Pies v Pasties

[Lord Kangana]

Are you looking for a fight?

[CrazyHorse]

Are you looking for a fight?

[Puskas]

Are you looking for a fight?

It's a fair point, though - given the description of a pasty as a single sheet of pastry folded over a filling, doesn't a sausage roll count as a sausage pasty?
It shouldn't - but how would you alter the definition to exclude it, and yet not exclude proper pasties?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I like both. In my time I have had torrid affairs with Hampsons's M&P pies, Greenhalgh's pasties (preferably flaky), Carr's pasties and Holland's pies. Now a Greggs has opened within a mile of my house (joy!), pasties are in the ascendancy. But I see no reason to exclude one in favour of the other, and the "rather have a pastie than a pie" chant is merely humorous ribbing of our neighbours' well-documented taste for that wonderful food. If Wiganers were known for loving ber, I wouldn't boycott it, so why avoid pies?

Mmmm, pies.

PS Yes please, Hoss, I'll have a sausage roll an' all. It's a regular Saturday event for me to take the Barnettas for a walk round town, give them a quid each to wisely spend in charity shops (maths and frugality being two important lessons) then it's Greggs on the way home and "one from every shelf please, love". I have photographic evidence of such panoplies.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Are you looking for a fight?

It's a fair point, though - given the description of a pasty as a single sheet of pastry folded over a filling, doesn't a sausage roll count as a sausage pasty?
It shouldn't - but how would you alter the definition to exclude it, and yet not exclude proper pasties?

A sausage roll is more rolled than folded, though. Like a Swiss roll, but meatier.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Are you looking for a fight?

It's a fair point, though - given the description of a pasty as a single sheet of pastry folded over a filling, doesn't a sausage roll count as a sausage pasty?
It shouldn't - but how would you alter the definition to exclude it, and yet not exclude proper pasties?

A sausage roll is more rolled than folded, though. Like a Swiss roll, but meatier.

True - a pasty has a single fold enclosing the contents, while the pastry is rolled round the sausage several times. Alas, the former is not readily available here.

[Puskas]

Are you looking for a fight?

It's a fair point, though - given the description of a pasty as a single sheet of pastry folded over a filling, doesn't a sausage roll count as a sausage pasty?
It shouldn't - but how would you alter the definition to exclude it, and yet not exclude proper pasties?

A sausage roll is more rolled than folded, though. Like a Swiss roll, but meatier.

True - a pasty has a single fold enclosing the contents, while the pastry is rolled round the sausage several times. Alas, the former is not readily available here.

Seems reasonable.
That would make them topologically equivalent, though. But then, so are donuts and coffee cups, so that shouldn't worry us too much.

[Montreal Wanderer]

It's a fair point, though - given the description of a pasty as a single sheet of pastry folded over a filling, doesn't a sausage roll count as a sausage pasty?
It shouldn't - but how would you alter the definition to exclude it, and yet not exclude proper pasties?

A sausage roll is more rolled than folded, though. Like a Swiss roll, but meatier.

True - a pasty has a single fold enclosing the contents, while the pastry is rolled round the sausage several times. Alas, the former is not readily available here.

Seems reasonable.
That would make them topologically equivalent, though. But then, so are donuts and coffee cups, so that shouldn't worry us too much.

Topology is not my strong suit, but a pasty entirely encloses the contents in a sealed shell, while the sausage can stick out both end of the roll which is a open cylinder rather than a conflated sphere.

[CrazyHorse]

As for the poll, I think it's cruel to make me choose between a pie or a pasty.

[Puskas]

It's a fair point, though - given the description of a pasty as a single sheet of pastry folded over a filling, doesn't a sausage roll count as a sausage pasty?
It shouldn't - but how would you alter the definition to exclude it, and yet not exclude proper pasties?

A sausage roll is more rolled than folded, though. Like a Swiss roll, but meatier.

True - a pasty has a single fold enclosing the contents, while the pastry is rolled round the sausage several times. Alas, the former is not readily available here.

Seems reasonable.
That would make them topologically equivalent, though. But then, so are donuts and coffee cups, so that shouldn't worry us too much.

Topology is not my strong suit, but a pasty entirely encloses the contents in a sealed shell, while the sausage can stick out both end of the roll which is a open cylinder rather than a conflated sphere.

Ah, yes, quite right - I didn't take the holes into account...
As you can guess, topology isn't my strong suit, either.
Hey-ho.

[Bruce Rioja]

I have it down as follows;

A pie lords it over a pastie. However, a pastie on a buttered barm simply bosses any pie you may care to mention. Any pie, that is, with one exception. The steak & kidney offering from the pie shop on the main drag through Kearsley is quite simply the finest baked, savoury, comestible offering upon God's green earth (and probably on any other planet too). Hurrah!

[communistworkethic]

what about shepherds pie, cottage pie or fish pie? no pastry in them at all

[William the White]

Am I the only one who thinks Ye Olde Pastie Shoppe pasties taste like dog food then?

Yep. And their meat pies are some inedible lump of something unspeakable wrapped in pastry as well...

Colemans on Chorley Old Rd beat the meat and potato offerings of any other bakers in the home of the brave.

Neither pies nor pasties can be eaten on a barm without betraying lancastrian origins.

Nowt wrong with that.

[communistworkethic]

who's voting for pies???? are you all wiganers???

Oh I'd rather have a pastie than a pie
Oh I'd rather have a pastie than a pie
Oh I'd rather have a pastie
rather have a pastie
rather have a pastie than a pie

[Lord Kangana]

BUT is it allowed accompanied by a buttered barm (and the ubiquitous cup of tea) William?

[William the White]

BUT is it allowed accompanied by a buttered barm (and the ubiquitous cup of tea) William?

Almost obligatory, LK. Few chips on the buttered barm and a side order of mushy peas, as the healthy option, obviously.

[Lord Kangana]

BUT is it allowed accompanied by a buttered barm (and the ubiquitous cup of tea) William?

Almost obligatory, LK. Few chips on the buttered barm and a side order of mushy peas, as the healthy option, obviously.

Ahh....Lancashires terse response to the Atkins diet

[Leyther_Matt]

Work in Wigan at the moment, and I take great pleasure in getting Pasties!!! Oh yes!!

What he said. Meyt and prater pasty on a barm from Rolling Pin on Ormskirk Road in Newtown (a coin's throw from the Le Stade de Crust). Perfect.

[Tombwfc]

Pasties every day. Why theres even a debate i have no idea. Carrs Pasties are simply one of the great feats of human achievement.

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

Can......not......choose......

Both are as magical and wonderful as each other.