Allardyce is a complete failure, let's all laugh at him.

There ARE other teams(we'd have no-one to play otherwise) and here's where all-comers can discuss the wider world of football......

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Fri Dec 28, 2007 5:06 pm

Batman wrote:Could I despair anymore after the results against Derby and Wigan?

Well I woke up to the answer this morning - Joey Barton in more trouble with the law.

Not only did we pay £5.5 million for him. We also paid an extra £300k to Man City which went directly to Barton for some sort of loyalty clause that they were due to pay but rightly refused. This money will look even more ridiculous if he goes to prison for one or both of is criminal charges. On the pitch, his performances have been no where near the quality of a supposedly multi-million pound player. He looks slow on the ball, shows no vision and is constantly caught in possession

But we all know what Joey Barton is. That is never going to be in need of debating. But what does need to be discussed is which manager in their right mind would buy him? Well Sam Allardyce would.

Allardyce has been an unmitigated disaster for the Toon in my opinion. His style of play is unentertaining and more importantly is not getting results. He plays people out of position and we have yet to see the worth of the £7 million left back who is below a left winger in the pecking order. He can complain about the back four, but that is now largely his own making. Rozehnal, Beye, Cacapa, Enrique, Geremi, Barton are all his own purchases. We can look to a draw against Arsenal, and last minute victories against Fulham and Birmingham, but we never looked convincing and in the last two games we have been shown what the manager and some of the players are really capable of - including Barton.

And it is Allardyce who is responsible, in a way, for Barton's behaviour and this latest media calamity. After a performance against Wigan, which even Sam admitted was poor, and an upcoming game against Chelsea, why are the players allowed to cavort and party in this manner? Should they not all be on Tyneside preparing in a professional manner? At least this would go some way to justifying the massive wages. But no, the story in the papers is that Allardyce submitted and let the players go and see their families. I know it's Christmas, but thats what they are paid to do, and are supposed to love doing - playing football every week.

As a final note, I would like to point out that I am not usually one to call for managers' heads. I wouldn't have sacked Sir Bobby and was one of the 6000 travellers that sang from start to finish at Blackburn when we were 3-1 down. I love my club and want a safe, long term future. But this is ridiculous. Barton and Allardyce. Both exactly why we will achieve nothing, and are the laughing stock of the Premier League.
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Can anyone tell me if the self-inflated and erroneously press-lionised Big Ham has ever won anything in football? We know he introduced snap-tackle-and-elbow-pop suffocation-football to Bolton with some success; but I don't feel that that counts as an achievement, more a case of silk purse and sow's ear. But please oh please don't let the fraud be sacked. He'd walk away with a bag of swag and have oodles of free time to enjoy something that he's never earned. Rather make him stay on to the end of his contract so that we Newcastle fans can have the salutary benefit of an Augean period to teach us that we have no right to assume success. And subject him to the ridicule that he deserves.

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Nice post, but come on!
As a final note, I would like to point out that I am not usually one to call for managers' heads. I wouldn't have sacked Sir Bobby
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Post by H. Pedersen » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:17 pm

warthog wrote:
keveh wrote:I still think that if they stick with him he'll succeed.
I don't. I said that he was past his sell by date when he was still at Bolton . . . He signed Barton out of vanity, believing that he could turn any players round and that's backfired as almost everyone knew that it would. Then there's tactics, where he refuses to step out of his comfort zone, regardless of the players available to him.
Spot on. His great strength was signing bargain players who could fit into his system. He got bored with that at Bolton, but he simply doesn't seem capable of using money effectively. High-priced players and clubs that can afford them don't want long-ball 4-5-1. Other weaknesses include his horrific public relations skills and losing streaks that he can't turn around - we accepted them at Bolton but no club bigger than us will.

Bolton and Allardyce was the perfect marriage of club and manager. Looks like (knock wood) we'll survive the divorce better than he will.

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Post by Batman » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:21 pm

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Post by Batman » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:30 pm

One thing that always stops and makes me laugh is thinking back to our 1-3 game v Newcastle at the start of the year.

I bet at 0-3 at HT Allardyce was thinking 'Yeah, I'm a f uckin great manager me, I can turn anyone into a great team'

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um no you can't you fat c*nt

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:47 am

how much of a fairytale ending would it be if he got the sack on 19th Jan following a stuffy 1-0 win by the away side :mrgreen:


meanwhile no great surprise his mate is sticking up for him
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Post by Verbal » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:57 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:
warthog wrote:
keveh wrote:I still think that if they stick with him he'll succeed.
I don't. I said that he was past his sell by date when he was still at Bolton . . . He signed Barton out of vanity, believing that he could turn any players round and that's backfired as almost everyone knew that it would. Then there's tactics, where he refuses to step out of his comfort zone, regardless of the players available to him.
Spot on. His great strength was signing bargain players who could fit into his system. He got bored with that at Bolton, but he simply doesn't seem capable of using money effectively. High-priced players and clubs that can afford them don't want long-ball 4-5-1. Other weaknesses include his horrific public relations skills and losing streaks that he can't turn around - we accepted them at Bolton but no club bigger than us will.

Bolton and Allardyce was the perfect marriage of club and manager. Looks like (knock wood) we'll survive the divorce better than he will.
Would agree with that - it's a bit like Sven...wasn't up to too much as an international manager, but boy can he spend money well.
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Post by warthog » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:07 pm

This made me laugh

Who was worse? Souness or Allardyce. Ouch.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:15 pm

warthog wrote:This made me laugh

Who was worse? Souness or Allardyce. Ouch.
:lol:

They really are the Car-Toon Army. 'Beat Sunderland', 'Broke our Southampton hoodo'.

Can you believe that these come up as being serious criteria? :conf:

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Post by James B » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:17 pm

was worse?

geordies not that bright are they

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:21 pm

James B wrote:was worse?

geordies not that bright are they
Might indicate they see Allardyce as "past tense" :wink:
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Post by bobo the clown » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:59 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
James B wrote:was worse?

geordies not that bright are they
Might indicate they see Allardyce as "past tense" :wink:
Must do ... otherwise, being Geordie's, they'd have written "was worser".
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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:27 pm

This looks a bit like a "Vote of Confidence" to me :-) :-)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 165889.stm

Newcastle chairman Chris Mort has insisted manager Sam Allardyce's job is not in danger despite the constant speculation over his future.
The former Bolton boss has been under pressure since his appointment in May and it got worse as Newcastle took just one point out of nine over Christmas.

But Mort says they are not looking for a replacement for Allardyce.

"There's a different name every week and there's no truth in it. I find all this speculation tedious," said Mort.

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:13 pm

Why? Why are you insistant on getting sacked before we get the chance to slam the nail home?

Selfish git! :roll:
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Post by James B » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:15 pm

he must be getting edgy now

trying to divert attention by going on about some elano tackle that was "career threatening"

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Post by Soldier_Of_The_White_Army » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:16 pm

James B wrote:he must be getting edgy now

trying to divert attention by going on about some elano tackle that was "career threatening"
Aye, HIS! :D
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Post by James B » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:17 pm

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:
James B wrote:he must be getting edgy now

trying to divert attention by going on about some elano tackle that was "career threatening"
Aye, HIS! :D
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Post by Batman » Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:19 pm

ho ho ho

byeeeee you fat fu cking prick!!!

sam gone, rafa next!

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Post by bobo the clown » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:15 am

Worthy4England wrote:Mort says they are not looking for a replacement for Allardyce.

"There's a different name every week and there's no truth in it. I find all this speculation tedious," said Mort.
Dead on, they aren't looking ... coz they have already found one !!

Next Sunday pm ... me, BBC1 and a bottle of red as I watch the public execution of Sam Allardyce, liar & cheat of this parish, at the hands of Stoke City.

Roll-on !!
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Post by Verbal » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:50 am

bobo the clown wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:Mort says they are not looking for a replacement for Allardyce.

"There's a different name every week and there's no truth in it. I find all this speculation tedious," said Mort.
Dead on, they aren't looking ... coz they have already found one !!

Next Sunday pm ... me, BBC1 and a bottle of red as I watch the public execution of Sam Allardyce, liar & cheat of this parish, at the hands of Stoke City.

Roll-on !!
And if not, there is always a chance that at 17.15 on the 19th of Jan, Allardyce may finish against whom he started. :twisted:
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Post by warthog » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:32 pm

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/new ... 3-20308666

It was all the ref's fault apparently
Fatty snivelled rather than wrote: “People might say it sounds like we are making excuses, but we are not – have a look at them.

“We feel the challenge from Elano on Abdoulaye Faye was a straight red.

“It was a horrendous tackle, but not dealt with. People talk about two-footed tackles, but this was 10 times worse than that.

“Damien Duff was through one-on-one and was held by the full-back. The linesman gave offside, but when you look at the replay, it is onside.

“Richard Dunne upended Steven Taylor towards the end from an Emre free-kick – a penalty at that stage would have given us an opportunity.

“You never know, but even that one was not given.”

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