What are you reading tonight?

Horza · Post by **Horza** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:32 pm

Verbal wrote:Had a walk to Waterstones on my lunchbreak, picked up 'The Road' by Cormac McCarthy. Looking forward to reading it. Anyone else read it?

Yes. Unputdownable. Stop internet. Go. Read.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:49 pm

Horza wrote:
Verbal wrote:Had a walk to Waterstones on my lunchbreak, picked up 'The Road' by Cormac McCarthy. Looking forward to reading it. Anyone else read it?
Yes. Unputdownable. Stop internet. Go. Read.

Will do, looks like the tube won't be too bad today after all

Apparently there is a film version out next month

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:49 am

had a gander through the opening two chapters...does just kind of throw you in there at the deep end. Promising though.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:22 pm

Contemplating a re-read of Ian Gibson's "The Assassination of Federico Garcia Lorca".

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:33 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Contemplating a re-read of Ian Gibson's "The Assassination of Federico Garcia Lorca".

Favourite Lorca, Tango?

Mine is 'Yerma' of his plays.

And I'm at a loss with his poems, there are so many... Do you know the one with the refrain 'Little square, quiet fountain'? I think it's called 'La placeta' but don't have my Lorca collection here.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:14 pm

Undoubtedly, Blood Wedding, but I've read or seen most of his popular stuff. My Spanish isn't perfect but I waded through Romancero Gitano once. Favourite poem is " A ls cinco de la tarde",
the one he wrote when his bulfighteer friend "Ysidro" ? was killed in the ring.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:41 pm

Verbal wrote:
Apparently there is a film version out next month

http://www.quietearth.us/articles/2008/ ... site-found

Holy shit.

Not finished the book yet by the way, its brilliant so far though.

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:56 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Undoubtedly, Blood Wedding, but I've read or seen most of his popular stuff. My Spanish isn't perfect but I waded through Romancero Gitano once. Favourite poem is " A ls cinco de la tarde",
the one he wrote when his bulfighteer friend "Ysidro" ? was killed in the ring.

Yes, 'at five in the afternoon', his most famous poem, and magnificent.

As is Blood Wedding magnificent ... And Bernarda Alba to complete the trilogy of those cruel tragedies... They are all wonderful.

My preference for Yerma comes from feeling it is less formed, less 'planned' than the others...

I just think that maybe Lorca, as a gay man, was tripped up by the thought of never having children, and poured that out into 'Yerma' in the code that was necessary in catholic-ridden Spain of 1934... and produced a geat play about a childless woman... not that 'the code' prevented the church, the rightists, the fascists disrupting almost every performance at its opening production...

Has anyone ever produced a better play around this dilemma? I don't know of one.

The Granada fascists shot Lorca in 1936. The Granada airport is now named after him. To be honest, makes me want to puke.

Errrmmmm... which other bolton wanderers sites allow the discussion of spanish plays of the 20th century?

I've sent you a PM about marquez.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:13 pm

William the White wrote: I've sent you a PM about marquez.

Not got that WTW? .

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:58 pm

Finished 'The Road' in my lunch hour today. Incredible, in a word. Cannot wait to see the film, though with some of the descriptions in the book alone giving me nightmares, god knows what the director will do with them.

Dujon · Post by **Dujon** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:07 am

Geez, I dunno, Verbal; you have the book in your head - all the images formed there from the words of the author - so why would you anticipate pleasure from viewing someone else's interpretation of the book its characters and plot converted to digital/celluloid? Yes, there is a point to me made regarding a different view of any piece of literature and, indeed, it can force one to review one's own perception of such. Nevertheless I have found few fillums which would match that criteria.

Good luck.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:24 pm

Dujon wrote:Geez, I dunno, Verbal; you have the book in your head - all the images formed there from the words of the author - so why would you anticipate pleasure from viewing someone else's interpretation of the book its characters and plot converted to digital/celluloid? Yes, there is a point to me made regarding a different view of any piece of literature and, indeed, it can force one to review one's own perception of such. Nevertheless I have found few fillums which would match that criteria.

Good luck.

I understand, as the film has had nothing to do with my enjoyment of the book

However, having scrabbled around on the internet for tidbits about the film, it does look visually stunning imho. Whether it can live up to the book is another matter - it is one of the few (if only) book(s) I've read which has genuinely shook me.

At the very least, it'll be interesting to see Hillcoat's interpretation of it though.

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:06 pm

Big bumper Faber book of Philip Larkin's Collected Poems.

Only that ornery old bugger could find two apparently oppositional viewpoints (in Toads and Toads Revisited) and complain about both. Masterful use of the language, if not really a bucket of laughs.

Puskas · Post by **Puskas** » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:51 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Big bumper Faber book of Philip Larkin's Collected Poems.

Only that ornery old bugger could find two apparently oppositional viewpoints (in Toads and Toads Revisited) and complain about both. Masterful use of the language, if not really a bucket of laughs.

In the few thousand years that our species has mastered writing, Philip Larkin has managed to pen what are, by some margin, the wisest words ever written:

"Man hands on misery to man.
It deepends like a coastal shelf.
Get out as quickly as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself".

Of the second batch of wise words, some distance behind, Larkin also contributes. "The Old Fools":

"Can they never tell
What is dragging them back, and how it will end? Not at night?
Not when the stangers come? Never, throughout
The whole hideous inverted childhood? Well,
We shall find out."

And that, boys and girls, is what awaits us all.
Right, it's late. I've been up all day.
Time for bed.
Boing.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:27 pm

The Damned Utd, for the train journey.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:56 pm

Verbal wrote:The Damned Utd, for the train journey.

That's on my 'must read' list, that one.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:20 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Verbal wrote:The Damned Utd, for the train journey.
That's on my 'must read' list, that one.

It's so far a very, very good book I must say. Elements of Jekyll and Hyde in it for me, and is starting to show what desire fuelled by revenge can do to a man. Also, as a person with very limited knowledge of football in the 1970s (Derby in the European Cup semis, wtf?), it was also very accessible.

As ever with these things, a film is coming out about it next year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Damned_United

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:59 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Verbal wrote:The Damned Utd, for the train journey.
That's on my 'must read' list, that one.

Get to it, man. Don't expect a light read, though: it's a descent into madness. While steaming through it in about three days, I smoked about 180 cigarettes.

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:19 pm

'Better than sex', and 'Las Vegas Parano'. Id love to say im reading the latter in French for my educational betterment, but tis only coz i couldn't find it in yon anglais over here. Should improve my french knowledge of drugs though

coffeymagic · Post by **coffeymagic** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:35 pm

Plans for tonight. In, tea, kids in bath/out bed and then I shall repair to the study to make a start on Archangel by Robert Harris. Have heard some good revies so quite looking forward to it.

Enrazzlement is in the next issue of Viz. Can't wait for that either.

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