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communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:45 pm

Verbal wrote:Great fightback from Murray, though had to feel sorry for Gasquet towards the end, he just looked fed up. However, Murray'll be the proverbial lamb to Nadal's slaughter on Wednesday.

like a cheese eating surrender mokey you mean??

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:14 pm

A Nadal masterclass in how to do it; a Murray class in how not to.

Nadal played most of the match against a safety serve due to Murray's inability to make his first serves, the only advantage you get at this level, count. First two sets were a write off, in the third, Murray played a little better but but even in the rallies you always felt the longer they went on that Nadal was taking charge. Murray also managed to hit a few shots that players on Moss-Bank Park would have cringed at. ....And it's all over.

Nadal never seriously troubled, Murray a prospect but some way to go. Decent show overall but Nadal a class apart.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:46 pm

Ancic and Murray - both very good players, both easily dismissed in 3 sets today. Federer and Nadal are on a different level to everyone else... can't wait to see who prevails in the end.

If anyone is going to beat either of them, they need to serve out of their boots, and neither Murray or Ancic did that today.

hisroyalgingerness · Post by **hisroyalgingerness** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:19 pm

Murray lost then. Is anyone remotely surprised?

I just feel like writing to all the red tops and thanking them for wasting 4 pages of every paper yet again for the last week and a bit with their "murry could actually win it" bollocks

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:24 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:Murray lost then. Is anyone remotely surprised?

I just feel like writing to all the red tops and thanking them for wasting 4 pages of every paper yet again for the last week and a bit with their "murry could actually win it" bollocks

It was possible, but Nadal will beat Murray maybe 9/10. As I say, if Murray got off to a good start and was serving at 75% first serves in then he would have stood a chance. But anything less than showing up playing to the very top of your potential just isn't good enough against Nadal, and Murray, while not disgracing himself, will know that he didn't give Nadal the game he should have done today.

FD · Post by FD » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:35 pm

I missed the match but I'm guessing my prediction of Nadal 3-0 Murray was correct?

Murray did well against Gasquet but Nadal is about twenty times the player Murray is.

I actually think Nadal will win it this year...

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:42 pm

FD wrote: I actually think Nadal will win it this year...

I just can't make my mind up. Nadal certainly looks in great nick. I've watched a lot of him recently - most of his matches at the French, all of his matches at Queens, most of his Wimbledon so far... the only very slight weakness that I can see is that his serve hasn't quite got enough heat on it to take many free points off Federer.

Difficult, but for me, Federer is still the favourite. I'd love to see Rafa do it though.

FD · Post by FD » Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:46 pm

I don't like Nadal...I can't put my finger on it.

It may be because when he was younger I just felt he looked unnatural and even now there is a part of me thinking he must be on the 'roids! I know he isn't but I can't help it.

Federer is just a class act and less of a heavy hitter and more of a skillful player, he plays shots that you watch and think "Just how did he do that" whereas I find Nadal just overpowers people with his strength and pace.

Athers · Post by **Athers** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:39 pm

Gutted as I wanted Fed to win, but he lost like a true Champion. If he'd got beat in straight sets that would've been very miserable.

Daxter · Post by **Daxter** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:40 pm

So, Nadal wins an absolutely epic final. The quality in that match was outstanding and the ability of both to hold their nerve under extreme pressure was incredible. Full credit goes to Rafa, though I was devestated for Fed.

If anyone wants to know why Tennis is such a great sport, they need only to watch that match. Sporting theatre of the highest order.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:54 pm

Unbelievable tennis. The only real nervous faltering in the entire match came from the eventual winner - Nadal's two serves in the fourth set tiebreak at 5-2 up. Terrific quality throughout otherwise.

Nadal played the big points brilliantly for the first two sets though and, for my money, deserved the win. Absolutely brilliant, a tremendous sportsman - up there with Woods for succeeding through sheer iron will. Federer actually impressed me hugely as well.

Nadal's backhand is now a tremendous weapon - can he now go away and do something similar to his serve? Only 6 aces to Fed's 25 today. If he could square those numbers up, he would be unstoppable.

warthog · Post by **warthog** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:20 pm

I'm exhausted from just watching that. The best tennis match ever and an example of what sport should be - full of skill, atheticism and sheet guts.

I'm a Federer fan, so a bit gutted that he lost, but you can't begrudge anyone winning a game of that quality. I wish the BBC would recruit someone who can conduct interviews that aren't cringeworthy.

Daxter · Post by **Daxter** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:22 pm

warthog wrote:I'm exhausted from just watching that. The best tennis match ever and an example of what sport should be - full of skill, atheticism and sheet guts.

I'm a Federer fan, so a bit gutted that he lost, but you can't begrudge anyone winning a game of that quality. I wish the BBC would recruit someone who can conduct interviews that aren't cringeworthy.

Yup. That Nadal interview went on far too long and he was just asked a series of useless questions. No need for long drawn out interviews RIGHT after the match, just keep it short and sweet.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:39 pm

and why does nadal have to scream like a granny with a 15inch dildo rammed up her ass everytime he hits the ball?

wovlad · Post by **wovlad** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:55 am

During one of the rain breaks was interesting to see the Federer serve & how things have changed.
They compared two Federer 126kph serves one from 2003 & one form this years. Struck at the same height the 2003 serve went through the air with a few Kph more speed but after it bounced
the 2008 serve lost 10kph more & bounced higher making it easier to return.

So the heavier tennis balls favour the baseliner. Little wonder the commentators said that as things stand they don't expect an out & out serve & volley tactic to win the title for a while.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:05 am

communistworkethic wrote:and why does nadal have to scream like a granny with a 15inch dildo rammed up her ass everytime he hits the ball?

I'll bow to your greater experience.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:26 am

wovlad wrote:During one of the rain breaks was interesting to see the Federer serve & how things have changed.
They compared two Federer 126kph serves one from 2003 & one form this years. Struck at the same height the 2003 serve went through the air with a few Kph more speed but after it bounced
the 2008 serve lost 10kph more & bounced higher making it easier to return.

So the heavier tennis balls favour the baseliner. Little wonder the commentators said that as things stand they don't expect an out & out serve & volley tactic to win the title for a while.

Aye and it is a little dissapointing that a "clay court" game now wins on grass. Ideally each surface should produce a different type of tennis required to win.

Don't get me wrong Nadal was superb (I'd have preferred a Federer win like) and you can't take away what a spectacular match it was. But it seems as though baseliners will prevail on any surface now which is a little sad.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:15 pm

An intermittently brilliant match. To my eyes Nadal deserved it as the sets won by Federer (who conducted himself with great dignity, including remaining grunt-free) were only clinched on the tie-breaks, whereas Nadal broke serve in both the first two sets. Champions both, and I'm intrigued that Mummy reveals Nadal only had six aces to Federer's 25. I realised yesterday what a match full of aces reminds me of: a penalty shoot-out. Fine in its place, but you wouldn't want to watch it for two hours. It's to both men's credit that they played some stunning actual tennis.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:17 pm

So, unfortunately, Murray bites the dust. Good player but the rankings are right. Nadal always looked the stronger and was king of the rallies. Looks like it's his Wimledon. Murray showed flashes of good tennis, but was always chasing it. Nadal exceptional. With Federer out it's difficult to see him losing.

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:25 pm

At least there's no danger of him being caught having the audacity to laugh after letting us all down. Murray never smiles.

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