Whacko Jacko

[David Lee's Hair]

There are bad parent in the world though FD who really don't care about such things.


The fact that he was not right in the head was going to mean that he was always going to be a magnet for those few or far betweens. Just look at the Arvizo accusations he didn't pay out of court for. A parent who had pretty much purposely let her child be in his company to get money out of him at a later date, whether he'd done something or not. Would a good parent do that?

So goes to figure that a bad parent would accept $22m to settle out of court as well.

[Montreal Wanderer]

I think they are few and far between mate, sorry.

You are talking about SEXUAL ASSAULT on a child, and that the parent is willing to accept a payment for such a crime, that makes them pratically complicit in the act for me.,

Also, it's not about princibles, I'm a father, there is NO money on earth that would pay me off for somone abusing my child. Even if I could accept my child would need therapy and we'd be rich, I could never live with the guilt of letting that person go free.

Whether he went free or not would be entirely beyond your control. In the first place you would have allowed your child to be in that position (which I am sure you personally would not have done). Your child would have to testify (which would be extremely traumatic). His lawyer would be a lot better than the DA. He would probably get off because there would be reasonable doubt. So you would have put your child through a further horrible experience and got nothing. Nor achieved anything. I wouldn't dismiss a settlement quite frankly and I have four children. If I could be guaranteed of a trial result it might be different, but I would think long and hard before putting my child on the stand, especially for cross-examination.

[Prufrock]

If the courts say he's innocent, then that's good enough for me. Can't be doing with the 'trial by media' bollocks, whereby even being found not guilty isn't enough to prove you're innocence.

Anyway, I just think the whole thing is sad. He made fantastic music, and yet appears to have lived a life that has been, for a sizeable chunk of it, miserable.

Bang on, as far as I'm concerned looking a bit rapey isn't grounds for deciding he's a kiddy fiddler.

First thing I said this morning, to my dad, were 'this is gonna be Diana mkII'. Supremely talented bloke, and so very influential, but idiots blubbing into a TV camera about a bloke they never met, or knew winds me up. Day for sad reflection about a musical icon.

Tell thee what though, piss easy day if you are a radio DJ. Itunes>Michael Jackson>Select All>Shuffle>Play>Go home.

[Puskas]

If the courts say he's innocent, then that's good enough for me. Can't be doing with the 'trial by media' bollocks, whereby even being found not guilty isn't enough to prove you're innocence.

Anyway, I just think the whole thing is sad. He made fantastic music, and yet appears to have lived a life that has been, for a sizeable chunk of it, miserable.

Bang on, as far as I'm concerned looking a bit rapey isn't grounds for deciding he's a kiddy fiddler.

First thing I said this morning, to my dad, were 'this is gonna be Diana mkII'. Supremely talented bloke, and so very influential, but idiots blubbing into a TV camera about a bloke they never met, or knew winds me up. Day for sad reflection about a musical icon.

Tell thee what though, piss easy day if you are a radio DJ. Itunes>Michael Jackson>Select All>Shuffle>Play>Go home.

But what if it isn't there?

I just looked, and it leaps straight from Mercury Rev to Michael Moorcock and The Deep Fix.

I'm stuffed.

[enfieldwhite]

If the courts say he's innocent, then that's good enough for me. Can't be doing with the 'trial by media' bollocks, whereby even being found not guilty isn't enough to prove you're innocence.

Anyway, I just think the whole thing is sad. He made fantastic music, and yet appears to have lived a life that has been, for a sizeable chunk of it, miserable.

Bang on, as far as I'm concerned looking a bit rapey isn't grounds for deciding he's a kiddy fiddler.

First thing I said this morning, to my dad, were 'this is gonna be Diana mkII'. Supremely talented bloke, and so very influential, but idiots blubbing into a TV camera about a bloke they never met, or knew winds me up. Day for sad reflection about a musical icon.

Tell thee what though, piss easy day if you are a radio DJ. Itunes>Michael Jackson>Select All>Shuffle>Play>Go home.

Jesus Pru, Freudian slip of the day or what!

[Prufrock]

If the courts say he's innocent, then that's good enough for me. Can't be doing with the 'trial by media' bollocks, whereby even being found not guilty isn't enough to prove you're innocence.

Anyway, I just think the whole thing is sad. He made fantastic music, and yet appears to have lived a life that has been, for a sizeable chunk of it, miserable.

Bang on, as far as I'm concerned looking a bit rapey isn't grounds for deciding he's a kiddy fiddler.

First thing I said this morning, to my dad, were 'this is gonna be Diana mkII'. Supremely talented bloke, and so very influential, but idiots blubbing into a TV camera about a bloke they never met, or knew winds me up. Day for sad reflection about a musical icon.

Tell thee what though, piss easy day if you are a radio DJ. Itunes>Michael Jackson>Select All>Shuffle>Play>Go home.

Jesus Pru, Freudian slip of the day or what!

S'what I meant squire, tis a Franky Boyle-ism. And if anyone ever did look rapey, it was Mr Jackson. Him ageing would have been weiiiiiiiirrrrd.

And Puskas, what would happen then is you'd be my radio DJ of choice. I quite like Jackson, but I must have heard his entire back catalogue at least three times today. That and idiots and their reckonings. I don't care what they think. A bloke, albeit talented died, can we have less of a media shitstorm, and less of that scourge of modern times, collective grief.

[CrazyHorse]

Not particularly a fan of his music but it was harmless none offensive pop; despite growing up in the 80s where it was all around me. There's no denying he was very talented, shrewd and brilliant at what he did.

But I thought he was a weirdo and sometimes acted like a tosser (dangling his kid over that balcony for example).

Plus I'm of the opinion that while he was innocent of the accusations levelled at him there is still something fishy and extremely disturbing about the whole sorry affair.

However, I'm shocked at how I reacted to the news. Honestly, I was a bit shaken up by it all at first. Genuinely saddened and I don't even know why; like I said I wasn't particularly a fan of his. Once again the poor kids now grow up without their father.

Worst thing now though will be the aftermath. All kinds of stories will come out, and the media will drag this one out for months. This decade's Diana.

[InsaneApache]

He died skint apparently. What a mug.

[CrazyHorse]

He died skint apparently. What a mug.

Yeah. Despite being one of the biggest selling artists ever he still managed to spend it quicker than it was coming in. Unbelievable.

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

Great musician up until he became a Messianic nutjob.

[TANGODANCER]

He died skint apparently. What a mug.

Yeah. Despite being one of the biggest selling artists ever he still managed to spend it quicker than it was coming in. Unbelievable.

Or he had an army of advisors who spent it for him Hoss?

The guy's nothing in my life. I thought he was a good entertainer but beyond that he was just a media darling grade A. Even the wastrel queen of the planet, Paris Hilton, said ninety percent of what you read in newspapers is hype, bullshit or pure imagination. Just for once I tend to agree with her. No doubt Jacko will get the same posthumously for at least a month.

[Tombwfc]

He died skint apparently. What a mug.

Yeah. Despite being one of the biggest selling artists ever he still managed to spend it quicker than it was coming in. Unbelievable.

That along with a looming $40mil lawsuit and the money he'd have no doubt had to pay out had he decided he was unable to do the London shows, will keep both the suicide and "He faked his own death and I saw him in Tesco in West Bromwich" theories going for a while yet.

Like I said, even though I didn't know him, I do think the whole thing is horribly sad. He influenced tons of artists, made millions of people happy with his music, and ended up broke and fecking miserable.

[Montreal Wanderer]

He died skint apparently. What a mug.

Yeah. Despite being one of the biggest selling artists ever he still managed to spend it quicker than it was coming in. Unbelievable.

That along with a looming $40mil lawsuit and the money he'd have no doubt had to pay out had he decided he was unable to do the London shows, will keep both the suicide and "He faked his own death and I saw him in Tesco in West Bromwich" theories going for a while yet.

Like I said, even though I didn't know him, I do think the whole thing is horribly sad. He influenced tons of artists, made millions of people happy with his music, and ended up broke and fecking miserable.

I heard that he had recently passed a fitness test so that Lloyds would insure him against problems with the London (I think) show.

[FD]

He died skint apparently. What a mug.

Yeah. Despite being one of the biggest selling artists ever he still managed to spend it quicker than it was coming in. Unbelievable.

That along with a looming $40mil lawsuit and the money he'd have no doubt had to pay out had he decided he was unable to do the London shows, will keep both the suicide and "He faked his own death and I saw him in Tesco in West Bromwich" theories going for a while yet.

Like I said, even though I didn't know him, I do think the whole thing is horribly sad. He influenced tons of artists, made millions of people happy with his music, and ended up broke and fecking miserable.

...and again I agree.

[a1]

i'll bet it was george bush's fault .

[Prufrock]

However, I'm shocked at how I reacted to the news. Honestly, I was a bit shaken up by it all at first. Genuinely saddened and I don't even know why; like I said I wasn't particularly a fan of his. Once again the poor kids now grow up without their father.

Worst thing now though will be the aftermath. All kinds of stories will come out, and the media will drag this one out for months. This decade's Diana.

100% on. Something went wrong with his internal wiring. So much talent, yet as Tom has said, never ever looked happy. His father has a lot to answer for.

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

Not particularly a fan of his music but it was harmless none offensive pop; despite growing up in the 80s where it was all around me. There's no denying he was very talented, shrewd and brilliant at what he did.

But I thought he was a weirdo and sometimes acted like a tosser (dangling his kid over that balcony for example).

Plus I'm of the opinion that while he was innocent of the accusations levelled at him there is still something fishy and extremely disturbing about the whole sorry affair.

However, I'm shocked at how I reacted to the news. Honestly, I was a bit shaken up by it all at first. Genuinely saddened and I don't even know why; like I said I wasn't particularly a fan of his. Once again the poor kids now grow up without their father.

Worst thing now though will be the aftermath. All kinds of stories will come out, and the media will drag this one out for months. This decade's Diana.

You see, the twisted part of my brain has actually reacted in a way to think "thank the Lord this has outdone Jade". The cynical part of my brain has said "yet another day for the mawkish to mourn - it didn't take long for the Diana analogies to surface". The reasonable part of it has said "50's no age, he might have been a freakshow with a lot of dodgy innuendo going on, but at least you can see why he was a massive influence on a lot of lives".

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

Incidentally, is every death of a "modern popular culture" celebrity going to be met by the "new Diana" stuff? We had it with Jade Goody, who served up nothing more than to show those with independent thought how crass and shallow the nation had become. Now we have it with Michael Jackson, a highly influential figure whose massive flaws and alleged serious crimes were swept under a dove-covered carpet by goggle eyed sycophants and faux worshippers seriously giving him a God complex. And is it more crass to be easy with the fact that people are going "right, we thought the premature death of someone famous in a car crash was big, 'ow's about THIS one for rolling out the News channels?!" and trying to make a living out of it, than it is to actually be dishing out blanket coverage of someone's death?

[officer_dibble]

Shame really, he's had his life shortened by being f*cked about by some shoddy parenting, too much too young, the 'trial by media' and whatever else has happened that was behind his behaviour.

I'm niot convinced there was an evil bone in his body, and I'm happy to leave it like that.

He made great music loved by all.

C'est la vie.

[Lord Kangana]

You've got to fill the airwaves with something to fill peoples heads with for them to come back for more. Its a virtuous circle.