Batman - the victim of internet theft

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:25 am

Zulus! Thousand of 'em! wrote:I must admit I was impressed that Batty had so much in his account, and so far from pay day!

overdraft, surely?

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:20 pm

Thanks, commie - I get many of those emails (more these days than for foreigners killed in Nigeria leaving millions or winning lotteries). There is a hyperlink that looks like the bank's address but if you put your cursor over it you'll see that it aliases to another website with the bank extension. I have never known anyone being fooled by this or those other scams before - sorry, Batty.

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:44 pm

I get loads of those emails usually asking for paypal log in etc, I usually answer them with "feck off"

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:46 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:Thanks, commie - I get many of those emails (more these days than for foreigners killed in Nigeria leaving millions or winning lotteries). There is a hyperlink that looks like the bank's address but if you put your cursor over it you'll see that it aliases to another website with the bank extension. I have never known anyone being fooled by this or those other scams before - sorry, Batty.

a lot of people do fall for them, trust me, lots.

50sQuiff · Post by **50sQuiff** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:16 pm

Other than the way Commie has outlined, the other way to fall victim to this sort of theft is run some dodgy software (often disguised as something innocent), which will surreptitiously install a 'trojan horse' on your computer. Given the right (and unfortunate) conditions this can enable a hacker to do anything from browse the contents of your hard drive or capture your keystrokes.

Not too recently I had my ebay account broken into (several fraudulent auctions were submitted in my name). I found a trojan running on my computer that had not been detected by AVG, the software I was previously using. I suspect I may have caught it from some dodgy Chinese P2P TV software. Or perhaps I was caught out entering my password on a computer in an internet cafe abroad and it was captured. Or perhaps a forum or website I joined was compromised in some way.

Fortunately I was able to use a secure computer at work to immediately change all my passwords without any further damage being done. I was extremely concerned because I used that very same password for everything else, including my email. There lessons are obvious: use different passwords for important things, use security software, never download dodgy software and be careful when using internet cafes abroad.

I was very lucky and this episode made me appreciate just how important security is to my work and other business. As a result I no longer run Windows, which is a scandalously and inherently vulnerable operating system. Ditching Windows is the only way to be truly secure.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:28 pm

My personal favourite which catches the er 'unaware' is advanced fee fraud.

You're selling you car on say Ebay for £2,000 . Someone agrees to buy it and then sends you a cheque for £5,000, asking for you to send a cheque back to them or to a third party for the £3k. You agree, take the cheque, wait til he money appears in your account 3days later hand over the car and then send of £3k. A few days later the cheque bounces. You've lost your car and £3k.

Now why would anyone think it was resonable to accept a cheque for more than the amount and give change? The whole point of cheques is being able to transfer specific amounts to specific payees. Why wouldn't this individual right their own cheque to a third party? Why would they want to write a check for more than they need then get one back off you which they'd have to wait to clear? HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!

Fat Stelios · Post by **Fat Stelios** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:42 pm

Cheers for that Commie. I will be on the lookout for the dirty little buggers from now on!

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:21 pm

What a grand little support group this is.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:27 pm

Well, to start with HRG I did wonder at your lack of sympathy!! Hoewver I shall still be on the piss with thee tomorrow.

I've never clicked on a bank/ebay/paypal email in my life, so Christ knows how the f-ckers have got into my account.

Monty = I assumed Nigerians cos at work I have to deal with the thieving f-ckers on a daily basis.

Commie - thanks for that, I panicked as that money was earmarked for something special

..........and to everyone else, the Christmas do was fantastic, though Parma Violet vodka is evil.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:29 pm

http://www.419eater.com/html/letters.htm

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:34 pm

Would firefox be more secure than IE?

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:35 pm

blurred wrote:
Zulus! Thousand of 'em! wrote:I must admit I was impressed that Batty had so much in his account, and so far from pay day!
overdraft, surely?

no mate

I usually transfer all my money online to an account with better interest, just on this occasion I forgot. Usually abou 50 quid in there!

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 6:40 pm

Batman wrote:
blurred wrote:
Zulus! Thousand of 'em! wrote:I must admit I was impressed that Batty had so much in his account, and so far from pay day!
overdraft, surely?
no mate

I usually transfer all my money online to an account with better interest, just on this occasion I forgot. Usually abou 50 quid in there!

In which case I applaud the amount of money in the account - I've got a similar amount overdrawn I reckon

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:37 pm

Batman wrote:Would firefox be more secure than IE?

not really. It's a question of your internet security software and a lot of awareness on your part.

It doesn't matter how good your software is if you are stupid.

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:38 pm

communistworkethic wrote:
Batman wrote:Would firefox be more secure than IE?
not really. It's a question of your internet security software and a lot of awareness on your part.

It doesn't matter how good your software is if you are stupid.

I'd contend that Firefox is inherently safer than IE, although would agree with the 'stupidity' comment

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:38 pm

In the first instance, I am Norton-ed up to the max, nowt should get through.........

in the second case, I suppose it's a bit late now eh.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:33 pm

Raven wrote:I get loads of those emails usually asking for paypal log in etc, I usually answer them with "feck off"

Raven, the reason you get loads is because you answer them. Their auto system then note your address as real ... and responsive. So they come back in bucketloads.

Tempting as that is all advice is to tag them as spam & bin them.

Gertie · Post by **Gertie** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:14 am

It's not often you find you have lots in common with Batman.

But today I'm a victim of crime

Some Romanian thief has got their grubby mitts on my money. I haven't had my cards lost or stolen so they've cloned the account and made loads of tiny transactions over the weekend to almost £500 in Romania - I don't know why my card decided to go shopping over there. Stopped all my accounts just in case and having new cards and PINs issued. Just painful as I go on my hols in 10 days and have about £5 about my person at the moment!!!

This may stop be sending a dozen roses to Jussi this morning.

Couldn't pay for my meal in the pub last night due to no card available and doing that annoying girl thing of not carrying any cash.... but fortunately, the landlord paid for me and I have to drop the cash off tonight after the game - otherwise I'm doing his washing up for the next week.

Got my crime number from the police this morning, and just feel very grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:16 am

I feel sorry for you, my problem ocurred just before Crimbo and left the whole holiday season up in the air.

The bank were OK, they sorted out my problem within a fortnight and all is now well in the garden.

I hope your theft is sorted out urgento.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:15 pm

Anyone ever had this one?

The National Lottery
P O Box 1010
Liverpool, L70 1N
UNITED KINGDOM
(Customer Services)
Ref: UK/9420X2/68
Batch: 074/06/ZY369

THIRD AND FINAL WINNING NOTIFICATION:
Dear Lucky Winner,
RE: BONUS LOTTERY PROMOTION PRIZE AWARDS WINNING NOTIFICATION
It has come to our notice that your prize is still unclaimes after two winning notification emails sent to you. This is the third and final notice. We are pleased to notify you the draw (#1240) of the UK NATIONAL LOTTERY, Online Sweepstakes International Lottery Program held on Saturday, 10th November 2007. Participants were selected through a computer ballot system drawn from a pool of over 25,000 names drawn from Europe, America, Asia, Australia, New Zealand, Middle-East, parts of Africa, and North & South America as part of our international promotions programme conducted annually to encourage prospective overseas entries. We hope with part of your prize awards, you will take part in our subsequent lottery jackpots.
The result of our computer draw (#1240) selected your name and email address attached to e-ticket number: 56475600545 188 with Serial number 5627635368/07 drew the lucky numbers: 05 11 13 18 25 35 (bonus no.07), which subsequently won you the lottery in the 1st category i.e. match 6. You have therefore been approved to claim a total sum of £2,053,719 (Two Million, fifty-three thousand, seven hundred and nineteen Pounds Sterling) in cheque credited to file KTU/9023118308/07. This is from a total cash prize of £4,107,438 shared amongst two lucky winners of whom you are one.
You can go through our online web result checker

http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/playe ... &drawSeq=1

CLAIM AND PAYMENT OF PRIZE

Please note that your lucky winning number falls within our European booklet representative office in Europe as indicated in your play coupon. In view of this, your winning would be released to you by any of our payment offices in London. Please be informed that claims not processed within the stipulated period may be forfeited to the pool without further notice.Our European agent will immediately commence the process to facilitate the release of your funds as soon as you contact him. You may wish to establish contact via e-mail with the particulars presented below sending the batch and reference numbers and these information below for quick verifications and release of funds. between the hours of 8.00am - 7.30pm on Monday through Sunday
HOW TO CLAIM YOUR PRIZE
Simply contact your fiducial/processing agent by email;

Name: Mr Brian Hollis
Email: [email protected]
You are therefore advised to send the following information to the claims department to facilitate the verification on your winning.
1. Full names..............
2. Age....................
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Congratulations!! once again.
Yours in service,
Mrs Carol Smith.
(Public Relations Officer)

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