The NExt England Captain

plodder · Post by **plodder** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:37 am

I know has been done but in light of recent performances.............

Crouch > Davies · Post by **Crouch > Davies** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:21 am

He had a poor World Cup but I'd give it to Gerrard. The more responsibility he has, the better he performs. Appointing him captain might see us get the best out of him for England. I also think he's a better bet than Terry. As good a player as he is, he isn't as inspirational as Gerrard. Gerrard is likely to turn a game on its head, Terry isn't.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:13 am

One of the best captains England had was Bobby Moore. He directed from the back and watched the whole picture. A defender can do this far better than anyone going forward. Beckenbaur was another example of this, Hiero yet another. That's why my vote is for Terry. He's a good player, committed to the cause and the players respect him. Beckham was an icon captain and not a commanding one. A captain commands from the bridge and gives the orders. You can't do this whilst attacking. Gerard needs to be forward to get the best out of him. He defends well enough (as I've said before) but is at his best when given more freedom up the park. Terry for me.

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:49 am

Crouch > Davies wrote:He had a poor World Cup but I'd give it to Gerrard. The more responsibility he has, the better he performs. Appointing him captain might see us get the best out of him for England. I also think he's a better bet than Terry. As good a player as he is, he isn't as inspirational as Gerrard. Gerrard is likely to turn a game on its head, Terry isn't.

No!

While Gerrard is totally outstanding for Liverpool he can't seem to bring that to his international game. Was he even in Germany for the world cup this year?

I've a feeling you're just seeing this through your Anfield tinted glasses here. I'm not so sure that Gerrard should even be in the England squad (at least if Lampard is in there too) never mind as it's captain.

John Terry gets my vote.

Frankie Wanderer · Post by **Frankie Wanderer** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:49 pm

Terry 4 now - but watch out for Nolan coming soon to an England squad and then -Wahey

Dr Hotdog · Post by **Dr Hotdog** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:26 pm

CrazyHorse wrote: While Gerrard is totally outstanding for Liverpool he can't seem to bring that to his international game. Was he even in Germany for the world cup this year?

i'm pretty sure he scored two goals for England, and i'm also pretty sure that means he scored more than any other English man in Germany throughout the month of June in competetive matches.

but John Terry gets my vote for Captain.

nice little dig though, every opportunity eh?

warthog · Post by **warthog** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:36 pm

Terry for me. Lampard and Ferdinand would be bench warmers.

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:44 pm

Dr Hotdog wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote: While Gerrard is totally outstanding for Liverpool he can't seem to bring that to his international game. Was he even in Germany for the world cup this year?
i'm pretty sure he scored two goals for England, and i'm also pretty sure that means he scored more than any other English man in Germany throughout the month of June in competetive matches.

but John Terry gets my vote for Captain.

nice little dig though, every opportunity eh?

Who appointed you into the 'site harmony' police?

I wasn't having a dig at anyone, I was sarcastically pointing out that Gerrard is a different player in an England shirt and that he was neither use nor ornament throughout the world cup (in spite of the goals), particularly in regards him being the next captain, which is after all what the thread is about.

But I think you knew that already. I suppose you're just using it as an opportunity to have a dig, eh?

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:58 pm

Terry for me - captaincy is not about skill, flair or goal scoring - it's about leadership, dedication and leading by example. It seems to me that Terry brings 100% every time even if not on form, and that he is generally respected.

Crouch > Davies · Post by **Crouch > Davies** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:35 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:I've a feeling you're just seeing this through your Anfield tinted glasses here.

Not at all, seeing as I can't stand the man.

plodder · Post by **plodder** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:15 pm

Terry wins my vote, he would bleed for the cause. Suprisingly the back four at the WC were effective.

H. Pedersen · Post by **H. Pedersen** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:52 pm

Terry. He is more likely than the rest to start regularly. Gerrard and Lampard are both too poor too often. They would be like Beckham: making him captain made him a lock to start even when his form was poor.

fanz · Post by **fanz** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:09 pm

It has to be Terry for me, Gerrard is a great club player nothing more IMO.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:50 pm

Crouch > Davies wrote:He had a poor World Cup but I'd give it to Gerrard. The more responsibility he has, the better he performs. Appointing him captain might see us get the best out of him for England.

Yep - I agree with this and I've made the same case to my mates.

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:13 am

warthog wrote:Terry for me. Lampard and Ferdinand would be bench warmers.

Warty the voice of reason.

americantrotter · Post by **americantrotter** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:14 am

Another point, I thought that Gerrard was hampered by tactics though i want Terry as captain. I love the scousers they bleed for their team.

Gnome · Post by **Gnome** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:55 pm

Terry.

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:44 am

Interestingly, a poll by Englandfans and the BBC shows Terry nudging ahead of Gerrard. But will McClaren do the right thing?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 778685.stm
I like how Beckham got one vote too. From his Dad I guess.

We find out tomorrow.

Gertie · Post by **Gertie** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:46 am

Oooh sorry about that Crazy....

I'm surpised that Becks's dad didn't vote for him as well ???

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:56 am

Gertie wrote:Oooh sorry about that Crazy....

I'm surpised that Becks's dad didn't vote for him as well ???

That Victoria Beckham will scratch your eyes out if she ever gets hold of you. Mind, I reckon you could take her....