13), Khayon Edwards (11) and Jake Evans (11).

What isn't overly clear however is the physicality of those players, so you may be right with Wheatley (I haven't seen him play), but we'll see.

Stats can paint a strange picture. Conor Bradley got 4 goals and 9 assists in 36 PL2 appearances. Hopefully we'll sign someone of that calibre.

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