EURO 2008

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Post by fatshaft » Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:08 am

Tombwfc wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Must say the Turkish fans were amazing all the match. Never stopped roaring them on right through. Save of the tournament from their goalie too, and from a brilliant free kick. Think the doggedness was more from the great effort of both sides not to lose. Billick was going ape with the officials at the end for not blowing for time. Good entertainment, but I can't help thinking we could still be in there, based on what I've seen, had we not screwed it in qualifying.
The team that beat us pretty comfortable home and away just got knocked out to a side featuring Colin Kazim Richards.

Somehow i think it was a blessing we got knocked out when we did.
FFS Tango, you are repeating the shite that Rednapp spewed about a week ago. Here's a thought, you have qualified for nearly every tournament in the last 20 odd years, have been seeded as a top 8 team in all of those, and yet rarely made it past the last eight, and never made a final even at home.

Yet despite the overwhelming evidence that England are just not as good as they think they are, even now, after not even qualifying, there are some think they could be winning this.

Well gast my flabber. :crazy:

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Post by Hoboh » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:51 am

fatshaft wrote:
Tombwfc wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Must say the Turkish fans were amazing all the match. Never stopped roaring them on right through. Save of the tournament from their goalie too, and from a brilliant free kick. Think the doggedness was more from the great effort of both sides not to lose. Billick was going ape with the officials at the end for not blowing for time. Good entertainment, but I can't help thinking we could still be in there, based on what I've seen, had we not screwed it in qualifying.
The team that beat us pretty comfortable home and away just got knocked out to a side featuring Colin Kazim Richards.

Somehow i think it was a blessing we got knocked out when we did.
FFS Tango, you are repeating the shite that Rednapp spewed about a week ago. Here's a thought, you have qualified for nearly every tournament in the last 20 odd years, have been seeded as a top 8 team in all of those, and yet rarely made it past the last eight, and never made a final even at home.

Yet despite the overwhelming evidence that England are just not as good as they think they are, even now, after not even qualifying, there are some think they could be winning this.

Well gast my flabber. :crazy:
Aye well YOU would say that wouldn't you FS :wink:

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Post by warthog » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:09 pm

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fatshaft wrote:
Tombwfc wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Must say the Turkish fans were amazing all the match. Never stopped roaring them on right through. Save of the tournament from their goalie too, and from a brilliant free kick. Think the doggedness was more from the great effort of both sides not to lose. Billick was going ape with the officials at the end for not blowing for time. Good entertainment, but I can't help thinking we could still be in there, based on what I've seen, had we not screwed it in qualifying.
The team that beat us pretty comfortable home and away just got knocked out to a side featuring Colin Kazim Richards.

Somehow i think it was a blessing we got knocked out when we did.
FFS Tango, you are repeating the shite that Rednapp spewed about a week ago. Here's a thought, you have qualified for nearly every tournament in the last 20 odd years, have been seeded as a top 8 team in all of those, and yet rarely made it past the last eight, and never made a final even at home.

Yet despite the overwhelming evidence that England are just not as good as they think they are, even now, after not even qualifying, there are some think they could be winning this.

Well gast my flabber. :crazy:
Aye well YOU would say that wouldn't you FS :wink:
Aye he would, but he's right. Redknapp claimed that we'd have been contenders after Russia, who qualified at England's expense had been taken apart by Spain. :crazy:

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:30 pm

We can't keep the ball like some of these teams can. Even Greece, Romania who have crashed out are capable of keeping the ball. They move for each other, are comfortable with the piece of leather and protect it at all costs. Sweden played much like we've been playing and they nobbed out as well.

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Post by Athers » Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:01 pm

Agree ginge, Players like Gerrard or Rooney are all-action (and brilliant when things come off) but give the ball away too often, just look how Gerrard and England's midfield were completely outplayed in 3 of the 4 games against Russia & Croatia. England have no-one with the technical ability of an Arshavin or Modric, Joe Cole is about the closest I suppose. Makes you wonder if English midfielders really are suited to the International game, at World Cup '90 England had players like Waddle, Gascoigne, Barnes, Beardsley up front etc. Quite different to the unsuccessful hard shooting and long passing midfield of today.

Croatia has 4m people, poor facilities and have a poor domestic league - yet they still produce a team better than ours, as well as many other top athletes in other sports, makes you wonder what they put in the water. Or what their sporting mentality is...
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:39 pm

Anybody catch those two screamers from Kolodin?
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Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:55 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Anybody catch those two screamers from Kolodin?
Think Van Der Saar got a hand to one...would have been a good catch if he'd have made it.. :|

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Post by Mar » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:09 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Anybody catch those two screamers from Kolodin?
Probably some fans from behind the goal but its not the best time to ask them. They're still watching the game.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:17 pm

Can't really be any complaints from the Dutch there...Beaten, fairly comfortable by the better team.

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Post by warthog » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:39 pm

A deserved victory for Russia. Holland's bottlers strike again.

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:44 pm

I can't believe how lacklustre and low they all looked. None of the spark was there.

Robben's injury was a bad blow, and obviously Boulahrouz's news was very sad, but I don't understand why there was so little life in the team.
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Post by bobby5 » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:13 pm

Gorgeous footy from Russia. I hope Megson was watching :wink:
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:29 pm

Never had Russia in the frame but always fancied a team with a strong defence rather than the attack boys, so no real surprise with Holland.. Croatia gone, but my two other picks : Germany and Italy, I still fancy over the rest. Expect to see Spain go next. I'll stand to be corrected. :wink:
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Post by Tals-biggest-fan » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:25 am

I think now would be a good time to tell you all about my Russian family :D I've been sporting Russia since the start! do hope they win it! Man if Boltons signed Roman Pavlyuchenko, i think i would Cry in joy!
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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:08 am

warthog wrote:A deserved victory for Russia. Holland's bottlers strike again.
Indeed, and now the turn of Spain to bottle tonight as we hurtle towards an Italy - Germany final and an Italian win.

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Post by bobby5 » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:56 am

ffs, please don't let the Italians win this. They have been major shite. Total injustice if they were to succeed.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:24 pm

I want my prediction to be wrong. I want Spain to beat the Italians. Diving, cheating, death agonies and a friendly ref. Spain had two fair penalty shouts so far for me and Silva and Iniesta are impressive in midfield. Spain are fighting much better than in previous years and they can win this. Vamonos Espana! .
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Post by yahoo!mo » Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:03 pm

Italy have been so negative they're playing for penalties hope they don't win.... Viva Espana!
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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:28 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:
warthog wrote:A deserved victory for Russia. Holland's bottlers strike again.
Indeed, and now the turn of Spain to bottle tonight as we hurtle towards an Italy - Germany final and an Italian win.
Quite happy to be proven wrong after that display. How can any team who with 10 mins to go in extra team are happy to pass it around the back four get any sympathy from anyone, including their mums.

I can't call this tournament now. Turkey, Russia neither would surprise me. Maybe Hiddink finally has a team of underdogs capable of doing great things. We'll see

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