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Post by enfieldwhite » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:25 pm

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Kramer wrote:Quite the looker isn't he.......
Not as good looking as Batman though, eh?
Who? :wink:
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:30 pm

Tennis on grass is better than on clay (clay! What next, papier mache?). It would be better still if it weren't mostly about serving for aces. As they say in Nuremberg, I love a good rally, and I believe most folk do (whether they'd describe themselves as fans or not).

So get rid of second serves, nets, all that nonsense. If you don't get it in the right box first time, you lose the point. That might give pause to those trying to serve at 150mph (that's an actual Roddick serve speed, not hyperbole). Just an idea.

And yes, I dislike the aspirational middle-classness of it all - Timmy, strawberries, awfully nice - plus the way Murray's "British" when he wins and "Scottish" when he doesn't. Still, at least "our boys" (and girls) getting regularly battered therein seems to have promoted an acceptance of our relative unimportance on the world scene. Mind, it'd be funny if Sir Cliff reacted to an English/British loss by smashing John McEnroe's face in.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:34 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Tennis on grass is better than on clay (clay! What next, papier mache?). It would be better still if it weren't mostly about serving for aces. As they say in Nuremberg, I love a good rally, and I believe most folk do (whether they'd describe themselves as fans or not).

So get rid of second serves, nets, all that nonsense. If you don't get it in the right box first time, you lose the point. That might give pause to those trying to serve at 150mph (that's an actual Roddick serve speed, not hyperbole). Just an idea.

And yes, I dislike the aspirational middle-classness of it all - Timmy, strawberries, awfully nice - plus the way Murray's "British" when he wins and "Scottish" when he doesn't. Still, at least "our boys" (and girls) getting regularly battered therein seems to have promoted an acceptance of our relative unimportance on the world scene. Mind, it'd be funny if Sir Cliff reacted to an English/British loss by smashing John McEnroe's face in.
Did you not get that the wrong way round DSB? :wink:
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Post by enfieldwhite » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:36 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Tennis on grass is better than on clay (clay! What next, papier mache?). It would be better still if it weren't mostly about serving for aces. As they say in Nuremberg, I love a good rally, and I believe most folk do (whether they'd describe themselves as fans or not).

So get rid of second serves, nets, all that nonsense. If you don't get it in the right box first time, you lose the point. That might give pause to those trying to serve at 150mph (that's an actual Roddick serve speed, not hyperbole). Just an idea.

And yes, I dislike the aspirational middle-classness of it all - Timmy, strawberries, awfully nice - plus the way Murray's "British" when he wins and "Scottish" when he doesn't. Still, at least "our boys" (and girls) getting regularly battered therein seems to have promoted an acceptance of our relative unimportance on the world scene. Mind, it'd be funny if Sir Cliff reacted to an English/British loss by smashing John McEnroe's face in.
Depends if he's talking from Murray's perspective or not TD.

Did you not get that the wrong way round DSB? :wink:
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:47 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Tennis on grass is better than on clay (clay! What next, papier mache?). It would be better still if it weren't mostly about serving for aces. As they say in Nuremberg, I love a good rally, and I believe most folk do (whether they'd describe themselves as fans or not).

So get rid of second serves, nets, all that nonsense. If you don't get it in the right box first time, you lose the point. That might give pause to those trying to serve at 150mph (that's an actual Roddick serve speed, not hyperbole). Just an idea.

And yes, I dislike the aspirational middle-classness of it all - Timmy, strawberries, awfully nice - plus the way Murray's "British" when he wins and "Scottish" when he doesn't. Still, at least "our boys" (and girls) getting regularly battered therein seems to have promoted an acceptance of our relative unimportance on the world scene. Mind, it'd be funny if Sir Cliff reacted to an English/British loss by smashing John McEnroe's face in.
Did you not get that the wrong way round DSB? :wink:
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:50 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Tennis on grass is better than on clay (clay! What next, papier mache?). It would be better still if it weren't mostly about serving for aces. As they say in Nuremberg, I love a good rally, and I believe most folk do (whether they'd describe themselves as fans or not).

So get rid of second serves, nets, all that nonsense. If you don't get it in the right box first time, you lose the point. That might give pause to those trying to serve at 150mph (that's an actual Roddick serve speed, not hyperbole). Just an idea.

And yes, I dislike the aspirational middle-classness of it all - Timmy, strawberries, awfully nice - plus the way Murray's "British" when he wins and "Scottish" when he doesn't. Still, at least "our boys" (and girls) getting regularly battered therein seems to have promoted an acceptance of our relative unimportance on the world scene. Mind, it'd be funny if Sir Cliff reacted to an English/British loss by smashing John McEnroe's face in.
Did you not get that the wrong way round DSB? :wink:
Not at all, friend...
He isn't slow to not be British when it suits him though. :wink:
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:37 pm

Ah - I meant the perception of him among the English. He can call himself what he likes, that's the benefit of this dual nationality thing we've got.

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:57 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Tennis on grass is better than on clay (clay! What next, papier mache?). It would be better still if it weren't mostly about serving for aces. As they say in Nuremberg, I love a good rally, and I believe most folk do (whether they'd describe themselves as fans or not).

So get rid of second serves, nets, all that nonsense. If you don't get it in the right box first time, you lose the point. That might give pause to those trying to serve at 150mph (that's an actual Roddick serve speed, not hyperbole). Just an idea.

And yes, I dislike the aspirational middle-classness of it all - Timmy, strawberries, awfully nice - plus the way Murray's "British" when he wins and "Scottish" when he doesn't. Still, at least "our boys" (and girls) getting regularly battered therein seems to have promoted an acceptance of our relative unimportance on the world scene. Mind, it'd be funny if Sir Cliff reacted to an English/British loss by smashing John McEnroe's face in.
Oh come on, the whole 'Pimm's o'clock' nonsense is brilliant.... :D


And the big serving? Well, you wouldn't be the first to advocate those measures, DSB, but I don't think it's ruined the game yet. When Karlovic was serving like a robot at Queen's against Nadal, it was compelling stuff watching Rafa grind it out.

For me the answer, insofar as one is needed, lies in reining-in the technology in the equipment. All that bigger sweetpots etc. do is neutralise the advantage the genuinely skillful players have.

Oh and Murray - Scottish nice person who can lose in the 1st round as far as I'm concerned....
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:50 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:For me the answer, insofar as one is needed, lies in reining-in the technology in the equipment. All that bigger sweetpots etc. do is neutralise the advantage the genuinely skillful players have.
I was about to suggest lower air pressure in the balls, wooden rackets etc, but thought I may be seen as a Luddite,and anyway I'd got past caring :wink:

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Post by Verbal » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:47 pm

Good on Eaton, beating a man ranked more than 500 places above him.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:11 pm

A fine choice of racket. Carbon graphite, I'd suspect. Superb choice!

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:33 pm

Verbal wrote:Good on Eaton, beating a man ranked more than 500 places above him.
One of the reasons men's tennis is so superior to women's (and I am reluctant to say it given the comments above, but I do actually enjoy the sporting content of some women's tennis :oops: ) is that there is so much depth. Though, in Tursanov, Eaton is facing yet another step up in quality of opponent in the next round, as Tim Henman could tell him.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:45 pm

Feck me, how cringeworthy is this interview with Ivanovic?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/7470890.stm
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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:05 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:A fine choice of racket. Carbon graphite, I'd suspect. Superb choice!

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Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:47 pm

I hate tennis.

Apart from when they are behind the woman serving. I'm always hoping for an Athena-picture moment. It hasn't happened yet.

Maybe thats why they keep it on TV? It can't be for any entertainment value, otherwise they'd have the Dulux international open paint-drying contest live from Blackburn on't box every year...
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Post by ratbert » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:51 pm

And another thing. That 'jolly old times eh old fruit, what' music they always play at the end of the day's coverage. How anachronistic and stereotype reinforcing is it?!

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Post by communistworkethic » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:01 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:A fine choice of racket. Carbon graphite, I'd suspect. Superb choice!

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Post by Daxter » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:11 pm

Big fan of Tennis myself, play regularly too.

Interesting game today with Djokovic taking on Safin. Safin looking something like his former self, and has taken the first set.

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