Ryder Cup

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Great effort all round.Tomorrow, the singles, is the critical time. Just four and a half points needed, but no morale boosting team-mate along to share the load.

Surely only four points requred, TD?

To retain the cup, yes. But the outright win is obviously the goal.

[hisroyalgingerness]

its all set up for Clarkey to hole the winning putt, its written

[Montreal Wanderer]

How bloody typical. NBC stopped broadcasting the Ryder Cup after Clarke won (and they had lost) and went to NFL pregame football. TSN (our sports channel) was piggybacking on the NBC feed and is now carrying the bloody NBC show. So I can't watch the rest of the matches.

[cowdrill]

we won


w00t!

[hisroyalgingerness]

great stuff, absolutely love stuffing the yanks. nice to see the spirit returning to competition as well, absolutely no nastiness throughout

[cowdrill]

i hear some dude got his knackers out on the 18th?



well i never...

[Soldier_Of_The_White_Army]

great stuff, absolutely love stuffing the yanks. nice to see the spirit returning to competition as well, absolutely no nastiness throughout

Ditto, I watched the whole thing from beginning to end, and actually had a lump in my throat when Darren Clark won his final hole on the 16th.

Also laughed my head off at the look on the caddies face when he had to turn round and say "erm Tiger, you know your favorite 9 iron"

[communistworkethic]

now who was it that was saying this would be Tiger's cup and that Westwood was a bad pick? hmmmmm.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

now who was it that was saying this would be Tiger's cup and that Westwood was a bad pick? hmmmmm.

I'll hold my hands up and say I made a terrible call.

Westwood has been nothing short of superb. I didn't fancy Clarke, Monty, Westwood, McGinley or Harrington to show any great form this time round, but I couldn't have been more wrong.

Tiger did take 3 points from the 5, but he struggled for them and did not show the inspirational form that I expected and that the USA desperately needed.

Will it be the next one that is one too many for the players I have listed above?

[hisroyalgingerness]

fais dos it should have been tigers cup, but he can't win it on his own - even though he only managed 3 out of 5. The USA just didn't have any strong pairings and it seemed you could put any of the Europe team together with any of them. We didn't get to see the two Swedes together which would have been fantastic

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Mickelson was the biggest waste of space at this Ryder Cup - just half a point from 5.

It's true that Tiger can't win it on his own, but if had been dominant early on, that would have had a significant impact on the mood in both camps. He never looked like putting in the 'main man' performance that America needed, even if his own tally ended up being respectable.

[Soldier_Of_The_White_Army]

Mickelson was the biggest waste of space at this Ryder Cup - just half a point from 5.

It's true that Tiger can't win it on his own, but if had been dominant early on, that would have had a significant impact on the mood in both camps. He never looked like putting in the 'main man' performance that America needed, even if his own tally ended up being respectable.

I'm not sure I would agree with that, as a profesional golfer if you cant be 'up for' and mentaly prepared for the Ryder Cup you shouldn't be there!!

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Mickelson was the biggest waste of space at this Ryder Cup - just half a point from 5.

It's true that Tiger can't win it on his own, but if had been dominant early on, that would have had a significant impact on the mood in both camps. He never looked like putting in the 'main man' performance that America needed, even if his own tally ended up being respectable.

I'm not sure I would agree with that, as a profesional golfer if you cant be 'up for' and mentaly prepared for the Ryder Cup you shouldn't be there!!

I'm not really sure what you're getting at. I'd say both teams were up for it and mentally prepared. But momentum and confidence are big factors in sport and had Tiger looked unbeatable right from the off, it would have bouyed the Americans, all of them, and given the Europeans a knock.

[Bruce Rioja]

We didn't get to see the two Swedes together which would have been fantastic

Has this morphed into a 'Jonny Vaughn' thread?

I'll tell you what, how must the boy Faldo be feeling now? Do any of you think that a tiny part of him might not have wanted us to do quite so well this time out?

[Soldier_Of_The_White_Army]

Mickelson was the biggest waste of space at this Ryder Cup - just half a point from 5.

It's true that Tiger can't win it on his own, but if had been dominant early on, that would have had a significant impact on the mood in both camps. He never looked like putting in the 'main man' performance that America needed, even if his own tally ended up being respectable.

I'm not sure I would agree with that, as a profesional golfer if you cant be 'up for' and mentaly prepared for the Ryder Cup you shouldn't be there!!

I'm not really sure what you're getting at. I'd say both teams were up for it and mentally prepared. But momentum and confidence are big factors in sport and had Tiger looked unbeatable right from the off, it would have bouyed the Americans, all of them, and given the Europeans a knock.

Why? The most it would have cost Europe was three points. If four of the Americans were looking unbeatable then fine, but not one man, no matter who he is.

[communistworkethic]

Tiger did take 3 points from the 5

I'd suggest Furyk won 2 of those for him.

[communistworkethic]

I'll tell you what, how must the boy Faldo be feeling now? Do any of you think that a tiny part of him might not have wanted us to do quite so well this time out?

fair point, anything less than a 9point win and he's failed.

Not sure he's the right choice as captain anyway, if his punditry showed anything this weekend it's that he has the personality of a dish cloth

[TANGODANCER]

Have kept away from all news today so I could watch it all "live" (taped).

No negatives at all from me . Just proves what a fascinating game golf is. Some of the puts were so far away they needed tee pegs, yet they went in; some were begging to jump in the hole.....and missed. Every member of the European side played really well, the Yanks just never give up, but even the mercurial J.J.Henry couldn't turn it today. David Howell, Monty, Clarke, anyone could have done it, Stenson did. A magical day all round on an awesome course. The American big guns gave it their best but it wasn't to be for them.

Since Europe took over from Britain as Ryder Cup candidates (we were after, a small island playing a huge continent) we have forged an amazing spirit of togetherness and levelled the playing field in a big way. Heroes all, as far as I'm concerned and some amazing golf. Tight fairway, more water than Regents Park and heavily guarded greens, yet the standard of golf was awesome. Some of the iron shots from distance were truly fantastic.

Shot of the tournament: Montgomery overshot the green, hit the rocks two feet from the pond and bounced backwards onto the green. Must have been a leprechaun in there somewhere.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Tiger did take 3 points from the 5

I'd suggest Furyk won 2 of those for him.

I'm not sure that's fair. Tiger made some crucial birdies. And the nature of the pairing means that Furyk playing to be the steady one.

You can't have it both ways anyway - when he loses with another player, it's his fault, when he wins, it was his partner.

[thebish]

what a great gesture from Paul McGinlay on the 18th to halve the hole... great to see that kind of spirit in sport..