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Now careful there matey.Bruce Rioja wrote:Roger Waters - Amused to Death
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon!
How the other three had the temerity to carry on trading as Pink Floyd without Waters is absolutely beyond me!
The best of Floyd was a colaboration between Waters Glimour and often the rest as well. Waters on his own is well a bit too much singing at a hundred miles an hour with eyes closed.
The Pink Floyd albums released after Waters left we're much MUCh MMUUCCCHH better that Waters solo stuff (IMHO) and they absofookinlutely rocked on tour whereas Roger's live Wall etc etc were frankly carp
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We'll be agreeing to disagree then, matey. You rate The Division Bell over Amused to Death? Hey ho! Each to their own my friend. For me it basically boils down to the Simon and Garfunkell situation, one creates whereas the other delivers, each can't bear to see the the other carry out the part that they can't. Oh, by the way, as far as I'm concerned, the "Best of Pink Floyd' is Dark Side of the Moon. However, I'd never fall out with anyone that disagreed in that, well, it's all first class (IMO)superloop wrote:Now careful there matey.Bruce Rioja wrote:Roger Waters - Amused to Death
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon!
How the other three had the temerity to carry on trading as Pink Floyd without Waters is absolutely beyond me!
The best of Floyd was a colaboration between Waters Glimour and often the rest as well. Waters on his own is well a bit too much singing at a hundred miles an hour with eyes closed.
The Pink Floyd albums released after Waters left we're much MUCh MMUUCCCHH better that Waters solo stuff (IMHO) and they absofookinlutely rocked on tour whereas Roger's live Wall etc etc were frankly carp
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I'd say amused to death was the better of the solo stuff that roger has put out, Pro's and Radio were pretty much along the same vein as the Final Cut which may as well have been a solo album. Listenable but altogether not the best.
Regarding Dark Side i totally agree well some days i do and other i think Animals is best, then The Wall then Wish you were here, defining the best Pink Floyd is extremely difficult.
Going back to what set me off, i have no problem with Rogers solo stuff or Daves or Syd's for that matter, however to say that Momentary Lapse of reason in particular but also the Division Bell shouldn't have been put out as Pink Floyd albums when two thirds of the Main (post Syd) line-up created them is just plain wrong in my eyes.
I too however wouldn't want to fall out about any of it.
One last thing tho, the Simon and Garfunkel thing is a bad analogy IMO. In that pairing one had 90% of the song writing talent the other was a great singer. In the case of Roger and Dave which i believe you are alluding to, one had all the musical talent and some lyrical talent and the other had loads of lyrical talent and little musical talent (Rogers bass leaves a lot to be desired).
Basically i feel that the best of Pink Floyd is always the collaboration of the two, can you imagine Comfortably Numb without the guitar solo or the heartfelt lyrics?
Also would Brain Damage and Eclipse sound right without both of their voices making the harmony?
Regarding Dark Side i totally agree well some days i do and other i think Animals is best, then The Wall then Wish you were here, defining the best Pink Floyd is extremely difficult.
Going back to what set me off, i have no problem with Rogers solo stuff or Daves or Syd's for that matter, however to say that Momentary Lapse of reason in particular but also the Division Bell shouldn't have been put out as Pink Floyd albums when two thirds of the Main (post Syd) line-up created them is just plain wrong in my eyes.
I too however wouldn't want to fall out about any of it.
One last thing tho, the Simon and Garfunkel thing is a bad analogy IMO. In that pairing one had 90% of the song writing talent the other was a great singer. In the case of Roger and Dave which i believe you are alluding to, one had all the musical talent and some lyrical talent and the other had loads of lyrical talent and little musical talent (Rogers bass leaves a lot to be desired).
Basically i feel that the best of Pink Floyd is always the collaboration of the two, can you imagine Comfortably Numb without the guitar solo or the heartfelt lyrics?
Also would Brain Damage and Eclipse sound right without both of their voices making the harmony?
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It's an excellent analogy IMO. One has the ability to write/create it, the other has the ability to deliver it. For Comfortably Numb see Bridge Over Troubled Waters. For me, Roger Waters had 90% of the song writing talent, Dave Gilmour's delivery of it was/is brilliant, but Gilmour couldn't have written it and Waters couldn't have delivered it. Personally, I've never really been able to get into quite a lot of the Syd Barrett era stuff, just a personal thing though I suppose.superloop wrote:One last thing tho, the Simon and Garfunkel thing is a bad analogy IMO. In that pairing one had 90% of the song writing talent the other was a great singer............ can you imagine Comfortably Numb without the guitar solo or the heartfelt lyrics?
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