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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:15 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Something new to me Worthy, whats the gen?
According to excerpts from his new book, he was allegedly after Lucas Neill (bit hazy on some specifics as I only heard it on't radio) culminating in two of his mates spotting Neill in the Trafford Centre and ringing him up to see if they should do the deed. The excerpt suggests that had someone else not been present who would have recognised the attackers, it would have been given the OK...

http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2 ... -assaulted

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Post by blurred » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:28 pm

Aye, allegedly a couple of his mates wanted to beat up Lucas Neill after he broke Carra's leg, spotted him in the Trafford Centre and rung up Carra asking if he wanted them to do it. Apparently it was called off because David Thompson was with Neill at the time, or somesuch.
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Post by blurred » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:29 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:"veiled hostility" roughly translated as "p*ssed off cos not considered good enough"?
I think that was the crux of the matter, yes. Constantly being played as a midfielder when you're a centre-half probably didn't help matters, nor being left out in favour of luminaries like Wes Brown and perma-crock Ledley King. I believe those would've had a large deal to do with his decision to quit.

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Post by Tombwfc » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:38 pm

IIRC Carragher also spoke fondly of the time he tried to injure Rigobert Song in training because he reckoned Song didn't think Carragher was international class (which he isn't).

Never has three extracts from a book made someone look as much of a c*nt as those. What a coward of a man. Wasn't prepared to fight for his place in the England side, or indeed fight Song or Lucas Neill.

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Post by Batman » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:42 pm

he was on talksport last night

couldn't understand a feckin word he said

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Post by Puskas » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:03 pm

Tombwfc wrote:IIRC Carragher also spoke fondly of the time he tried to injure Rigobert Song in training because he reckoned Song didn't think Carragher was international class (which he isn't).

Never has three extracts from a book made someone look as much of a c*nt as those. What a coward of a man. Wasn't prepared to fight for his place in the England side, or indeed fight Song or Lucas Neill.
Don't know - Roy Keane's puts him up there. Deliberately injuring Haaland. As just one example of his intense cowardice and tw@tishness - along with walking out on his country because they wouldn't give him preferential superstar treatment, stamping on players on the ground, hiding behind the referee in case they retaliate, and so on.
Not defending the abominable Carragher, mind, merely pointing out that there is at least one other person in the world of football who's as bad...
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Post by Daxter » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:58 pm

blurred wrote:Aye, allegedly a couple of his mates wanted to beat up Lucas Neill after he broke Carra's leg, spotted him in the Trafford Centre and rung up Carra asking if he wanted them to do it. Apparently it was called off because David Thompson was with Neill at the time, or somesuch.
Little midget David Thompson who played for us?

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Post by blurred » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:15 pm

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blurred wrote:Aye, allegedly a couple of his mates wanted to beat up Lucas Neill after he broke Carra's leg, spotted him in the Trafford Centre and rung up Carra asking if he wanted them to do it. Apparently it was called off because David Thompson was with Neill at the time, or somesuch.
Little midget David Thompson who played for us?
If it was the ex-Liverpool and Blackburn midfielder, then yes, the same.

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Post by Daxter » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:16 pm

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blurred wrote:Aye, allegedly a couple of his mates wanted to beat up Lucas Neill after he broke Carra's leg, spotted him in the Trafford Centre and rung up Carra asking if he wanted them to do it. Apparently it was called off because David Thompson was with Neill at the time, or somesuch.
Little midget David Thompson who played for us?
If it was the ex-Liverpool and Blackburn midfielder, then yes, the same.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:54 pm

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I'm hearing whispers that would doubtless cheer up our Rafa no end - that Stevie G is considering "retiring" from international football
Would suit me down to the ground if true. Don't see it as particularly likely, though - he's never had a great deal of contempt for the international side in the same way that Carragher often let slip his veiled hostility to the whole thing.
Of course it would suit you. It would also suit Stevie Me, too. His recent whinge about "only ever being played five times in my favoured position" suggests to me his favourite position is in front of a water carrier, playing as The Best Kid In The Playground. In the world of Stevie, England < Liverpool < Ego. Which is fine when he's retiring from internationals but possibly not if he thinks he can't win a league title with your lot. Not that he'd ever consider leaving again, would he?
blurred wrote:Constantly being played as a midfielder when you're a centre-half probably didn't help matters, nor being left out in favour of luminaries like Wes Brown and perma-crock Ledley King.
Constantly? How many times did he play in midfield? You can't claim he wasn't involved and then claim, perhaps ludicrously, that he was "constantly" played in midfield. So which excuse is it?

As it is I have quite a lot of time for Carra. And if Gerrard retires at least we won't have Henry Winter tw*tting on about him in every England piece, whether he's played or not. I see he might be fit for Saturday's game against that other set of self-obsessed red twunts. There's a shock.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:02 pm

As I remarked not long ago, that famous England shirt is very secondary to the managers' ego stakes, particularly when they happen to be Spanish or Scottish.
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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Of course it would suit you. It would also suit Stevie Me, too. His recent whinge about "only ever being played five times in my favoured position" suggests to me his favourite position is in front of a water carrier, playing as The Best Kid In The Playground. In the world of Stevie, England < Liverpool < Ego. Which is fine when he's retiring from internationals but possibly not if he thinks he can't win a league title with your lot. Not that he'd ever consider leaving again, would he?
Aye, did notice that he'd been counting about where he'd played for England and when (or got someone to count for him). Gerrard does like to be in a key position and doesn't like to be marginalised by playing on the left, which has happened often enough for England, because despite the fact that he's not left-footed, he's arguably England's best player out there (well, behind Joe Cole, who I'd've had there every game for years). For Liverpool I'd rather see him on the right, but that's another debate entirely. Would he walk again? Perhaps, but he's got life pretty sweet at Liverpool and don't see why he'd move in the near future (American cock-ups notwithstanding).
blurred wrote:Constantly being played as a midfielder when you're a centre-half probably didn't help matters, nor being left out in favour of luminaries like Wes Brown and perma-crock Ledley King.
Constantly? How many times did he play in midfield? You can't claim he wasn't involved and then claim, perhaps ludicrously, that he was "constantly" played in midfield. So which excuse is it?[/quote]

When he was picked (going back to his early-mid twenties) he was often played in that defensive midfield role that they wanted to shoehorn him into, or more often at full-back. Towards the end of his international 'career' when he was arguably one of the two best centre halves in England he was consistently overlooked, which when part of the Terry/Ferdinand axis is understandable, but when people like Brown and King and the likes get picked ahead of him I can hardly blame him for wanting away.
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:As it is I have quite a lot of time for Carra. And if Gerrard retires at least we won't have Henry Winter tw*tting on about him in every England piece, whether he's played or not. I see he might be fit for Saturday's game against that other set of self-obsessed red twunts. There's a shock.
I'd quite possibly prefer him not to play on Saturday - while he's our best player, he's also shit out of every game against the Mancs for years. Hasn't had a good game against them since he crashed that rasper in against Barthez back in '02 was it?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:06 pm

I don't believe Rafa will be actively persuading SG to retire, but nor will he try to talk him out of it

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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:37 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I don't believe Rafa will be actively persuading SG to retire, but nor will he try to talk him out of it
No he'll encourage some other Liverpool player to do a newspaper article/column to say how much they'd appreciate Stevie being there all the time and not away on international duty...

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Post by enfieldwhite » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:13 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I don't believe Rafa will be actively persuading SG to retire, but nor will he try to talk him out of it
No he'll encourage some other Liverpool player to do a newspaper article/column to say how much they'd appreciate Stevie being there all the time and not away on international duty...
.......because he's a prick!
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Post by Batman » Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:19 pm

this isn't even funny anymore.

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Post by Hoboh » Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:38 pm

blurred wrote:Aye, allegedly a couple of his mates wanted to beat up Lucas Neill after he broke Carra's leg, spotted him in the Trafford Centre and rung up Carra asking if he wanted them to do it. Apparently it was called off because David Thompson was with Neill at the time, or somesuch.
They'd no chance!!

Everyone knows that when scousers are detected in the Trafford centre all security Cameras follow them!!

Wonder why??? :mrgreen:

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Post by boltonboris » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:15 pm

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Lord Kangana wrote:Something new to me Worthy, whats the gen?
According to excerpts from his new book, he was allegedly after Lucas Neill (bit hazy on some specifics as I only heard it on't radio) culminating in two of his mates spotting Neill in the Trafford Centre and ringing him up to see if they should do the deed. The excerpt suggests that had someone else not been present who would have recognised the attackers, it would have been given the OK...

http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2 ... -assaulted
Fat spotty scrote, I hope he Neill does it again after reading this

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Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:18 pm

Stephen Gerard declared fully fit for tomorrow. Now there's a surprise. :roll:
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Post by jmjhb » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:49 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Stephen Gerard declared fully fit for tomorrow. Now there's a surprise. :roll:
Won't matter, he'll be completely anonymous like he always is in games against Man Utd.

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