What are you watching tonight?

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:38 am

Prufrock wrote:Since everyone has been raving about this Psychoville, I thought I'd check it out. Found it just like League of Gentlemen....absolute pish. About as funny as Jo Brand.

Heretic!

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:47 am

General Mannerheim wrote:who saw Dawn Porter with her cans out the other night!?!?

oh aye!!!!

She's rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruff!

General Mannerheim · Post by **General Mannerheim** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:21 am

Bruno wrote:
General Mannerheim wrote:who saw Dawn Porter with her cans out the other night!?!?

oh aye!!!!

She's rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrruff!

queer

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:23 am

I was gonna post the topless photo

Dave Sutton's barnet · Post by **Dave Sutton's barnet** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:39 am

Dawn Porter exposed her breasts? I'd've expected more decorum from the serious journalist who came to prominence through Balls of Steel, Super Slim Me, How to Look Good Naked, Dawn Porter: Free Lover, Dawn Porter: Mail Order Bride, Dawn Porter: Geisha Girl and Dawn Porter: Polygamist's Wife.

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:49 am

Someone's jealous!

BWFC_Wyles · Post by **BWFC_Wyles** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:07 am

Dawn Porter can get her norks out for me ANYDAY! The programme "My Breasts Could Kill Me" was really upsetting....but she kept getting them out and I loved it!

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:10 am

Shaft, with Samuel L Jackson.

An embarrassing, shameful film, reinforcing old and stale racial stereotypes, mixed in with the usual rubbish Jackson acting.

Avoid.

jimbo · Post by **jimbo** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:55 am

Psychoville was brilliant again last night. Loved the David half hour special.

'Well my husband used to hit me, like they did before there was telly'. Classic

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:56 am

jimbo wrote:Psychoville was brilliant again last night. Loved the David half hour special.

'Well my husband used to hit me, like they did before there was telly'. Classic

Agreed, it went over my head to start til I clocked the Hitchcock theme.

"Freudian clit"

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:19 pm

Just watched a realy interesting documentary on BBC 2. Love these history programmes and this was about the Irish Celtic missionaries and their bringing of literacy and technology to Scotland and England via Christianity. Iona, Lindisfarne, Book of Kells were all included in an interesting summary of life in the dark ages. Good stuff.

General Mannerheim · Post by **General Mannerheim** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:45 pm

just seen Bruno!

honestly so much better than i expected - fooking hilarious!!!

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:12 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Just watched a realy interesting documentary on BBC 2. Love these history programmes and this was about the Irish Celtic missionaries and their bringing of literacy and technology to Scotland and England via Christianity. Iona, Lindisfarne, Book of Kells were all included in an interesting summary of life in the dark ages. Good stuff.

Probably taken from the book How the Irish saved civilization, which struck me as a little overstated though learning and manuscripts were certainly preserved. What new technologies did the program claim they brought to England during the Dark Ages, Tango?

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:44 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Just watched a realy interesting documentary on BBC 2. Love these history programmes and this was about the Irish Celtic missionaries and their bringing of literacy and technology to Scotland and England via Christianity. Iona, Lindisfarne, Book of Kells were all included in an interesting summary of life in the dark ages. Good stuff.
Probably taken from the book How the Irish saved civilization, which struck me as a little overstated though learning and manuscripts were certainly preserved. What new technologies did the program claim they brought to England during the Dark Ages, Tango?

Sounds like a visual version of the book you mentioned Monty. Part One of a two part series by Dan Snow. You can catch it here if you're interested:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00kt9v9

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:17 pm

Director's Cut of Troy - let's hope it mirrors the DC of Kingdom of Heaven, which turned it into a good film.

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:06 pm

Watched 90 mins of BBC 2 on Robespierre - Demonstrated once more how useless a historian Simon Scharma is. One string to his bow, a set of liberal eternal verities with which to judge the 'failures' of history - try analysing history instead of sitting as a judge on it, FFS!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:27 pm

William the White wrote:Watched 90 mins of BBC 2 on Robespierre - Demonstrated once more how useless a historian Simon Scharma is. One string to his bow, a set of liberal eternal verities with which to judge the 'failures' of history - try analysing history instead of sitting as a judge on it, FFS!

Coincidental that WTW, I read somewhere not very long ago that "historians should uncover history, not judge it".

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:27 pm

I like Simon Scharma,he accompanies me on most long car journeys.

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:42 pm

Spot on, Tango - historians have to place historical analysis within the actual historical events of the period they investigate... there was very little attempt in this programme to place Robespierre and the Committe of Public Safety within the actual context of a revolution... You would think this would be ABC for a historian...

Scharma seems to think it adequate to shudder with horror. Yes the revolution did horrible things. Contextualise it, or you are no historian - you end up with a Bush view of this horrible place weith 'bad people' in charge. Infantile. Mantel was even worse in the programme, managing to reduce 'analysis' of the Terror to an accidental accumulation of warped personalities - in this she mirrored the thesis of the programme...

LK... Scharma is articulate, humane, persuasive...

Doesn't make him worth sh*t as a historian...

Though may well help wile away empty hours on a motorway...

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:58 pm

A great deal of character assessment in history, in fact most of it, is based on nothing more than supposition. Today's historians are doing little more than take as gospel things written down by the same people doing it years ago. They can't really do much more than take probablity over possiblity that there is total truth in their investigations. Historical wars, much like today, are rarely really about heroes, more about power and greed. Usually, the army with the most money, men and the better weapons won: much like in today's football.

Where actual historical proof is concrned, buildings, artefacts, irrigation systems, hygene and things like the Book of Kells etc are beyond doubt as provable history. People, decidedly less sure. Nothing says they are definitely wrong, just that historians can't be inside the heads of people who died a long time ago.

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