Danny Guthrie....what a prick!!!!

FD · Post by FD » Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:52 pm

Apparently there have been talks of charges for bringing the game into disrepute...

BWFC_Wyles · Post by **BWFC_Wyles** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:05 pm

Disgusting challenge and the worst thing for me is those f&&king idiot Geordies applauded him and he applauded back. Sympathy or not, it was absolutely horrendous and if I was Fagan, I'd point blank refuse his offer to apologise in person!

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army · Post by **Soldier_Of_The_White_Army** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:38 pm

The most deliberate assault on a fellow player, since Tony Adams backdropped Steve Morrow!

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:39 pm

Bah it's been removed from YouTube - can't find the bugger anywhere

officer_dibble · Post by **officer_dibble** » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:45 pm

Worthy4England wrote:Bah it's been removed from YouTube - can't find the bugger anywhere

if you do could you post it - aint seen it yet

potter1989bwfc · Post by **potter1989bwfc** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:59 am

Prufrock wrote:
FD wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
FD wrote:Was a bad tackle in my view, but that's all.

I saw a highlight of it last night and I honestly think that's it...it was just a bad tackle.
He had two go's at him though! He wanted to smash him, he did it
Didn't see that...
Yeh first time i saw it i thought i twas just a bad tackle, but he had two goes at him. I still maintain IMO that Guthrie's is different than Thatcher's. I think Guthrie's is worthy of more than a standard 3, but less than the eight Thatcher got. Thatcher's was cold and calculated, Guthrie's was hotheaded and fecking stupid. I'm not defending it, but i think it is different. I also think whether or not Fagan was 'asking for it' is irrelevant.

I think how you view it determines what the punishment should be:

either it was a young man, playing in front of a restless crowd, eager to please, caught up in all the chaos surrounding his joke club, 2-1 down in the 90th minute against a supposedly weaker team, and he has seen a random hull player try to take the ball into the corner to waste time and his frustration has boiled over. That's how i saw it. In which case i think i five game ban and a warning of control your temper or next time we'll throw the book at you.

OR, iv heard Fagan put in a poor tackle on Steven Taylor, and was being a bit of a twonk all game. If the case is Guthrie sees this and went looking for revenge, then yes he deserves the book throwing at him. Cant really see a case for it being more than Thatcher, who's tackle was at least as bad, and who had previous, but i cant remember if Thatcher got an 8 game ban or an additional 8 game ban. If the FA take the view that Guthrie was on a revenge job, i cant see how he could complain at getting somewhere around that 8 game mark. All depends which view you take, and there is evidence to back up either.

couldnt of put it better myself

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army · Post by **Soldier_Of_The_White_Army** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:19 am

potter1989bwfc wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
FD wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
FD wrote:Was a bad tackle in my view, but that's all.

I saw a highlight of it last night and I honestly think that's it...it was just a bad tackle.
He had two go's at him though! He wanted to smash him, he did it
Didn't see that...
Yeh first time i saw it i thought i twas just a bad tackle, but he had two goes at him. I still maintain IMO that Guthrie's is different than Thatcher's. I think Guthrie's is worthy of more than a standard 3, but less than the eight Thatcher got. Thatcher's was cold and calculated, Guthrie's was hotheaded and fecking stupid. I'm not defending it, but i think it is different. I also think whether or not Fagan was 'asking for it' is irrelevant.

I think how you view it determines what the punishment should be:

either it was a young man, playing in front of a restless crowd, eager to please, caught up in all the chaos surrounding his joke club, 2-1 down in the 90th minute against a supposedly weaker team, and he has seen a random hull player try to take the ball into the corner to waste time and his frustration has boiled over. That's how i saw it. In which case i think i five game ban and a warning of control your temper or next time we'll throw the book at you.

OR, iv heard Fagan put in a poor tackle on Steven Taylor, and was being a bit of a twonk all game. If the case is Guthrie sees this and went looking for revenge, then yes he deserves the book throwing at him. Cant really see a case for it being more than Thatcher, who's tackle was at least as bad, and who had previous, but i cant remember if Thatcher got an 8 game ban or an additional 8 game ban. If the FA take the view that Guthrie was on a revenge job, i cant see how he could complain at getting somewhere around that 8 game mark. All depends which view you take, and there is evidence to back up either.
couldnt of put it better myself

Couldn't agree less.

The fact that he'll probably be out less games then Fagan, the guy he assaulted, is justified then is it?

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:20 am

NFA by the FA

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 619485.stm

CrazyHorse · Post by **CrazyHorse** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:30 am

No Fixed Abode?

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:31 am

no
further
action

jesus, the fa are on form this week aren't they

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:51 am

As the caped one says, CH...

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:38 pm

so the FA have chosen to ignore what guthrie did

but are charging moyes and ferguson for having something to say about a ref

madness

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:50 pm

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army wrote:
potter1989bwfc wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
FD wrote:
boltonboris wrote: He had two go's at him though! He wanted to smash him, he did it
Didn't see that...
Yeh first time i saw it i thought i twas just a bad tackle, but he had two goes at him. I still maintain IMO that Guthrie's is different than Thatcher's. I think Guthrie's is worthy of more than a standard 3, but less than the eight Thatcher got. Thatcher's was cold and calculated, Guthrie's was hotheaded and fecking stupid. I'm not defending it, but i think it is different. I also think whether or not Fagan was 'asking for it' is irrelevant.

I think how you view it determines what the punishment should be:

either it was a young man, playing in front of a restless crowd, eager to please, caught up in all the chaos surrounding his joke club, 2-1 down in the 90th minute against a supposedly weaker team, and he has seen a random hull player try to take the ball into the corner to waste time and his frustration has boiled over. That's how i saw it. In which case i think i five game ban and a warning of control your temper or next time we'll throw the book at you.

OR, iv heard Fagan put in a poor tackle on Steven Taylor, and was being a bit of a twonk all game. If the case is Guthrie sees this and went looking for revenge, then yes he deserves the book throwing at him. Cant really see a case for it being more than Thatcher, who's tackle was at least as bad, and who had previous, but i cant remember if Thatcher got an 8 game ban or an additional 8 game ban. If the FA take the view that Guthrie was on a revenge job, i cant see how he could complain at getting somewhere around that 8 game mark. All depends which view you take, and there is evidence to back up either.
couldnt of put it better myself
Couldn't agree less.

The fact that he'll probably be out less games then Fagan, the guy he assaulted, is justified then is it?

To be fair SOTWA i put that as an either/or and i dont think you can just dismiss it as a possibilty. How long Fagan is out for is irrelevant or Martin Taylor would still be bad for a mistimed tackle yet Michael Essien would get away with horror challenges as long as he didnt hurt somebody.

I do think the FA was wrong on this one, he should have a longer ban, but i think calls in the vein of 'ban for life' are OTT. Deoends on which of the either/or you view it as as to how many more games he should be banned for, but i think standard three is out of order.

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:39 pm

Looks like Fagan might be considering legal action...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 89,00.html

Not sure about this course of action. While I can understand why it might be justified in this instance, where would it end? Evra could sue Davo for Post Traumatic Distress maybe? Andranik sues Bolton and Fulham 30 years after retirement because they've both contibuted to him suffering from benchwarmers arse syndrome?

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army · Post by **Soldier_Of_The_White_Army** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:32 pm

Worthy4England wrote:Looks like Fagan might be considering legal action...

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 89,00.html

Not sure about this course of action. While I can understand why it might be justified in this instance, where would it end? Evra could sue Davo for Post Traumatic Distress maybe? Andranik sues Bolton and Fulham 30 years after retirement because they've both contibuted to him suffering from benchwarmers arse syndrome?

This is because he (and other players) obviously don't feel protected by the bungling F.A.

Had the F.A not have bottled it and give Guthrie the punishment his actions deserved, Fagan probably wouldn't have bothered. The F.A cause more problems then they solve!

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:01 pm

Now on youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFDLY2TUWL8

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army · Post by **Soldier_Of_The_White_Army** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:10 pm

Verbal wrote:Now on youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFDLY2TUWL8

Oh, and Nobby just had to be invloved as usual!!

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:53 pm

Glad to see that this fellow's prepared to give us the benefit of his seasoned opinion.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=W0eHezgScPo&NR=1

Soldier_Of_The_White_Army · Post by **Soldier_Of_The_White_Army** » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:10 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Glad to see that this fellow's prepared to give us the benefit of his seasoned opinion.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=W0eHezgScPo&NR=1

I stopped at 'World of Soccer'

FD · Post by FD » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:15 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Glad to see that this fellow's prepared to give us the benefit of his seasoned opinion.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=W0eHezgScPo&NR=1

The guy is only 15 Bruce, give him a break...

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