Allardyce is a complete failure, let's all laugh at him.

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Post by FaninOz » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:59 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:I'd luv it if we finished above them. Luv it!!
If that could be arranged I'd take 17th NOW !!!
So would I, in fact stop the league now we are 15th for god's sake!!! :D
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Post by H. Pedersen » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:27 pm

"His future is in his players' hands" . . . what a load of shit. Why even have a manager then? May as well sack him now.

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:36 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:"His future is in his players' hands" . . . what a load of shit. Why even have a manager then? May as well sack him now.
Aye, but enough about Capello.
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Post by Batman » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:07 pm

"I'm a top man in my field and I know it's not good enough" - Fat Sam Allardyce in The Times.

Just as a quick reminder to Sam, Newcastle are responsible for no less than four of Derby's seven points this season.
Top stuff.

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Post by bobo the clown » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:50 pm

Well, Ashley's saying nowt while surrounded with fans telling him enough is enough. The Chairman is also keeping schtum, with the proverbial, silent ... but very loud "no comment".

Meanwhile, ex-player and penalty misser, Waddle says "the fans are impatient ... they want to see who he buys in January". However, the Fat, Lying Bastard has already been told that he'll be given no money. No surprise given his failiures to date when given it to spend (Barton, Smith, that centre-half who makes Cid look like a good-effort, etc.)

Let's be honest (he says, hopefully), without a big, BIG, turn in performances he's a dead-man-walking.

Who would sign for a manager who may well not be there the following month, where fans are booing him for simply standing pitch-side and who spent £6m on a violent thug with court appearances hanging over him ?

Meanwhile, the "senior players" are at it again. This week BFSA had the bright idea that, from Wigan, he'd keep the squad together & travel down south ready for the Chelsea game. The players told him to go fck himself & so back to Newcastle they have gone (well, not Barton, of course, but that's another story).

There is unrest as he persists in playing players out of position. He's 'converted' Alan Smith to defensive midfielder ... what now for Faye ?

He has now retaliated by criticising his own players.

Former players are stepping back & Macchiavelli himself ... a.k.a. Alan Shearer is in the changing room waiting to be called (& what a mistake THAT will be when they eventually do it !!!).

As I said, dead man walking. He should have stayed ... or at the very least left with dignity. He would have had a statue raised to him in 2 or 3 years time. Now, he'll get sacked, take to the media (not BBC though, eh, fatty ??) and then scrap & scrape for a job somewhere. He'll get one with a club with promise, but will never re-assemble the backroom staff he had here & stole to there. No other medium sized club would ever stand the cost.

Meanwhile, the slow, but sure grinding of the legal wheels will catch up with him. He will be shown to be a liar, a cheat & ... ultimately ... a fraudster. Disgrace & possible jail awaits him. To be frank, that'd be better than being on Tyneside where 9 out of 10 despise him by now ... or is that just the playing squad ??

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Post by Batman » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:13 am

according to't papers today he's not for the job much longer than this weekend.

hoorah!

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Post by ratbert » Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:38 am

This ongoing lack of gratitude to the manager who did more for BWFC than any other quite frankly stinks.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:11 am

H. Pedersen wrote:"His future is in his players' hands" . . . what a load of shit. Why even have a manager then? May as well sack him now.
i loved the comment "some i've brought in, some i haven't"

lets look at the list of players who have fecked up big style...
cacapa, rozehnal, jose enrique, beye... there is a definite link here that i think i am missing

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Post by James B » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:14 am

ratbert wrote:This ongoing lack of gratitude to the manager who did more for BWFC than any other quite frankly stinks.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
can still have gratitude and be happy that it is going wrong, kind of like when a long term lover leaves you for someone else

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Post by CrazyHorse » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:27 am

ratbert wrote:This ongoing lack of gratitude to the manager who did more for BWFC than any other quite frankly stinks.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
This would be the same manager who also did more to f*ck up BWFC than any other too?
I'm not ashamed in the slightest.
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Post by jmjhb » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:16 pm

James B wrote:
ratbert wrote:This ongoing lack of gratitude to the manager who did more for BWFC than any other quite frankly stinks.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
can still have gratitude and be happy that it is going wrong, kind of like when a long term lover leaves you for someone else
Perfect analogy!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:43 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Well, Ashley's saying nowt............
Beltin' post, Bobo.

Cheers. :mrgreen:
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Post by keveh » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:29 pm

I still think that if they stick with him he'll succeed.

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:35 pm

keveh wrote:I still think that if they stick with him he'll succeed.

Sorry? Are we still talking about Newcastle here?
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:55 pm

keveh wrote:I still think that if they stick with him he'll succeed.
Of course, I think that everyone can see that, everyone with the notable exception of the thick-headed, Gallowgate End gut-buckets, the very tossers that are crying that they haven't won anything since the Precambrian era yet haven't got two minutes worth of patience when it comes to sorting things out. Now, couple this to Fatty's 'give me five years' request and it just makes the whole thing so very, very funny. Everybody involved with Newcastle United in whatever capacity deserve one and other. Wankers to a man.
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Post by Batman » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:55 pm

keveh wrote:I still think that if they stick with him he'll succeed.

you naive fool :lol:

of course he will, but come on, you're talking about the Toon

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Post by warthog » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:45 pm

keveh wrote:I still think that if they stick with him he'll succeed.
I don't. I said that he was past his sell by date when he was still at Bolton. He's signed Rozehnal and this Copacabana chap as centre halves, both of whom seem to be spectacularly crap, and he left us with Cid and Samuel (Sammy Lee might have put pen to paper but Allardyce did the spade work.) The squad he left us with, small and lacking in depth is the main reason we're in our current mess.

He signed Barton out of vanity, believing that he could turn any players round and that's backfired as almost everyone knew that it would. Then there's tactics, where he refuses to step out of his comfort zone, regardless of the players available to him.

He'll be sacked if Newcastle lose at home to City and then collect a nice fat severance cheque before doing the rounds as a TV pundit.

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Post by Batman » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:29 pm

Could I despair anymore after the results against Derby and Wigan?

Well I woke up to the answer this morning - Joey Barton in more trouble with the law.

Not only did we pay £5.5 million for him. We also paid an extra £300k to Man City which went directly to Barton for some sort of loyalty clause that they were due to pay but rightly refused. This money will look even more ridiculous if he goes to prison for one or both of is criminal charges. On the pitch, his performances have been no where near the quality of a supposedly multi-million pound player. He looks slow on the ball, shows no vision and is constantly caught in possession

But we all know what Joey Barton is. That is never going to be in need of debating. But what does need to be discussed is which manager in their right mind would buy him? Well Sam Allardyce would.

Allardyce has been an unmitigated disaster for the Toon in my opinion. His style of play is unentertaining and more importantly is not getting results. He plays people out of position and we have yet to see the worth of the £7 million left back who is below a left winger in the pecking order. He can complain about the back four, but that is now largely his own making. Rozehnal, Beye, Cacapa, Enrique, Geremi, Barton are all his own purchases. We can look to a draw against Arsenal, and last minute victories against Fulham and Birmingham, but we never looked convincing and in the last two games we have been shown what the manager and some of the players are really capable of - including Barton.

And it is Allardyce who is responsible, in a way, for Barton's behaviour and this latest media calamity. After a performance against Wigan, which even Sam admitted was poor, and an upcoming game against Chelsea, why are the players allowed to cavort and party in this manner? Should they not all be on Tyneside preparing in a professional manner? At least this would go some way to justifying the massive wages. But no, the story in the papers is that Allardyce submitted and let the players go and see their families. I know it's Christmas, but thats what they are paid to do, and are supposed to love doing - playing football every week.

As a final note, I would like to point out that I am not usually one to call for managers' heads. I wouldn't have sacked Sir Bobby and was one of the 6000 travellers that sang from start to finish at Blackburn when we were 3-1 down. I love my club and want a safe, long term future. But this is ridiculous. Barton and Allardyce. Both exactly why we will achieve nothing, and are the laughing stock of the Premier League.
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Post by Verbal » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:55 pm

Batman wrote: But please oh please don't let the fraud be sacked. He'd walk away with a bag of swag and have oodles of free time to enjoy something that he's never earned. Rather make him stay on to the end of his contract so that we Newcastle fans can have the salutary benefit of an Augean period to teach us that we have no right to assume success. And subject him to the ridicule that he deserves.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:53 pm

ratbert wrote:This ongoing lack of gratitude to the manager who did more for BWFC than any other quite frankly stinks.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Hmmm, we have his best interests at heart.

He wanted to spend some time with his family when he left Bolton, but unfortunately, as sometimes happens in football, just as he was settling down on the beach, Newcastle went and sacked their manager and along came an offer too good to refuse, which must have come as a big surprise to Sam.

We just want him to be able to spend that quiet time with his nearest and dearest, because the poor love never got the chance last time round.

I feel no shame in having his interests at heart.

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