The Ashes 2009

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:13 pm

how about an attacking field for a bit Straussy?

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:41 pm

Never before have I been so glad to come off when trying to bowl a side out.

Get in, rest the bowlers, let the batsmen sleep on it, and come back tommorow. Those two would've been out there all night.

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:39 pm

See if we'd made 'em bat again, they'd have been all out for 150 and we'd all have gone home by now.

Still interesting tomorrow methinks.

Tombwfc · Post by **Tombwfc** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:42 pm

Don't worry about it. We've got plenty.

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:46 pm

Tombwfc wrote:Don't worry about it. We've got plenty.

Gotcha, we just want to make sure that the paying public get a full test match...

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:02 pm

Worthy4England wrote:See if we'd made 'em bat again, they'd have been all out for 150 and we'd all have gone home by now.

Still interesting tomorrow methinks.

Aye looking at how tired our bowlers are, good job we didn't enforce the follow on.

They could easily have set us 250-350 to win on the final day!

Could be nervy tomorrow if these two survive the first 45 minutes or so!

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:08 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:See if we'd made 'em bat again, they'd have been all out for 150 and we'd all have gone home by now.

Still interesting tomorrow methinks.
Aye looking at how tired our bowlers are, good job we didn't enforce the follow on.

They could easily have set us 250-350 to win on the final day!

Could be nervy tomorrow if these two survive the first 45 minutes or so!

How tired our bowlers look? On the back of what? 11 Overs apiece? Jesus fecking Christ!

We've let the Aussies back into this game by not enforcing the follow-on. Big time!

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:09 pm

Suppose the question to be asked with hindsight is should we have batted another hour

If the weather stays fair, the answer is definitely yes

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:13 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:See if we'd made 'em bat again, they'd have been all out for 150 and we'd all have gone home by now.

Still interesting tomorrow methinks.
Aye looking at how tired our bowlers are, good job we didn't enforce the follow on.

They could easily have set us 250-350 to win on the final day!

Could be nervy tomorrow if these two survive the first 45 minutes or so!
How tired our bowlers look? On the back of what? 11 Overs apiece? Jesus fecking Christ!

We've let the Aussies back into this game by not enforcing the follow-on. Big time!

Theres no reason to suggest they wouldn't have scored at this rate and for this number of wickets yesterday

So, in effect, they'd have been 100 or so for 5

If you really think they can get another 220 for 4 or less, you're accepting they'd have set us around 350

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:22 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:See if we'd made 'em bat again, they'd have been all out for 150 and we'd all have gone home by now.

Still interesting tomorrow methinks.
Aye looking at how tired our bowlers are, good job we didn't enforce the follow on.

They could easily have set us 250-350 to win on the final day!

Could be nervy tomorrow if these two survive the first 45 minutes or so!
How tired our bowlers look? On the back of what? 11 Overs apiece? Jesus fecking Christ!

We've let the Aussies back into this game by not enforcing the follow-on. Big time!

Theres no reason to suggest they wouldn't have scored at this rate and for this number of wickets yesterday

So, in effect, they'd have been 100 or so for 5

If you really think they can get another 220 for 4 or less, you're accepting they'd have set us around 350

Hypothetical claptrap, my man. We had them on the hook and we've taken them off of it.

They've sensed the chance that we've quite unbelievably afforded them and are taking it.

Believe you me, we will not win this test and I'll be laying the blame at Strauss's door for his piss poor decision.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:27 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Believe you me, we will not win this test and I'll be laying the blame at Strauss's door for his piss poor decision.

a bold statement... and if we win it who will you be praising? (my guess you'll say we were lucky!)

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:28 pm

No

My position is based way more on fact than yours

The Aussies HAVE scored 300-5

YOU reckon theyre going to score another 200+

So, absolutely nowt to suggest they not have set us 300+

Unless you don't actually believe they can get the 200 or so they need.........

hisroyalgingerness · Post by **hisroyalgingerness** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:34 pm

A nervy day, no doubts about that. And what a psychological edge for the eventual winner. If the Aussies win, Ponting has one up based on captaincy, if we win then we have an edge on the basis of being more ruthless. Either way, I expect a winner tomorrow rather than a draw so hold on for the ride

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:39 pm

The other thing is we actually only got two legitimate wickets all day. Two catches that weren't and a wicket off a no-ball...

David Lee's Hair · Post by **David Lee's Hair** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:56 pm

Current forecast is to piss it down all day down here tomorrow.

Draw all over.

Shame should have put them in on the follow on but it did bugger all yesterday morning so you can kind of understand the decision to put them in again.

jimbo · Post by **jimbo** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:57 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:No

My position is based way more on fact than yours

The Aussies HAVE scored 300-5

YOU reckon theyre going to score another 200+

So, absolutely nowt to suggest they not have set us 300+

Unless you don't actually believe they can get the 200 or so they need.........

Plus, had we enforced the follow-on, Flintoff would have been unable to walk in the second innings which leaves us a key bowler down. Following on Australia could have easily got 450 with Saturday being such a perfect batting day. That would have left our fragile line-up needing 200-250 on the last day to win.

Batting again was the right decision. How can you say smashing a few runs to build up a lead of over 500 before letting them have another go isn't pressure?

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:11 am

David Lee's Hair wrote:Current forecast is to piss it down all day down here tomorrow.

Draw all over.

Shame should have put them in on the follow on but it did bugger all yesterday morning so you can kind of understand the decision to put them in again.

forecast is light showers - I think there will be plenty of play - and blue-sky sunshine for at least the first hour... no swing and runs galore....

my prediction? many bitten nails!

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:29 am

I'm all up for a good win. I think an early wicket, a bit of defiance but a comfortable win in the end. Will somebody help me out, as I've tied myself in knots crossing everything?

David Lee's Hair · Post by **David Lee's Hair** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:31 am

thebish wrote:forecast is light showers - I think there will be plenty of play - and blue-sky sunshine for at least the first hour... no swing and runs galore....

my prediction? many bitten nails!

Serves me right for believing the local weather

A few showers and a bit of swing may be beneficial though

FaninOz · Post by **FaninOz** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:01 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:Suppose the question to be asked with hindsight is should we have batted another hour

If the weather stays fair, the answer is definitely yes

I agree with that, we could easily lose this unless we get these two out very quickly.

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