Benitez .... prick

[Worthy4England]

To be fair, there have been millions of far worse penalty decisions than that.

I'm still not entirely sure I'm up with the law, but to me, that was a shit tackle. If N'Gog just plain carried on running, he'd have been tripped up and it'd have been a stonewall penalty.

Ok - I'm not up with the law either, but I'm not buying that one Tom.

To me N'Gog knocks it between two defenders, to run onto. Carsley gets to it first and is the next player to touch the ball. Surely that means Carsley and not N'Gog is technically in posession? If N'Gog carried on running and made contact with Carsley before the ball then surely it would have been a free-kick to Birmingham as they were the team "in posession" when the Liverpool player kicked him? At what point should Carsley pull out of a committed tackle that it looks to me he's successfully executed to allow N'Gog to try and walk it in the net?

Are we looking at the same incident? Carsley doesn't touch the ball, never mind gain posession of it.

The one I'm looking at Carsley appears to get to the ball before N'Gog albeit "just about". Sure if you scroll up Bruno has it embedded somewhere. (That's the only angle I've seen it from though)

[William the White]

To be fair, there have been millions of far worse penalty decisions than that.

I'm still not entirely sure I'm up with the law, but to me, that was a shit tackle. If N'Gog just plain carried on running, he'd have been tripped up and it'd have been a stonewall penalty.

Ok - I'm not up with the law either, but I'm not buying that one Tom.

To me N'Gog knocks it between two defenders, to run onto. Carsley gets to it first and is the next player to touch the ball. Surely that means Carsley and not N'Gog is technically in posession? If N'Gog carried on running and made contact with Carsley before the ball then surely it would have been a free-kick to Birmingham as they were the team "in posession" when the Liverpool player kicked him? At what point should Carsley pull out of a committed tackle that it looks to me he's successfully executed to allow N'Gog to try and walk it in the net?

Are we looking at the same incident? Carsley doesn't touch the ball, never mind gain posession of it.

The one I'm looking at Carsley appears to get to the ball before N'Gog albeit "just about". Sure if you scroll up Bruno has it embedded somewhere. (That's the only angle I've seen it from though)

Terrible decision... carsley gets a touch and deflects... ngog dives without being touched... ref fooled... Brum may get relegated because of that decision... Liverpool may scab europa league...

tom overdue triannual visit to th'opticians...

[Lord Kangana]

If N'gog dived, does it make Benitez more of a prick than if Carsley mis-timed his challenge?

[Tombwfc]

To be fair, there have been millions of far worse penalty decisions than that.

I'm still not entirely sure I'm up with the law, but to me, that was a shit tackle. If N'Gog just plain carried on running, he'd have been tripped up and it'd have been a stonewall penalty.

Ok - I'm not up with the law either, but I'm not buying that one Tom.

To me N'Gog knocks it between two defenders, to run onto. Carsley gets to it first and is the next player to touch the ball. Surely that means Carsley and not N'Gog is technically in posession? If N'Gog carried on running and made contact with Carsley before the ball then surely it would have been a free-kick to Birmingham as they were the team "in posession" when the Liverpool player kicked him? At what point should Carsley pull out of a committed tackle that it looks to me he's successfully executed to allow N'Gog to try and walk it in the net?

Are we looking at the same incident? Carsley doesn't touch the ball, never mind gain posession of it.

The one I'm looking at Carsley appears to get to the ball before N'Gog albeit "just about". Sure if you scroll up Bruno has it embedded somewhere. (That's the only angle I've seen it from though)

Terrible decision... carsley gets a touch and deflects... ngog dives without being touched... ref fooled... Brum may get relegated because of that decision... Liverpool may scab europa league...

tom overdue triannual visit to th'opticians...

Really? I honestly still can't really see it, but I'm happy to take your word for it. The referee would've done amazingly well to see that first time round, so like I said, I've seen worse. Rob Styles last year being the main example.

[William the White]

actually, tom, you're at least half right - the decision was terribly mistaken but you're right, can't blame the ref for failing to make the right call, was exceptionally tough... note the entire world engaging in pious denunciation of Ngog's dive, though... many hypocritically...

[Zulus Thousand of em]

Stevie G has been very quiet about it - considering his abhorrence of diving in the game.

[H. Pedersen]

Manager Rafael Benitez will try and solve Liverpool's striker crisis by making a £12m move for West Ham's Carlton Cole in January.

Solve the striker crisis with a striker who wouldn't make Chelsea's bench. Smart.

Funny thing is I can remember a quality striker who was available for free and would have given his left nut to go to Liverpool. But N'Gog is just as good really.

[fozzy]

Manager Rafael Benitez will try and solve Liverpool's striker crisis by making a £12m move for West Ham's Carlton Cole in January.

Solve the striker crisis with a striker who wouldn't make Chelsea's bench. Smart.

Funny thing is I can remember a quality striker who was available for free and would have given his left nut to go to Liverpool. But N'Gog is just as good really.

He'll need to nearly double that if he wants Carlton.

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Manager Rafael Benitez will try and solve Liverpool's striker crisis by making a £12m move for West Ham's Carlton Cole in January.

Solve the striker crisis with a striker who wouldn't make Chelsea's bench. Smart.

Yeah, cos we've actually got £12m to spend? I'm amazed by how people swallow this horseshit from the papers. If we had £12m to spend, don't you think we might've bought some slightly better defensive cover than Nick the Greek in the summer?

Funny thing is I can remember a quality striker who was available for free and would have given his left nut to go to Liverpool. But N'Gog is just as good really.

Number of minutes played by Michael Owen this season: 241
Number of Premier League goals scored by Michael Owen this season: 2

Number of minutes played by David Ngog this season: 134
Number of Premier League goals scored by David Ngog this season: 3

He can keep his left nut.

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The one I'm looking at Carsley appears to get to the ball before N'Gog albeit "just about".

Ngog clearly gets to the ball first and toes it past Carsley, who misses the ball. Can't see how you can say Carsley 'got there first', never mind actually touching it.

[BWFC_Insane]

Carlton Cole >>>>>>> Michael Owen.

[Bruno]

Old King Cole >>> Cheryl Cole >>> Carlton Cole

[BWFC_Insane]

Old King Cole >>> Cheryl Cole >>> Carlton Cole

You missed out Andy and Nat King and Natalie!

[Puskas]

Old King Cole >>> Cheryl Cole >>> Carlton Cole

I was told, at the weekend, that Cheryl Cole is "The nation's sweetheart".

Now, unless I was lied to, how can you prefer Old King Cole?

He may be a merry old soul and all that, but he's not The Nation's Sweetheart.

Or, indeed, a racist thug with a penchant for beating up toilet attendants. But then neither's Cheryl, so that's OK.

[BWFC_Insane]

Old King Cole >>> Cheryl Cole >>> Carlton Cole

I was told, at the weekend, that Cheryl Cole is "The nation's sweetheart".

Now, unless I was lied to, how can you prefer Old King Cole?

He may be a merry old soul and all that, but he's not The Nation's Sweetheart.

Or, indeed, a racist thug with a penchant for beating up toilet attendants. But then neither's Cheryl, so that's OK.

She dispelled those rumours by marrying cashley though!

[superjohnmcginlay]

Old King Cole >>> Cheryl Cole >>> Carlton Cole

I was told, at the weekend, that Cheryl Cole is "The nation's sweetheart".

Now, unless I was lied to, how can you prefer Old King Cole?

He may be a merry old soul and all that, but he's not The Nation's Sweetheart.

Or, indeed, a racist thug with a penchant for beating up toilet attendants. But then neither's Cheryl, so that's OK.

She dispelled those rumours by marrying cashley though!

And he dispelled some other rumours by marrying her.

[Athers]

Think Carlton Cole would do well at Liverpool but as far as I know they've got no money and West Ham may as well start preparing their team for the Championship if they even consider selling him.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

Think Carlton Cole would do well at Liverpool but as far as I know they've got no money and West Ham may as well start preparing their team for the Championship if they even consider selling him.

The banks may not afford them the luxury of choice.

Shame.

[CAPSLOCK]

Manager Rafael Benitez will try and solve Liverpool's striker crisis by making a £12m move for West Ham's Carlton Cole in January.

Solve the striker crisis with a striker who wouldn't make Chelsea's bench. Smart.

Yeah, cos we've actually got £12m to spend? I'm amazed by how people swallow this horseshit from the papers. If we had £12m to spend, don't you think we might've bought some slightly better defensive cover than Nick the Greek in the summer?

Funny thing is I can remember a quality striker who was available for free and would have given his left nut to go to Liverpool. But N'Gog is just as good really.

Number of minutes played by Michael Owen this season: 241
Number of Premier League goals scored by Michael Owen this season: 2

Number of minutes played by David Ngog this season: 134
Number of Premier League goals scored by David Ngog this season: 3

He can keep his left nut.

Don't take him on

I wonder what you're paying Ngog a week

10k?

[Worthy4England]

The one I'm looking at Carsley appears to get to the ball before N'Gog albeit "just about".

Ngog clearly gets to the ball first and toes it past Carsley, who misses the ball. Can't see how you can say Carsley 'got there first', never mind actually touching it.

It's that bit that I disagree with. Ngog certainly toes it first. Carsley then clearly, gets some of the ball with his right foot. How much does of the ball does he need to touch for it to count? I could understand the ref missing Carsley getting a touch without the benefit of 38 replays, but he certainly gets a foot to it.

Either way, it was going to be difficult for the Ref, because by that time, the cheating bastard was 30 foot up in the air, like he'd just trod on a landmine, which is bound to be a little distracting.