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Post by FaninOz » Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:13 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Pride restored :grin:

Tonight is crucial though, attack attack attack!
Wickets are more important to England tomorrow than giving runs away so an attacking field for most of the day is paramount if we are going to win this game. Also make them follow onif they don't make the 352 needed.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:31 pm

Big dose of captaincy "wiles" required now. Time for Fred's baptism of fire in his bowling choices. Just hope leaving Panesar out wasn't a wrong choice. Motivation and hanging on to that little urn are what it's about. Come on the lads!
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Post by cowdrill » Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:54 pm

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Post by Enzo Gambaro » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:27 pm

Going to be a struggle to take 20 wickets on that pitch but there's a real spirit about the England team again. For the first time since 2005, they looked aggressive and threatening. The final few batting overs from Giles and Freddie were a joy to watch as we romped to the 550 right on schedule. Seeing Warne, Lee and McGrath all go for over 100 runs was especially sweet.

Still, got to be concerned how much faith the England camp really have in Harmison when they're not giving him the new ball though.
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Post by cowdrill » Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:34 pm

im no expert on these matters - but why didnt we declare on 600+ (provided we made it to that score) ?

especially as our bowlers have REALLY struggled so far
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Post by Daxter » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:00 pm

Im gonna try and tough it out and watch a bit tonight. COME ON ENGLAND!!!

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Post by Dujon » Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:53 pm

Nice to see Pietersen and Collingwood carry on from day one. In view of the fact that the pitch was doing little to help the bowlers I thought England took a bit too long to get their runs. Mind you, Warne virtually bowling wides down the leg side didn't help much - no doubt a deliberate (and successful) ploy. By the same token it meant less risks were taken and a 200+ and a 150+ performance are not to be sneezed at. A pretty good partnership. It's a pity Warne finally snagged a wicket, though McGrath finished with his worst bowling figures ever for a test match. You can't have everything I suppose.

Late in the day swing from the quicks began to become evident (in particular, Lee). The only ones I noticed were all in-swingers to the right-handed batsman - I don't recall any going the other way. With a bit of luck it will help the England bowlers during day three. I do hope that Flintoff will bowl himself a little more than he did in the first test as he is undoubtedly the key to unlocking the Australian top order.

Looking at the weather map, I don't think there's any chance of rain today and there's a good chance that the windiness of yesterday will subside to little more than a light breeze - unless there is some local effect of which I am ignorant.

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Post by cowdrill » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:13 pm

urm dumb question but did u get your name from Jeff Dujon?!


and if so, why?
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Post by thebish » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:35 pm

cowdrill wrote:urm dumb question but did u get your name from Jeff Dujon?!


and if so, why?
see page one of this thread - where I asked the very same question...

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Post by cowdrill » Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:38 pm

ohhhhhh




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Post by chris » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:54 am

Australia 40-2. Great early wicket.
If we can get them all out in one day, we should be able to win this.

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Post by cowdrill » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:49 am

78-3


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Post by chris » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:27 am

Australia finish on 312-5.

Reasonable position for England, but I think we may struggle to win without the follow on, which I doubt we will now get. If we lose this, we go 2-0 down and I don't think we can recover from that. England can't risk an early declaration in the second innings, so if we can't get the follow on, I think it will be a draw . With Warne still to bat, the Aussies can still score a lot more.

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Post by Dr.Karl » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:51 pm

Gilo in for Panesar because of his superior fielding and batting, then goes on to drop Ponting on 35? Oh the irony....
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Post by Dujon » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:39 pm

Yes, Dr, if I were Giles I'd have had a restless night.

A good recovery by Australia. England had better get Gilchrist early this morning. He's not been batting all that well of late but if he gets his eye in he could pile on a few in a very short space of time.

I can't see a follow on decision having to be made. There's too much in Australia's tail to consider it - though stranger things have happened in this game I suppose. It is now looking more and more like a draw. Even if Australia only scores another hundred runs it leaves England in the awkward position of trying to play out a draw or making a declaration in time to give themselves a chance to bowl out Australia again. The pitch still seems to be playing well for the batsmen so I can't see a victory for the visitors at this juncture. That's a shame as they really need to get on the result card early in the series.

The WACA is the next ground to utilised and it has been placid compared with years of yore. In the domestic competition teams have been averaging just short of 400 runs per innings. Should the pitch be anything like those then not to take Monty into the starting line-up would be a sin as the quicks have laboured long and hard for their wickets while the seamers and spinners have had far better return for their efforts.

I'd better not get ahead of myself; we're not finished with Adelaide yet and anything could happen with a full two days to go. This match has been a decent sort of tussle and today should be no different.

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Post by Batman » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:25 pm

Highlights on BBC2 in 15mins.

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Post by Daxter » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:30 pm

Its soo odd seeing cricket highlights on the BBC. They should be giving it primetime viewing on BBC 1 not stuffing it away late on BBC 2.

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Post by Batman » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:33 pm

They'd rather piss around with bloody Ballroom dancing than the national sport.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:44 pm

Daxter and Batty raise good points. Isn't it part of Auntie's charter (or whatever) that it gives prime/live coverage of the 'Crown Jewel' sporting events? If The Ashes doesn't fall under that particular remit then what on earth does? :conf:
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Post by cowdrill » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:53 pm

nope



sky bought the ashes

i think the ashes stopped being a 'crown jewel' event due to us getting beat every time
and people losing interest in it


the last series was the last on terrestrial tv
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