Nolan's not dancing to the right Toon
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Nolan's not dancing to the right Toon
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Isn't this a familiar thread. Former Capt Kev is being found to be wanting by the Toon faithful. Such a prime example how a career can turn soft and smelly so quickly..i just hope he has a get out clause in his contract because he deserves better than Championship football
Isn't this a familiar thread. Former Capt Kev is being found to be wanting by the Toon faithful. Such a prime example how a career can turn soft and smelly so quickly..i just hope he has a get out clause in his contract because he deserves better than Championship football
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Just to be consistent I have always believed that Nolan wasn't good enough for the Premiership and certainly never good enough for England.
He has always been as slow as a cart horse, and had very poor feet which means that he can't control the ball, run with it under control, beat a man or pass it accurately to one of his one players with any consistency. He has at various times demonstrated that on the odd occasion that he could do those things but it was so rare and getting rarer that he had become a liability in any Premiership team. As Newcastle fans are finding out. 4m was a very very good fee to receive for someone of his lack of ability.
His one saving grace used to be that even though he was slow he could on the odd occasion get himself in the penalty box at the right time and his finishing was sharp enough to score a few goals. But in recent seasons that ability happened on fewer and fewer occasions such that his benefit to the team had become an embarassment. His obvious weight problem is also a mystery in today's high tech sports science environments that most players operate in these days.
Overall his one advantage, 10 goals a season, has now totally gone and his weight is slowing him down to an almost standstill. I like the lad but his skills and abilities are very limited and unless he can beat the flab he will never get back to his better days.
He has always been as slow as a cart horse, and had very poor feet which means that he can't control the ball, run with it under control, beat a man or pass it accurately to one of his one players with any consistency. He has at various times demonstrated that on the odd occasion that he could do those things but it was so rare and getting rarer that he had become a liability in any Premiership team. As Newcastle fans are finding out. 4m was a very very good fee to receive for someone of his lack of ability.
His one saving grace used to be that even though he was slow he could on the odd occasion get himself in the penalty box at the right time and his finishing was sharp enough to score a few goals. But in recent seasons that ability happened on fewer and fewer occasions such that his benefit to the team had become an embarassment. His obvious weight problem is also a mystery in today's high tech sports science environments that most players operate in these days.
Overall his one advantage, 10 goals a season, has now totally gone and his weight is slowing him down to an almost standstill. I like the lad but his skills and abilities are very limited and unless he can beat the flab he will never get back to his better days.
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He is a decent & honest human being (for a footballer) and he truly wore his heart on his sleeve. But it did seem that he'd been found out and we all had accepted that his bad run had gone on for 2 or 3 years ... which makes t more about ability than form.
Never a big believer in him being actually fat, but he wasn't exactly trim either.
I did hope that a move would do him good .... though Newcastle isn't exactly reknowned for people remaking theiir careers, more for people's careers collapsing. The Toon-Army (greatest fans in the land) will turn on him & never give him a chance and it's clear that he needs to be loved. Hull by August I reckon ... or Samburn.
From our point of view, proving his doubters correct ... we've not exactly missed him, have we ? ... and if he'd begun to be seen as a disruption, which some reports suggest, then it's been positive.
One things for sure, if his major contribution had become that of leader/captain it seems that SKD has replaced him and some, PLUS he's tld the lie to the usual claim that the captaincy can reduce your form.
Never a big believer in him being actually fat, but he wasn't exactly trim either.
I did hope that a move would do him good .... though Newcastle isn't exactly reknowned for people remaking theiir careers, more for people's careers collapsing. The Toon-Army (greatest fans in the land) will turn on him & never give him a chance and it's clear that he needs to be loved. Hull by August I reckon ... or Samburn.
From our point of view, proving his doubters correct ... we've not exactly missed him, have we ? ... and if he'd begun to be seen as a disruption, which some reports suggest, then it's been positive.
One things for sure, if his major contribution had become that of leader/captain it seems that SKD has replaced him and some, PLUS he's tld the lie to the usual claim that the captaincy can reduce your form.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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The whole Nolan to Newcastle thang can perhaps be summed up by my telling of a brief exchange at work. Our FD, a lifelong Newcastle fan, walked into our office with a smug grin on his face and said to me "Oh, sorry for signing your best player". I did, of course, put him straight, which was met with a call of "sour grapes".


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I like Nolan. He played with his heart for Bolton, on the other hand, I was not unhappy that he went to Newcastle as I don't think he was helping the team enough in the end. If he had been able to score a few goals it would have been a different matter but he just couldn't finish. This season will certainly be one of the sad moments in his career though if Newcastle go down. He is the only reason for me to not want them to go down, but even Nolan is not enough of a reason.
Eh?Bruce Rioja wrote:The whole Nolan to Newcastle thang can perhaps be summed up by my telling of a brief exchange at work. Our FD, a lifelong Newcastle fan, walked into our office with a smug grin on his face and said to me "Oh, sorry for signing your best player". I did, of course, put him straight, which was met with a call of "sour grapes".
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I'd be surprised if it wasn't their Finance DirectorFD wrote:Eh?Bruce Rioja wrote:The whole Nolan to Newcastle thang can perhaps be summed up by my telling of a brief exchange at work. Our FD, a lifelong Newcastle fan, walked into our office with a smug grin on his face and said to me "Oh, sorry for signing your best player". I did, of course, put him straight, which was met with a call of "sour grapes".

Kevin Nolan is a top bloke and he gave 100% for Bolton. Unfortunately his 100% wasn't really good enough over the past couple of years.
To get the fee we got for him was a brilliant piece of business and to replace him with Mark Davies will also turn out to be a good move.
Nolan, meanwhile, got his move to a big club where he "can win things!" Maybe they'll win the Fizzy Pop league next season?
To get the fee we got for him was a brilliant piece of business and to replace him with Mark Davies will also turn out to be a good move.
Nolan, meanwhile, got his move to a big club where he "can win things!" Maybe they'll win the Fizzy Pop league next season?

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To be fair I don't think Nolan wanted to move anywhere, certainly not Newcastle!Old Trafford wrote:Kevin Nolan is a top bloke and he gave 100% for Bolton. Unfortunately his 100% wasn't really good enough over the past couple of years.
To get the fee we got for him was a brilliant piece of business and to replace him with Mark Davies will also turn out to be a good move.
Nolan, meanwhile, got his move to a big club where he "can win things!" Maybe they'll win the Fizzy Pop league next season?
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