It is like buying money!

[chris]

Still on.

Not anymore

[Nozza]

Still on.

Not anymore

Oh, well.

[Nozza]

Get a BoylesSports account set-up:

www.boylesports.com

And get a small wedge layed on these:

Sunderland to win remaining 4 games @ 9/1
Sunderland to score 75 or more goals in 06/07 season (currently 65) @ 10/1.

Silly prices.

[TANGODANCER]

Commie's right about the laying off. Most bookies watch what's bet on and cover themselves by laying opposing bets etc. No bookie allows fortunes to be at risk without cover. That's why at least most of them finish up winners. They have to watch right up to the off because syndicates hit a lot of shops with medium sized bets at the death to keep the odds up. The bookies then have to lay off the same or lose a lot of money. The rarely do the latter.

[Mich Caine]

You never see a bookie arrive to work on a bicycle.

Take it from me a mad keen gambler - sports betting and fixed odds betting is crap, the taker of bets always wins. You may have luck short term but long term you will be deeply out of pocket.

Poker is where the money lies - its betting on your skill against other people's skill. I make money each month guaranteed. For sure you have to get to a decent standard but its easy money - online poker means you can play any time, you can become a specialist at certain types of games and just keep playing such games to make money.

I have given up with all sports betting, it really is a waste of time.

[blurred]

Take it from me a mad keen gambler - sports betting and fixed odds betting is crap, the taker of bets always wins. You may have luck short term but long term you will be deeply out of pocket.

Absolute tosh, and I'd be willing to conduct an experiment to prove otherwise. If you end up out of pocket over the long term then you are a mug-punter and are choosing your bets injudiciously. I reckon I could start with a bank of, say, £100 at the start of next footie season and make it up to 4 times that by the end of the year. Yes, you'd be looking at a lot of odds-on shots, or perhaps doubles, but if you stick to singles and doubles you will not go far wrong.

[fatshaft]

Take it from me a mad keen gambler - sports betting and fixed odds betting is crap, the taker of bets always wins. You may have luck short term but long term you will be deeply out of pocket.

Absolute tosh, and I'd be willing to conduct an experiment to prove otherwise. If you end up out of pocket over the long term then you are a mug-punter and are choosing your bets injudiciously. I reckon I could start with a bank of, say, £100 at the start of next footie season and make it up to 4 times that by the end of the year. Yes, you'd be looking at a lot of odds-on shots, or perhaps doubles, but if you stick to singles and doubles you will not go far wrong.

Mich, blurred is as right as you are. There are sportsbook wiiners just as there are poker winners. Who definetelty loses are the "back my own team", "have to have an interest" and "anything in a multiple" merchants. You have to back a choice for a reason, and even then the price should be right, and nearly always singles. There are plenty of punters banned by the bookies for being nothing more than winners.

[Dr.Karl]

Take it from me a mad keen gambler - sports betting and fixed odds betting is crap, the taker of bets always wins. You may have luck short term but long term you will be deeply out of pocket.

Absolute tosh, and I'd be willing to conduct an experiment to prove otherwise. If you end up out of pocket over the long term then you are a mug-punter and are choosing your bets injudiciously. I reckon I could start with a bank of, say, £100 at the start of next footie season and make it up to 4 times that by the end of the year. Yes, you'd be looking at a lot of odds-on shots, or perhaps doubles, but if you stick to singles and doubles you will not go far wrong.

I agree there is money to be made from fixed odds betting but if you can quadruple a bankroll in a year at a low risk you should quit your day job!

[blurred]

I agree there is money to be made from fixed odds betting but if you can quadruple a bankroll in a year at a low risk you should quit your day job!

Tell me about it, it's something I've considered many a time - if I had the security behind me to pay the bills and whatnot I'd easily give it a shot. All I need now's the inheritance to come through and I'm set

Seriously though, a fella on RAOTL set up a thing last year starting with £200 I think it was with the aim of making enough over the season to pay for his season ticket for the following year. He hit 2 grand sometime around May (horses and footie, that was).

[Nozza]

Blurred:

http://www.the-wanderer.co.uk/boards/vi ... 241#258241

Also for blurred - how do you run a "naps" compo, like?

[blurred]

Will give the info in a while - busy as bollocks this week (at work and at home).

[Verbal]

Poker is where the money lies - its betting on your skill against other people's skill. I make money each month guaranteed. For sure you have to get to a decent standard but its easy money - online poker means you can play any time, you can become a specialist at certain types of games and just keep playing such games to make money.

I would have to agree, but a decent standard is definitely needed as well as patience. I have a mate who plays regular, very loose player, and during a tourney had an unbelievable run of luck and cards (Jamie Gold-esque) and ended up winning it. He then went playing cash games online and as far as i know got into four figures worth of debt. You need to be able to adapt your game as well as be shrewd.

It's also an excellent game to play.