The end of 'Playing for a Point' ???

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

sam would be fecked

be tempted to scrap 0-0s from an entertainment perspective

clubs would basically have to score to take anything from a game and at least supporters would see some sort of action

Or, score within the first 5 minutes then revert back to the 'play for a draw' style only with a goal in the bag.

I say leave the game alone. After all this is only being talked about because Americans find it so difficult to understand that a sport can be played without there being a definite winner.

Hang on, I know that some Americans well deserve ridicule (whereas others are perfectly fine) but is there any link at all between them and this Football League brain-spaz? This is merely the League trying to create artificial excitement to boost attendances. I'd say they'd be better off discouraging their members from charging punters through the arse.

[americantrotter]

I would consider it an American thing to avoid draws. Even if it wasnt an American involved it is definitely their crap kind of thinking. There are no draws in any major sport over here.

[warthog]

The idea's not popular.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6453311.stm

That it comes from a tosser like Brian Mawhinney is no surprise.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Perfectly, brilliantly, marvellously counter-intuitive to the main idea - if there is one; I'da thunk it was to stop defensive football. So now you can sit back for a 0-0 and get two points. As Commie says, even thicker arse-gravy.

[communistworkethic]

I've got a better idea, 1pt each for a draw and and extra point to the team with the most UK born players.

[CrazyHorse]

I've got a better idea, 1pt each for a draw and and extra point to the team with the most UK born players.

Like it, like it a lot!
Plus, how about 10 bonus points for having a British manager? And another bonus five points for not having the words "West" or "Ham" in the team name?

[Gravedigger]

I've got a better idea, 1pt each for a draw and and extra point to the team with the most UK born players.

Like it, like it a lot!
Plus, how about 10 bonus points for having a British manager? And another bonus five points for not having the words "West" or "Ham" in the team name?

Tottenham

[Gravedigger]

I've got a better idea, 1pt each for a draw and and extra point to the team with the most UK born players.

Like it, like it a lot!
Plus, how about 10 bonus points for having a British manager? And another bonus five points for not having the words "West" or "Ham" in the team name?

Tottenham

Course we could also implement the away goals rule. Fat Mawhiniotsit is only trying to get his name in the papers. That guy Platini and getting English, Spanish and Italian clubs to play each other in a league of sorts before gaining entry to the Champs League is even more scary.

[Dr.Karl]

I've always wondered why there isn't an incentive for more attacking away performances but this idea is bizarre as playing for a 0-0 could get you two points. A better idea would be to offer 4 points for an away win, while a home win is 3 points and a draw is 1 point each.

That way, the away team is more likely to attack and secondly it will reward an away win which is normally harder than a home win. A home win against Wigan isn't the same as an away win at Old Trafford in terms of difficulty.

[bobo the clown]

Perhaps we should consider not bothering playing, just take five paenalties each and the winner, er....wins. We don't want the lads suffering fatigue or even injuries from all that extra time now, do we?

In fact, feck-it.

Send your keeper down to the opposition ground & have their keeper sent to the Reebok & just take the penalties.

Think of the CO2 emmissions saved !

[NumptyNumbNuts]

Toss-up for it...

[Soldier_Of_The_White_Army]

Toss-up for it...

They would still whinge that we are always hoofing the coin to high

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I've always wondered why there isn't an incentive for more attacking away performances but this idea is bizarre as playing for a 0-0 could get you two points. A better idea would be to offer 4 points for an away win, while a home win is 3 points and a draw is 1 point each.

That way, the away team is more likely to attack and secondly it will reward an away win which is normally harder than a home win. A home win against Wigan isn't the same as an away win at Old Trafford in terms of difficulty.

The good doctor talks sense. Although by the same token a win at Watford ain't the same as beating the rags at home.

Problem with the 4pts/3pts thing is that (as Monty alludes to in hockey) it makes it harder to work out who's got how many points left to grab. Personally I prefer league tables with the simpler totals rather than the sprawling statfests with separate home and away details. But that's a minor bugbear in the scheme o'things.

[communistworkethic]

why not grade the points according to the opposition's final league placing last season. So If you beat Chelsea, you'd get 20 points but just the 1 for the bottom placed team. Genius!

[hisroyalgingerness]

Toss-up for it...

like 4 out of 5 cricket games

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Surely the whole idea is backwards - award 0 points for a draw and you'll see attacking football...

[Bench]

sam would be fecked

be tempted to scrap 0-0s from an entertainment perspective

clubs would basically have to score to take anything from a game and at least supporters would see some sort of action

Or quite the opposite - side's'd be happy to sit on a 0-0 in the knowledge that all they would need is 5 decent penalty takers to get 3 points. If anything it could make football even duller.

Absolute arse-gravy of the highest order. Whoever's pushing this should be shot.

I heard that if you win in this way you get 2 points, the "loser" still gets the point for the draw.

which is even bigger arse-gravy.

In hockey, which now has no draws, you get two points for a win and one for an overtime or shoot-out loss. Except the championship series where they play overtime until there is a 'sudden death' winner. The system makes it quite hard to calculate what you need to do to make the playoffs, etc. although I personally enjoy the shootouts. This scoring system is fairly new to make hockey more exciting after the one-year lockout. They are thinking of three points for a win in regulation time a la football.

Is it just me? When Monty starts a post with In hockey I have this desire to

Only kiddin!

The whole idea is complete arse-gravy (great word btw!). The game has enough problems as it is (lack of goal-line technology, the poor quality of officials, the shifting stances of the off-side rule) - why do they want to change one of the absolute cores of the 'beautiful game'?

Why not just declare that teams are no longer to play with defenders, thereby increasing the quality of attacking play (end-to-end stuff) and increasing goal returns. Surely that would be better?

[americantrotter]

Better yet they could give each team the ball in equal measures, award 7 points for a goal, have timeouts for supporters to get beers, and put a little bar above the goal awarding 3 pts for a shot over the top.



Who are these idiots?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Better yet they could give each team the ball in equal measures, award 7 points for a goal, have timeouts for supporters to get beers, and put a little bar above the goal awarding 3 pts for a shot over the top.



Who are these idiots?

They're setting up a working party to investigate it. Working, or swanning about having lunches?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6452013.stm

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I've always wondered why there isn't an incentive for more attacking away performances but this idea is bizarre as playing for a 0-0 could get you two points. A better idea would be to offer 4 points for an away win, while a home win is 3 points and a draw is 1 point each.

That way, the away team is more likely to attack and secondly it will reward an away win which is normally harder than a home win. A home win against Wigan isn't the same as an away win at Old Trafford in terms of difficulty.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Sto ... 31,00.html

Meanwhile, Grimsby manager Alan Buckley has come up with his own idea to enhance the game's entertainment and ensure teams do not adopt a negative approach. "The best thing they could do to make the game more entertaining is to introduce four points for an away win," he said. "I came up with the idea while I was sat on a beach a couple of years ago. That would encourage teams going away from home trying to merely stifle the opposition. I'd keep one point for a draw, three for a home win and four for an away win, but what do I know?"