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Sammy Lee
Does anyone have an opinion on this?Someone over at the BBC Sport website on their football gossip page wrote:Sammy Lee is being lined up as Wolves' next manager if Mick McCarthy cannot turn things round at Molineux (News of the World)
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SAMMY LEE is being lined up to replace Mick McCarthy as Wolves manager.
McCarthy is fighting for his job after taking just four points from his last seven Championship matches and they lie 10th in the table.
And chairman Steve Morgan, a lifelong Liverpool fan, is keen to bring in former Bolton boss and Anfield hero Lee.
Morgan has also sounded out another ex-Red, Paul Ince.
But the former England midfielder is determined to get a promotion on his CV with MK Dons who are sitting pretty at the top of League Two.
Lee, 48, replaced Sam Allardyce as Bolton boss in April but was sacked after just six months with the Trotters second bottom of the Premier League. He became a coach at Bolton in 2005.
His managerial role at the club was his first after being involved in the coaching set-up at Liverpool and then with England.
But after a difficult start to Bolton's season, Lee fell out with several top players and coach Gary Speed who stepped down from his position to concentrate on playing.
McCarthy is fighting for his job after taking just four points from his last seven Championship matches and they lie 10th in the table.
And chairman Steve Morgan, a lifelong Liverpool fan, is keen to bring in former Bolton boss and Anfield hero Lee.
Morgan has also sounded out another ex-Red, Paul Ince.
But the former England midfielder is determined to get a promotion on his CV with MK Dons who are sitting pretty at the top of League Two.
Lee, 48, replaced Sam Allardyce as Bolton boss in April but was sacked after just six months with the Trotters second bottom of the Premier League. He became a coach at Bolton in 2005.
His managerial role at the club was his first after being involved in the coaching set-up at Liverpool and then with England.
But after a difficult start to Bolton's season, Lee fell out with several top players and coach Gary Speed who stepped down from his position to concentrate on playing.
I'd like to see him do well. If he doesn't try to change the playing style as he did with us, he can succeed. But Wolves fans will be expecting to push for promotion, so he would need to get results soon.
Coming in as an outsider, he may find it easier to work with the players - with us he was promoted from within and the change from being 'one of the lads' to in charge caused some of his problems.
Good luck to him.
Coming in as an outsider, he may find it easier to work with the players - with us he was promoted from within and the change from being 'one of the lads' to in charge caused some of his problems.
Good luck to him.
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If that was the case he repaid the favour with the likes of Braaten and Wilhelmsson.warthog wrote:Good luck to the guy. He inherited an absolute crock of shit from Allardyce and was treated abysmally at Bolton.
I'm sure Sammy Lee can manage to find signings for the Championship. Braaten and Wilhelmsson would've fit in nicely there, might be a while for them to make the grade but at the moment it only looks like they're on their way out.
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And Allardyce never, ever made any bad signings did he?Mar wrote:If that was the case he repaid the favour with the likes of Braaten and Wilhelmsson.warthog wrote:Good luck to the guy. He inherited an absolute crock of shit from Allardyce and was treated abysmally at Bolton.
I'm sure Sammy Lee can manage to find signings for the Championship. Braaten and Wilhelmsson would've fit in nicely there, might be a while for them to make the grade but at the moment it only looks like they're on their way out.

Lee made mistakes for sure, but it doesn't excuse the pure spite that he got and continues to get. Yet Kevin Nolan get's a two-second ironic cheer and hysterics ensue. Bolton fans are wierd.
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On our poll, only 8 people on here are in favour of getting shut of Nolan, of which I'm sure you're one - the other 88% are in favour of keeping him. Might explain why Nolan is only getting a "two-second" ironic cheer. Probably because there's only a small (but significant) minority agree with your point of view. I don't think the support for Sammy Lee was anything like 88% in favour of keeping him as manager. I like the guy as a coach, I firmly believe had he still been here, we'd now be in more shit than we currently are. I don't hold any "spite" for the guy, nor did I ever do so - unlike a lot of the anti-Nolan brigade. I don't think he was taking the right approach as a manager for our club.warthog wrote:And Allardyce never, ever made any bad signings did he?Mar wrote:If that was the case he repaid the favour with the likes of Braaten and Wilhelmsson.warthog wrote:Good luck to the guy. He inherited an absolute crock of shit from Allardyce and was treated abysmally at Bolton.
I'm sure Sammy Lee can manage to find signings for the Championship. Braaten and Wilhelmsson would've fit in nicely there, might be a while for them to make the grade but at the moment it only looks like they're on their way out.
Lee made mistakes for sure, but it doesn't excuse the pure spite that he got and continues to get. Yet Kevin Nolan get's a two-second ironic cheer and hysterics ensue. Bolton fans are wierd.
I wish him well for the future and hope he makes it as a manager playing good 4-4-2 football. Trying it at Bolton this season was wrong time, wrong place....for me he tried too much at once the consequence that we ended up anchored near the bottom of the league with a team that looked like it had never met each other. Whether we get to safety from the appaling start to this season remains to be seen.
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So it's only the opinions of the majority that matter then? Thanks for clearing that up.Worthy4England wrote:On our poll, only 8 people on here are in favour of getting shut of Nolan, of which I'm sure you're one - the other 88% are in favour of keeping him. Might explain why Nolan is only getting a "two-second" ironic cheer. Probably because there's only a small (but significant) minority agree with your point of view. I don't think the support for Sammy Lee was anything like 88% in favour of keeping him as manager. I like the guy as a coach, I firmly believe had he still been here, we'd now be in more shit than we currently are. I don't hold any "spite" for the guy, nor did I ever do so - unlike a lot of the anti-Nolan brigade. I don't think he was taking the right approach as a manager for our club.warthog wrote:And Allardyce never, ever made any bad signings did he?Mar wrote:If that was the case he repaid the favour with the likes of Braaten and Wilhelmsson.warthog wrote:Good luck to the guy. He inherited an absolute crock of shit from Allardyce and was treated abysmally at Bolton.
I'm sure Sammy Lee can manage to find signings for the Championship. Braaten and Wilhelmsson would've fit in nicely there, might be a while for them to make the grade but at the moment it only looks like they're on their way out.
Lee made mistakes for sure, but it doesn't excuse the pure spite that he got and continues to get. Yet Kevin Nolan get's a two-second ironic cheer and hysterics ensue. Bolton fans are wierd.
I wish him well for the future and hope he makes it as a manager playing good 4-4-2 football. Trying it at Bolton this season was wrong time, wrong place....for me he tried too much at once the consequence that we ended up anchored near the bottom of the league with a team that looked like it had never met each other. Whether we get to safety from the appaling start to this season remains to be seen.
And that appalling start to the season was totally and absolutely down to Sammy Lee and to absolutely no one else. It wasn't successive failures in the transfer market since the end of the 2004-5 season, that had left a squad without the size or the quality to compete in even one competition. It wasn't a continuation of the appalling form of the previous season. It wasn't his predecessor saddling him with with rubbish like Cid and Michalik or players mired in their own complacency.
No, lets just blame Sammy Lee for everything, because it saves having to think.
And that cheer for Nolan came from at least half of the people in the stadium. I'm sure someone like yourself who likes to fiddle with figures can work out that that's far more people than have voted on here.
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Which point did I say only the opinions of the majority matter? I generally value your well welcomed reports on our yoof and reserves. I just happen to have a different opinion of Nolan than you have matewarthog wrote:So it's only the opinions of the majority that matter then? Thanks for clearing that up.Worthy4England wrote:On our poll, only 8 people on here are in favour of getting shut of Nolan, of which I'm sure you're one - the other 88% are in favour of keeping him. Might explain why Nolan is only getting a "two-second" ironic cheer. Probably because there's only a small (but significant) minority agree with your point of view. I don't think the support for Sammy Lee was anything like 88% in favour of keeping him as manager. I like the guy as a coach, I firmly believe had he still been here, we'd now be in more shit than we currently are. I don't hold any "spite" for the guy, nor did I ever do so - unlike a lot of the anti-Nolan brigade. I don't think he was taking the right approach as a manager for our club.warthog wrote:And Allardyce never, ever made any bad signings did he?Mar wrote:If that was the case he repaid the favour with the likes of Braaten and Wilhelmsson.warthog wrote:Good luck to the guy. He inherited an absolute crock of shit from Allardyce and was treated abysmally at Bolton.
I'm sure Sammy Lee can manage to find signings for the Championship. Braaten and Wilhelmsson would've fit in nicely there, might be a while for them to make the grade but at the moment it only looks like they're on their way out.
Lee made mistakes for sure, but it doesn't excuse the pure spite that he got and continues to get. Yet Kevin Nolan get's a two-second ironic cheer and hysterics ensue. Bolton fans are wierd.
I wish him well for the future and hope he makes it as a manager playing good 4-4-2 football. Trying it at Bolton this season was wrong time, wrong place....for me he tried too much at once the consequence that we ended up anchored near the bottom of the league with a team that looked like it had never met each other. Whether we get to safety from the appaling start to this season remains to be seen.
And that appalling start to the season was totally and absolutely down to Sammy Lee and to absolutely no one else. It wasn't successive failures in the transfer market since the end of the 2004-5 season, that had left a squad without the size or the quality to compete in even one competition. It wasn't a continuation of the appalling form of the previous season. It wasn't his predecessor saddling him with with rubbish like Cid and Michalik or players mired in their own complacency.
No, lets just blame Sammy Lee for everything, because it saves having to think.
And that cheer for Nolan came from at least half of the people in the stadium. I'm sure someone like yourself who likes to fiddle with figures can work out that that's far more people than have voted on here.

11 players came in during the summer transfer window, most of em no better than the rubbish his predecessor saddled him with. Somehow or other, there was a fairly self evident breakdown in communication both on and off the pitch between the manager (and there's only one person I can point at here, coz there's only one of em) and a large part of the squad (I'm sure there's a few I could point at here). At no point have I ever blamed Sammy Lee for "everything". I do however believe that he went the wrong way about sorting out some of the fundamental problems. For you to suggest that I wanted Lee away from the Managers post "because it saves having to think" it just complete crap. I was a little surprised when he was appointed, but generally surpportive of his appointment initially. The way we were set out in the first few games suggested to me that there was a problem with him trying to change too many things at once, and in the end I do believe that the dressing room and the manager fell out.
Agree with you that "that cheer" came from a larger proportion of the stadium than the figures on the poll on here represents. Maybe the witch hunt that some people continually bang on about regarding our Club Captain is spreading, not helped much by the fact that he did have a particularly poor game - not that he was the only one - Campo wasn't up to much in MF either - I could probably go through how poor most of the team were in fact, yet some people seem to want to give particular levels of criticism to Nolan that don't generally apply to others in the team - c'est la vie.
Will be tough at a new club for Lee now because all the players will look at him and just think of the unfortunate failure he was here. An obstacle to overcome but not impossible, Brown is now doing well at Hull after his Derby disaster.
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Astonishing that anyone would give him another chance, at least at such a high level as the Wolves job.CrazyHorse wrote:Does anyone have an opinion on this?Someone over at the BBC Sport website on their football gossip page wrote:Sammy Lee is being lined up as Wolves' next manager if Mick McCarthy cannot turn things round at Molineux (News of the World)
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Although your way ahead of me when it comes to irrational hatred of Sammy Lee. I have to agree, i'd be astonished if he got a chance at such a high level. I'd imagined him having to work his way up with a lower league team first, perhaps doing a Peter Taylor and going non league.fatshaft wrote:Astonishing that anyone would give him another chance, at least at such a high level as the Wolves job.CrazyHorse wrote:Does anyone have an opinion on this?Someone over at the BBC Sport website on their football gossip page wrote:Sammy Lee is being lined up as Wolves' next manager if Mick McCarthy cannot turn things round at Molineux (News of the World)
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Remember that Allardyce signed Cid and Dzemali. You could also argue that J Lo Samuel was tracked by Allardyce at the end of the season and he got the ball rolling on that deal. I don't know if it was the same story with McCann but he has certainly been the best of this bunch so far.
Lee signed O'Brien who has been fantastic despite what most people on here were expecting. I remember talking to a 'lifelong' fan in Skopje who said he couldn't understand why Lee was bringing in the reserves from other teams, which shows how intelligent our fans can be. Along similar lines was the loan of Danny Guthrie who most fans recognised was not going to be the next Steven Gerrard but more likely the next Kevin Nolan. I think most of us didn't expect Guthrie to feature as much as he has done so far. We expected him in time to replace Speed.
Lee also signed Helgursson who has been injured but obviously with Anelka going and Diouf on leave I would hope Helgur returns fit soon. In my opinion Helgur was a decent signing at the time. I'm still not sure about Alonso because while he does have potential I think it will take him time to adapt to the English game. At least he is on loan if we want to get shut.
Then there was the signing of Wilhemsson and Braaten. Okay these guys are shockers, but these were the ones everyone was posting about. These were the ones the fans expected so much from, so they had Sammy Lee and the fans fooled.
Finally the signing and reserve keeper Adam Bogdan can't really be included yet. Remember Allardyce again signed Harsanyi who I haven't been impressed with in friendlies but until he plays a competitive game we will never know. (I have the conspiracy theory he is here to keep Lubo happy, who Allardyce also signed)
Lee signed O'Brien who has been fantastic despite what most people on here were expecting. I remember talking to a 'lifelong' fan in Skopje who said he couldn't understand why Lee was bringing in the reserves from other teams, which shows how intelligent our fans can be. Along similar lines was the loan of Danny Guthrie who most fans recognised was not going to be the next Steven Gerrard but more likely the next Kevin Nolan. I think most of us didn't expect Guthrie to feature as much as he has done so far. We expected him in time to replace Speed.
Lee also signed Helgursson who has been injured but obviously with Anelka going and Diouf on leave I would hope Helgur returns fit soon. In my opinion Helgur was a decent signing at the time. I'm still not sure about Alonso because while he does have potential I think it will take him time to adapt to the English game. At least he is on loan if we want to get shut.
Then there was the signing of Wilhemsson and Braaten. Okay these guys are shockers, but these were the ones everyone was posting about. These were the ones the fans expected so much from, so they had Sammy Lee and the fans fooled.
Finally the signing and reserve keeper Adam Bogdan can't really be included yet. Remember Allardyce again signed Harsanyi who I haven't been impressed with in friendlies but until he plays a competitive game we will never know. (I have the conspiracy theory he is here to keep Lubo happy, who Allardyce also signed)
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