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I'm noticing more and more that some people use small case letters after a full stop (point). Why is this, and why do names and the expression "I" (but not me) get the same treatment? I've wondered about it for a while but last night I noticed all the Chelsea players names on shirts followed this small-case, no capital trend. Is there a secret revolutionisation of the English language afoot, or what?
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They did the same for the Wafer cup too, must be the new FIFA Font! But in fairness, cock-ups and a lack of intelligence sort of sum up that particular bodyTANGODANCER wrote:I'm noticing more and more that some people use small case letters after a full stop (point). Why is this, and why do names and the expression "I" (but not me) get the same treatment? I've wondered about it for a while but last night I noticed all the Chelsea players names on shirts followed this small-case, no capital trend. Is there a secret revolutionisation of the English language afoot, or what?
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'I' is capitalized because 'i' looks like it might be a spelling mistake from (or) of the previous word . it helps readability to have capital letters. aparantly.TANGODANCER wrote:I'm noticing more and more that some people use small case letters after a full stop (point). Why is this, and why do names and the expression "I" (but not me) get the same treatment? I've wondered about it for a while but last night I noticed all the Chelsea players names on shirts followed this small-case, no capital trend. Is there a secret revolutionisation of the English language afoot, or what?
arent loads of nouns in german capitalized ?
all the league team squad names were all capitalized and you didnt 'notice' that. "FERDINAND" , "DAVIES" , "SURNAME"
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Twas the fact that Chelsea's weren't that I commented on A1.a1 wrote:'I' is capitalized because 'i' looks like it might be a spelling mistake from (or) of the previous word . it helps readability to have capital letters. aparantly.TANGODANCER wrote:I'm noticing more and more that some people use small case letters after a full stop (point). Why is this, and why do names and the expression "I" (but not me) get the same treatment? I've wondered about it for a while but last night I noticed all the Chelsea players names on shirts followed this small-case, no capital trend. Is there a secret revolutionisation of the English language afoot, or what?
arent loads of nouns in german capitalized ?
all the league team squad names were all capitalized and you didnt 'notice' that. "FERDINAND" , "DAVIES" , "SURNAME"

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i do it through laziness i suppose, and am used to having microsoft word do it for me for essays and such like. it is a purely typing thing i still never forget when writing longhand. shift key is too far away and too hard to press 

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Fairy Nuff. Means I don't have to go out and look for "The 2008 Guide to Grammar" . ( Just saw a painter and decorator's van outside work with everything in lower case. Was getting worried.)ratbert wrote:It's laziness. I'm the ultimate grammar Nazi (note the capital N for what is a title) and it does my head in.

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You know what they say Worthy: " When anyone mentions Adolf Hitler, debate over!"Worthy4England wrote:As the ultimate grammar Nazi, shouldn't the N be in inverted comma's, as it's quoting the N at the beginning of Nazi....Just thought I'd start a debate.....ratbert wrote:It's laziness. I'm the ultimate grammar Nazi (note the capital N for what is a title) and it does my head in.

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i know.. but all lowercase is no more wrong (or right) than ALL UPPERCASE on shirtnames . it might look daft coz everyone else's are the opposite , but 'the opposite' is not the 'standard' either . 'FERDINAND' is wrong , 'cole' is wrong , 'Davies' is right.TANGODANCER wrote:
Twas the fact that Chelsea's weren't that I commented on A1.
not many use 'correct' mixed case , i'll bet its even less than the few that use lower case .
as long as its legible, (thats probably why they use serif fonts, and dont mix the cases) its all good ..
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Man Utd's was all in capitals though wasn't it?boltonboris wrote:They did the same for the Wafer cup too, must be the new FIFA Font! But in fairness, cock-ups and a lack of intelligence sort of sum up that particular bodyTANGODANCER wrote:I'm noticing more and more that some people use small case letters after a full stop (point). Why is this, and why do names and the expression "I" (but not me) get the same treatment? I've wondered about it for a while but last night I noticed all the Chelsea players names on shirts followed this small-case, no capital trend. Is there a secret revolutionisation of the English language afoot, or what?
Maybe I'm being snobbish but I don't agree with that I'm afraid.a1 wrote:as long as its legible, (thats probably why they use serif fonts, and dont mix the cases) its all good ..
Why bother going to school at all? Let's just rename the country to "The Illiterate Isles" and go raping and murdering old grannies for their pensions.
Not having a go at you a1 by the way, just venting!

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Don't want to start a big grammar debate, but language evolves, if the majority of people start writing in textspeak then that will become the language.language is a means of communication, no more no less. as long as it is understandable then it should be fine, if its not, then there is grounds for complaint, but not the idea of setting in stone something as fluid as languageFD wrote:Man Utd's was all in capitals though wasn't it?boltonboris wrote:They did the same for the Wafer cup too, must be the new FIFA Font! But in fairness, cock-ups and a lack of intelligence sort of sum up that particular bodyTANGODANCER wrote:I'm noticing more and more that some people use small case letters after a full stop (point). Why is this, and why do names and the expression "I" (but not me) get the same treatment? I've wondered about it for a while but last night I noticed all the Chelsea players names on shirts followed this small-case, no capital trend. Is there a secret revolutionisation of the English language afoot, or what?
Maybe I'm being snobbish but I don't agree with that I'm afraid.a1 wrote:as long as its legible, (thats probably why they use serif fonts, and dont mix the cases) its all good ..
Why bother going to school at all? Let's just rename the country to "The Illiterate Isles" and go raping and murdering old grannies for their pensions.
Not having a go at you a1 by the way, just venting!
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Prufrock - what you are getting at is 'organic' change. The slight change of spellings, usage of specific words declining etc..
Text speak and the Internet are actually imposing rapid change on our language, at a rate that has never been seen before. We've never had such an inclusive or, ahem, democratic tool as the internet before, where the majority of comments are unedited (indeed rarely self-edited).
I'm not as old as some on here (nor as young!), but I have to say it grates me, even with my loose usage of punctuation and literation, when people write in text speak, evidence that former Wanderers players blog (someone advise me on the apostrophe, I'm shocking with the usage of those). It just comes across as illiterate drivel.
IMHO, of course (he said, without a hint of irony
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Text speak and the Internet are actually imposing rapid change on our language, at a rate that has never been seen before. We've never had such an inclusive or, ahem, democratic tool as the internet before, where the majority of comments are unedited (indeed rarely self-edited).
I'm not as old as some on here (nor as young!), but I have to say it grates me, even with my loose usage of punctuation and literation, when people write in text speak, evidence that former Wanderers players blog (someone advise me on the apostrophe, I'm shocking with the usage of those). It just comes across as illiterate drivel.
IMHO, of course (he said, without a hint of irony

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i c ur point, but i fink dat as long as its undrstandble, den dat is all dat mattaz!Lord Kangana wrote:Prufrock - what you are getting at is 'organic' change. The slight change of spellings, usage of specific words declining etc..
Text speak and the Internet are actually imposing rapid change on our language, at a rate that has never been seen before. We've never had such an inclusive or, ahem, democratic tool as the internet before, where the majority of comments are unedited (indeed rarely self-edited).
I'm not as old as some on here (nor as young!), but I have to say it grates me, even with my loose usage of punctuation and literation, when people write in text speak, evidence that former Wanderers' player's/players' (depending if more than one player) blog (someone advise me on the apostrophe, I'm shocking with the usage of those). It just comes across as illiterate drivel.
IMHO, of course (he said, without a hint of irony)
i wouldn't exactly advocate everyone writing like that, but certain elements have already made their way into speech, i have heard people say 'lol' for instance. whilst not everyone's (and not mine i must add) cup of tea, that just how language is. i'm not saying that in 50 years time everyone will be writing and talking like it's text message they are dictating, but elements of textspeak will enter proper english, and others, for instance the apostrophe (see above

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Not whilst I have breath in my body good sir.Prufrock wrote:Don't want to start a big grammar debate, but language evolves, if the majority of people start writing in textspeak then that will become the language
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If you mean the last one, you could be right... it saddens me and cheapens the language - reminding me of Orwell's Newspeak: if you don't have the words, you can't have the thoughts - but it seems inexorable and inevitable. My mag's just advertised for a Production Editor/Chief Sub, who is ultimately responsible for checking all spelling in the mag, and a dozen of the applicants couldn't even get through their cover letters without errors. Whether it's accident, ignorance or indolence, it's not a very good sign - and that's for a position as gatekeeper of the language.ratbert wrote:It's laziness. I'm the ultimate grammar Nazi (note the capital N for what is a title) and it does my head in.
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