Benitez .... prick

[Zulus Thousand of em]

All boils down to Benitez being a prick - sadly.

[jimbo]

When did Gerrard injure himself on Saturday? This musscle strain that will keep him out for the international on Wednesday had better not stop him playing a key role in Liverpool's next league game!

Benitez = prick

[bobo the clown]

Going back the the very reasonsomeone started this thread ...

I know there's probably other threads with tyhis theme ... & quite rightly ... but I thought "new season, new start".

Quote:
Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez has told McClaren he cannot pick Steven Gerrard, even though he will play for the Reds on Sunday. (Mail)

So ... Stephen Gerrard, a truly high class player, despite being an outrageous diver and not afraid to go in two footed or late, or over the ball ... gets injured in a game.

A fuss is made & it looks like he'll miss a few matches. But Liverpool have a massive game at the weekend.

So, Mr Benitez's solution ??? Well, it seems Gerrad will be fit to play at the weekend, but will NOT be fit to play in midweek in a friendly for England.

Just, exactly, HOW does that work ??

Apparently, the logic is ... ''... if he trains and plays more games after that it will be a bigger risk. We know you cannot push a player too much; for one game it is okay - for more it is a risk."

Personally ... & call me bad minded ... I hope he plays & damages it more. The only downside of that is that England may suffer, but frankly, that's necessary for McClaren to be seen as the pointless tosser he is. Get McClaren out ... watch BFSA tout himself (pointlessly) for the job & watch the bar-code fans turn on him for disloyalty. Seems like a plan to me.

Looks like the only thing that's changed is that the new manager is willing to, effectively, call Benitez a liar.

Maybe Fabio is aware of the thread !

[H. Pedersen]

I saw an article on the BBC that said Robbie Keane withdrew from the Ireland squad due to "injury." When did this happen? He looked pissed and confused when he was substituted against us. Naturally, he'll be fit to play for Liverpool this weekend though.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/18112008/ ... rious.html

Somebody should dock them points, lying pricks.

[Lord Kangana]

I'm guessing you mean "pissed off" H.P., otherwise we'll be wandering into all types of Irish footballer stereotypes

[Montreal Wanderer]

I'm guessing you mean "pissed off" H.P., otherwise we'll be wandering into all types of Irish footballer stereotypes

Yes, that would be the correct translation according to my American-English dictionary. Mind you, he could have had a couple as well.

[H. Pedersen]

Correct, "pissed off" it is.

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When did Gerrard injure himself on Saturday? This musscle strain that will keep him out for the international on Wednesday had better not stop him playing a key role in Liverpool's next league game!

Benitez = prick

It would explain why he was absolutely garbage against you lot at the weekend, if he was playing with an injury. Me and my mate thought that he'd been out on the piss the night before, because he had a bit of a shocker. Wouldn't surprise me if this was a pre-existing thing and he played through it - Benitez could've rested him against you and he'd've been fit for England, or he can play him through the pain against you which'll render him not fit enough to play for England. Right decision for me.

And why all the anger? Ferguson's been doing this for years and years with his players, especially for the friendlies.

[enfieldwhite]

When did Gerrard injure himself on Saturday? This musscle strain that will keep him out for the international on Wednesday had better not stop him playing a key role in Liverpool's next league game!

Benitez = prick

It would explain why he was absolutely garbage against you lot at the weekend, if he was playing with an injury. Me and my mate thought that he'd been out on the piss the night before, because he had a bit of a shocker. Wouldn't surprise me if this was a pre-existing thing and he played through it - Benitez could've rested him against you and he'd've been fit for England, or he can play him through the pain against you which'll render him not fit enough to play for England. Right decision for me.

And why all the anger? Ferguson's been doing this for years and years with his players, especially for the friendlies.

He's not injured, he's disinterested. Club before country and all that. He'll play Saturday, I guarantee.

I'm afraid you're defending the indefensible, B.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I'm afraid you're defending the indefensible, B.

The player - yes, the manager - no.

It's Benitez's job to do everything he can to further Liverpool's interests. Anything less, and he's not doing his job properly.

Gerrard, on the other hand, is an unimpressive individual.

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He's not injured, he's disinterested. Club before country and all that. He'll play Saturday, I guarantee.

I'm afraid you're defending the indefensible, B.

I take it you're a medical expert and have seen the various scans, xrays and whatnot, then? Or if he doesn't play on Saturday you'll take back what you've said? I dunno.

Also, just a quick question which I'd like a proper answer to - why should he put country before club?

[Lord Kangana]

When did Gerrard injure himself on Saturday? This musscle strain that will keep him out for the international on Wednesday had better not stop him playing a key role in Liverpool's next league game!

Benitez = prick

It would explain why he was absolutely garbage against you lot at the weekend, if he was playing with an injury. Me and my mate thought that he'd been out on the piss the night before, because he had a bit of a shocker. Wouldn't surprise me if this was a pre-existing thing and he played through it - Benitez could've rested him against you and he'd've been fit for England, or he can play him through the pain against you which'll render him not fit enough to play for England. Right decision for me.

And why all the anger? Ferguson's been doing this for years and years with his players, especially for the friendlies.

We get angry with Ferguson aswell, two wrongs not making a right an all that.

[CrazyHorse]

Also, just a quick question which I'd like a proper answer to - why should he put country before club?

The fact you even feel the need to ask that question means you're incapable of understanding the answer - because he should.

[Hoboh]

He's not injured, he's disinterested. Club before country and all that. He'll play Saturday, I guarantee.

I'm afraid you're defending the indefensible, B.

I take it you're a medical expert and have seen the various scans, xrays and whatnot, then? Or if he doesn't play on Saturday you'll take back what you've said? I dunno.

Also, just a quick question which I'd like a proper answer to - why should he put country before club?

Youre right, being Scouse don't qualify you as being English, a Patrick maybe but not English!

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Also, just a quick question which I'd like a proper answer to - why should he put country before club?

The fact you even feel the need to ask that question means you're incapable of understanding the answer - because he should.

I'm posing it because I'd like to hear a decent answer to it. I've never heard one. I'm not looking to be swayed, or to 'understand' the answer (whatever that means), or become a zealous convert and a fervent nationalist, I'd just like someone to explain it. Yours above of 'because he should' isn't a logical or reasoned answer.

[enfieldwhite]

He's not injured, he's disinterested. Club before country and all that. He'll play Saturday, I guarantee.

I'm afraid you're defending the indefensible, B.

I take it you're a medical expert and have seen the various scans, xrays and whatnot, then? Or if he doesn't play on Saturday you'll take back what you've said? I dunno.

Also, just a quick question which I'd like a proper answer to - why should he put country before club?

No, I'm not. I believe, though that one of the FA doctors who examined Gerrard is also on the medical staff at Liverpool. Would an examination of said players injury have been more rigorous if this were not the case?

If he doesn't play on Saturday I will, indeed take back what I posted. My apology maybe somewhat muffled though, as I will be concurrently attempted to ingest some head furniture.

However, I will just say this isn't the first time it's happened and I wish Stevie Me would be as honest about his loyalties as Jamie Carragher.

[warthog]

Mid-season international friendlies are the most pointless games in football. I don't blame managers one bit for not wanting their players to take part - especially ones who have have a heavy fixture load.

[enfieldwhite]

Mid-season international friendlies are the most pointless games in football. I don't blame managers one bit for not wanting their players to take part - especially ones who have have a heavy fixture load.

Is a valid point. So why aren't we all just a bit more honest then and Capello can pick fringe players for a runout?

Instead we have this pantomime of players dropping out with niggling injuries (Theo Walcott excepted)

[CrazyHorse]

Also, just a quick question which I'd like a proper answer to - why should he put country before club?

The fact you even feel the need to ask that question means you're incapable of understanding the answer - because he should.

I'm posing it because I'd like to hear a decent answer to it. I've never heard one. I'm not looking to be swayed, or to 'understand' the answer (whatever that means), or become a zealous convert and a fervent nationalist, I'd just like someone to explain it. Yours above of 'because he should' isn't a logical or reasoned answer.

There is no decent answer, there is no logic, there is no reasoning. "Because he should" is the answer. It just is.
I can expand it slightly if it'll help (which it won't) - either put your country first or opt out of playing for it.

[Hoboh]

Mid-season international friendlies are the most pointless games in football. I don't blame managers one bit for not wanting their players to take part - especially ones who have have a heavy fixture load.

The size of squads some of these "poor ole Managers" have beggers belief anyway! they should shut up and get on with it (and I am only talking England here)