Other football summer transfer SWOOPING thread

bristol_Wanderer3 · Post by **bristol_Wanderer3** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:19 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:
seanworth wrote:I think Toure, at least the past couple seasons is highly over rated.
Maybe, but selling him still puts a lot of pressure on Vermaelen to perform immediately and a lot of pressure on Gallas to not have a nervous breakdown. Behind them you've got Silvestre and Senderos . . . certainly not players you'll win the league with. Might not even be good enough for top 4.

They have Djourou as well. I'm surprised Wenger is saying he is happy with what he has - they look weak in attack now - and not great in defence. Plus, it is the reputation of them as a selling club that will develop if he doesn't sign top class replacements.

If they sign Huntelaar and Hangeland however, they will have improved their team in this TW, and made some money.

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:26 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:
seanworth wrote:I think Toure, at least the past couple seasons is highly over rated.
Maybe, but selling him still puts a lot of pressure on Vermaelen to perform immediately and a lot of pressure on Gallas to not have a nervous breakdown. Behind them you've got Silvestre and Senderos . . . certainly not players you'll win the league with. Might not even be good enough for top 4.

Pretty sure he left last summer.

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:26 pm

Only on loan seanybaby

Village_Idiot2 · Post by **Village_Idiot2** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:32 pm

Arshavin, Van Persie, Fabregas, Rosicky... I don't think you can say Arsenal looks weak going forward. Heck I like their front line much more than City's and would have half those players at Barça in a heartbeat.

But they need less shaky defenders and a Viera-like player to add a more physical presence and determination to the midfield. Gilberto was decent doing that and I think people in general underrated him. I also think this lack of physical midfield exposes their so-so back four too, they shipped the most goals in the top 4 by a noticeable amount.

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:36 pm

I'd still stick a sly fiver on Vieira ending up back at l'Arse you know.

Just a feeling I have

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:39 pm

Bruno wrote:I'd still stick a sly fiver on Vieira ending up back at l'Arse you know.

Just a feeling I have

So do the bookies - he's 11-8 on to join them by the end of August, apparently...

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:58 pm

That has been their biggest weakness the past couple seasons or so.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:19 pm

Village_Idiot2 wrote:Arshavin, Van Persie, Fabregas, Rosicky... I don't think you can say Arsenal looks weak going forward. Heck I like their front line much more than City's and would have half those players at Barça in a heartbeat.

But they need less shaky defenders and a Viera-like player to add a more physical presence and determination to the midfield. Gilberto was decent doing that and I think people in general underrated him. I also think this lack of physical midfield exposes their so-so back four too, they shipped the most goals in the top 4 by a noticeable amount.

and Eduardo..... but.... when were any two out of those five fit at the same time?

(not to mention Vela and Walcott, and Bendtner...)

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:55 pm

Verbal wrote:
Bruno wrote:I'd still stick a sly fiver on Vieira ending up back at l'Arse you know.

Just a feeling I have
So do the bookies - he's 11-8 on to join them by the end of August, apparently...

33 years old though!

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:59 pm

Get in there Meggers!!

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:56 pm

Village_Idiot2 wrote:Arshavin, Van Persie, Fabregas, Rosicky... I don't think you can say Arsenal looks weak going forward. Heck I like their front line much more than City's and would have half those players at Barça in a heartbeat.

But they need less shaky defenders and a Viera-like player to add a more physical presence and determination to the midfield. Gilberto was decent doing that and I think people in general underrated him. I also think this lack of physical midfield exposes their so-so back four too, they shipped the most goals in the top 4 by a noticeable amount.

You listed 3 midfielders and an injury prone (albeit extremely talented) striker. Putting the ball in the back of the net could be a problem. I don't rate Adebayor, but at least he guaranteed 15 goals per season. I can really see Wenger going to the much maligned (by himself) 4-3-3, with a smasher of a DM to shore things up for Fabregas and Rosicky to pull the strings in the centre, with Arshavin, Van Persie and Walcott as the regular front three.

Almunia

Sagna, Vermaelen, Gallas, Clichy / Gibbs

(insert DM)

Rosicky, Fabregas

Arshavin, Van Persie, Walcott

That's a belting side still

officer_dibble · Post by **officer_dibble** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:09 pm

you forgot Eduardo - who is a more natural target striker, along with Bendtner, and probably Vela. And I bet Arsene has a kid or two to come in as well

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:54 pm

City signed Fabian Delph for 10m and loaned him back to Leeds.

To be announced later, supposedly.

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:57 pm

Bruno wrote:City signed Fabian Delph for 10m and loaned him back to Leeds.

To be announced later, supposedly.

Really? 10 Million?

That's very much a case of we don't need him, but we don't want anybody else to have him

H. Pedersen · Post by **H. Pedersen** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:26 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Bruno wrote:City signed Fabian Delph for 10m and loaned him back to Leeds.

To be announced later, supposedly.
Really? 10 Million?

That's very much a case of we don't need him, but we don't want anybody else to have him

If true, could have interesting repercussions for us . . . might dash Sporting's hopes of selling Veloso to City . . .

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:27 pm

No it won't

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:31 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
Bruno wrote:City signed Fabian Delph for 10m and loaned him back to Leeds.

To be announced later, supposedly.
Really? 10 Million?

That's very much a case of we don't need him, but we don't want anybody else to have him
If true, could have interesting repercussions for us . . . might dash Sporting's hopes of selling Veloso to City . . .

Sure I read somewhere today that Spurs are after him.

Looks very much like we will have him just so no-one else can have him. Oh the fun times ahead. Looks like Chelsea all over again.

boltonboris · Post by **boltonboris** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:21 pm

Arsenal v Atletico Madrid, due to kick off any minute, in the Emirates cup on Sky Sports two.

Should be a cracker, neither team can defend but have bags of ability in attack.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:45 pm

boltonboris wrote:Arsenal v Atletico Madrid, due to kick off any minute, in the Emirates cup on Sky Sports two.

Should be a cracker, neither team can defend but have bags of ability in attack.

my gooner-supporting friend says the first half was a bag of tedious dog-wank (OK - she didn't use that language - but it's what she meant!)

FD · Post by FD » Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:18 pm

I watched the replay of Arshavin's second goal and I've still no idea how he did it.

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