Minute Silence Before Ipswich game

Lennon · Post by **Lennon** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:54 am

communistworkethic wrote:If they are "crack whores" does that mean they are really good at it? Y'know like the A-Team where a "crack commando unit"?

Usually yes, because they get more practice as they need the cash more than normal whores.

warthog · Post by **warthog** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:03 pm

communistworkethic wrote:If they are "crack whores" does that mean they are really good at it? Y'know like the A-Team where a "crack commando unit"?

Possibly. They are referred to as the Aids Team.

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:25 pm

I don't see what relevance them being whores has to anything, the minutes silence isn't because of the loss of five of Ipswich's finest. It's because 5 people have been murdered. If they were all bus drivers it would have been the same.

Disagreeing with a minutes silence because they are handed out willy nilly is fair enough. Disagreeing with it because the people involved are prostitutes and probably deserved it anyway, is alittle harsh.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:29 pm

Tombwfc wrote:I don't see what relevance them being whores has to anything, the minutes silence isn't because of the loss of five of Ipswich's finest. It's because 5 people have been murdered. If they were all bus drivers it would have been the same.

Disagreeing with a minutes silence because they are handed out willy nilly is fair enough. Disagreeing with it because the people involved are prostitutes and probably deserved it anyway, is alittle harsh.

Yep, exactly.

chester white · Post by **chester white** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:28 pm

Firmly agree with two above posts.

I disagree with the minute silence on the grounds that how often they are distributed, especially when BWFC were denied the right to hold a minute silence for Dave Higson alledgedly, but nothing to do with the fact they were' crack heads' or anything else.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:15 am

I was thinking yesterday as I was listening to the utterly abhorrent David Sheepshanks, telling radio listeners how Ipswich Town as a club feel devastated by the goings on, on the grounds that Portman Road lies within the red light district

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To hold a minutes silence yesterday is a little hasty, no? See, this is an on-going case. What if the body of another victim is found in this coming week? Do they hold another minutes silence at their next home game? The perpetrator is clearly a serial killer and is highly likely to strike again. What if he moves up to, say Norwich? Is the onus then on Norwich City to start holding minutes silences should they start finding bodies by the Wensum?

I've a feeling that this could come back to haunt Ipswich Town (no pun intended whatsoever).

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:34 pm

I tend to agree with Bruce -it is perhaps too early to start "minutes of silence" in this case since it is an ongoing matter. More normal is to remember victims after a mass killer is caught or otherwise eliminated.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:21 pm

I agree with what Bruce and Monty have said, and with some of the general sentiments in opposition to silent minutes.

But this 'they brought it on themselves' nonsense that I have also heard elsewhere can only be based on ignorance. Let me just give you one example - I spoke yesterday to somebody involved in working with female prisoners so that they can find a place in society upon their release. She was working at Buckley Hall in Rochdale which had been a women's prison for four years before last year, and during that time she worked with the girl who is the latest body to be found in Ipswich. To cut a long story short, this girl's first exposure to heroin was when some bastard forcibly injected her with it and controlled her life for his own gain and got her hooked - this is a far more widespread practice with women who have fallen on hard times than you might imagine.

It's appalling, but this is the so-called 'civilised' country that we live in (and I'm not even trying to make a partisan political point here). Very few people who know what they are talking about would be too quick to condemn the 'crack whores'. And I personally don't have much against a shocked community having a few moments of quiet group contemplation, even if a sizeable proportion of those there are thinking about half-time pies and possible formations.

chester white · Post by **chester white** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:31 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:21 pm

I agree with what Bruce and Monty have said, and with some of the general sentiments in opposition to silent minutes.

But this 'they brought it on themselves' nonsense that I have also heard elsewhere can only be based on ignorance. Let me just give you one example - I spoke yesterday to somebody involved in working with female prisoners so that they can find a place in society upon their release. She was working at Buckley Hall in Rochdale which had been a women's prison for four years before last year, and during that time she worked with the girl who is the latest body to be found in Ipswich. To cut a long story short, this girl's first exposure to heroin was when some bastard forcibly injected her with it and controlled her life for his own gain and got her hooked - this is a far more widespread practice with women who have fallen on hard times than you might imagine.

It's appalling, but this is the so-called 'civilised' country that we live in (and I'm not even trying to make a partisan political point here). Very few people who know what they are talking about would be too quick to condemn the 'crack whores'. And I personally don't have much against a shocked community having a few moments of quiet group contemplation, even if a sizeable proportion of those there are thinking about half-time pies and possible formations.

Spot on my friend, spot on!

Dujon · Post by **Dujon** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:01 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote: . . . killer is caught or otherwise eliminated.

What a lovely thought, Monty. While I am against capital punishment per se, the idea that this piece of vermin could be erased during a legitimate police operation brought a smile to my face.

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:15 pm

Dujon wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote: . . . killer is caught or otherwise eliminated.
What a lovely thought, Monty. While I am against capital punishment per se, the idea that this piece of vermin could be erased during a legitimate police operation brought a smile to my face.

Well, that was on my mind but also the fact that the last two random killers we have had here committed suicide before they were arrested. I too am opposed to capital punishment per se but...

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:22 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6189409.stm

Theyve arrested some fella.

keveh · Post by **keveh** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:25 pm

this is the guys myspace (supposidly)

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... D=85784962

Whookam · Post by **Whookam** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:36 pm

keveh wrote:this is the guys myspace (supposidly)

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... D=85784962

Dammit! I was going to post that! Twice in one day, I'm losing it

The picture on his profile is the one the BBC are using.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:42 pm

hang on... he calls himself "The Bishop"

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:45 pm

thebish wrote:hang on... he calls himself "The Bishop"

....and that's why I hate to defend you!

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:50 pm

superjohnmcginlay wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6189409.stm

Theyve arrested some fella.

Bizarre - he was interviewed by the Beeb a week ago and claimed to know most of the girls.

keveh · Post by **keveh** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:54 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6189409.stm

Theyve arrested some fella.
Bizarre - he was interviewed by the Beeb a week ago and claimed to know most of the girls.

http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/news ... _page.html

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:54 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6189409.stm

Theyve arrested some fella.
Bizarre - he was interviewed by the Beeb a week ago and claimed to know most of the girls.

Very odd indeed. I'd arrest him on the strength of that bit of his interview alone...

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:04 pm

keveh wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6189409.stm

Theyve arrested some fella.
Bizarre - he was interviewed by the Beeb a week ago and claimed to know most of the girls.
http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/news ... _page.html

That's even weirder

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