Republic Of Ireland v France

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Post by seanworth » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:13 pm

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:I don't get some of the media comments about this. Everyone is saying the "Irish were robbed of a place in the world cup". They weren't - they were robbed of staying level on aggregate with 15 minutes to go. Given France were pushing forward more at that time, it was 50-50 at best that they would have won from there. Also, Anelka's penalty looked nailed on to me - the referee/assistant made two major mistakes to me, one for France and one against them.

I don't think the game should be replayed, I don't think Henry is a cheat, although it was a regrettable incident, I do think the officials made desperate errors, but it is not easy running miles at the age of 40, and then retaining mental sharpness to see incidents in a blink of an eye.

They should definitely introduce more assistant referees behind the goal, but I am against video technology except for balls over the line incidents. Football depends on continuity of action, we don't want a 10 second delay for a replay (plus time to assess the replay) over every contentious decision, of which there are many each game.
Instead we get to watch players bitch whine and plead to the referee over every contentious decision for an equal amount of time.

Personally I think with video technology and strict penalties for cheats a lot of the contentious decisions will disappear overnight.

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Post by CrazyHorse » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:42 pm

This story is barely registering 1.5 on my do-I-give-a-toss-ometer.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:35 pm

H. Pedersen wrote:Wouldn't have made a difference anyway. After the infamous Samuel tackle, didn't Ronaldo tell Styles it wasn't a penalty?
That's not quite how I remember it. Didn't he give Styles the 'aw come on, Ref' eyes (the greater part of communication not being spoken etc.)?
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Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:04 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:This story is barely registering 1.5 on my do-I-give-a-toss-ometer.
How is it calbrated? 1 - 10 or 1.0 - 2.0? Only I'm not quite sure whether you're vaguely interested or couldn't give a f*cked.
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Post by CrazyHorse » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:13 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:This story is barely registering 1.5 on my do-I-give-a-toss-ometer.
How is it calbrated? 1 - 10 or 1.0 - 2.0? Only I'm not quite sure whether you're vaguely interested or couldn't give a f*cked.
1-100.
Robbie Savage's love life scores higher than this story.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:15 pm

Who's Robbie Savage?
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:24 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Who's Robbie Savage?
Ooooooh you JCL, you! :shock:

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Post by Verbal » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:51 am

A rare instance in which I agree in the main with Roy Keane.
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Post by Relentless09 » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:23 pm

i read an interview that Roy Keane said and i agree with him, Henry shouldn't of got in that postion and why didn;t the keeper cover

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:48 pm

Relentless09 wrote:i read an interview that Roy Keane said and i agree with him, Henry shouldn't of got in that postion and why didn;t the keeper cover
Well, I'd have thought that they were very happy with the fact that, as a unit, they'd done enough to see the ball run out of play without any of them risking a corner until Henry cheated with his Meadowlark Lemon bit, the cheating c*nt. Roy Keane is just a bitter idiot, was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player, and is clearly no better than the likes of Ian Branfoot when it comes to being a manager. He's just an outspoken prick.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:14 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Roy Keane [...] was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player,
Nah, not having that.
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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:32 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Roy Keane [...] was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player,
Nah, not having that.
No defender of the tw@t from Cork, but I can't agree there. His violent side did come through too often, but he was a class player also.

As a manager however, I feel you are being unfair to Ian Branfoot. Keane is psychologically unfit to manage people. You can't imagine what it must be like to work for the bloke with every error, every moment, simply waiting for him to tear you a new one. No-one could give him their best as they'd alays be scared of making a mistake.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:37 pm

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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Roy Keane [...] was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player,
Nah, not having that.
No defender of the tw@t from Cork, but I can't agree there. His violent side did come through too often, but he was a class player also.

As a manager however, I feel you are being unfair to Ian Branfoot. Keane is psychologically unfit to manage people. You can't imagine what it must be like to work for the bloke with every error, every moment, simply waiting for him to tear you a new one. No-one could give him their best as they'd alays be scared of making a mistake.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:44 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Roy Keane [...] was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player,
Nah, not having that.
No defender of the tw@t from Cork, but I can't agree there. His violent side did come through too often, but he was a class player also.

As a manager however, I feel you are being unfair to Ian Branfoot. Keane is psychologically unfit to manage people. You can't imagine what it must be like to work for the bloke with every error, every moment, simply waiting for him to tear you a new one. No-one could give him their best as they'd alays be scared of making a mistake.
Yep.
Were you at our place when Okocha started playing keepy-uppy all around and over him? He decided to try and take Okocha out at the waist but was even found wanting in that department. When playing under Brian Clough the yes, he showed brilliance, but show me something, anything, remarkable that he did whilst playing for the Trafford Rags?!
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Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:59 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Roy Keane [...] was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player,
Nah, not having that.
No defender of the tw@t from Cork, but I can't agree there. His violent side did come through too often, but he was a class player also.

As a manager however, I feel you are being unfair to Ian Branfoot. Keane is psychologically unfit to manage people. You can't imagine what it must be like to work for the bloke with every error, every moment, simply waiting for him to tear you a new one. No-one could give him their best as they'd alays be scared of making a mistake.
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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:30 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFulcDJDJEU

This was yesterday ... Mr Keane showing how he can't distinguish between stopping a problem & wiping people out. I think it may have been Alf-Inge's mum calling !
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Post by Lord Kangana » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:04 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Roy Keane [...] was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player,
Nah, not having that.
No defender of the tw@t from Cork, but I can't agree there. His violent side did come through too often, but he was a class player also.

As a manager however, I feel you are being unfair to Ian Branfoot. Keane is psychologically unfit to manage people. You can't imagine what it must be like to work for the bloke with every error, every moment, simply waiting for him to tear you a new one. No-one could give him their best as they'd alays be scared of making a mistake.
Perhaps those pussy footballers should try working in a professional kitchen. I do agree by the way, but it can't be that striaghtforward, as I've worked for several psychopath's in my time who have achieved great results.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:16 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Roy Keane [...] was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player,
Nah, not having that.
No defender of the tw@t from Cork, but I can't agree there. His violent side did come through too often, but he was a class player also.

As a manager however, I feel you are being unfair to Ian Branfoot. Keane is psychologically unfit to manage people. You can't imagine what it must be like to work for the bloke with every error, every moment, simply waiting for him to tear you a new one. No-one could give him their best as they'd alays be scared of making a mistake.
Perhaps those pussy footballers should try working in a professional kitchen. I do agree by the way, but it can't be that striaghtforward, as I've worked for several psychopath's in my time who have achieved great results.
Talking of which, shouldn't you be quite busy at 22:04 on a Saturday evening if you're any good? :conf:
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Post by Lord Kangana » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:37 pm

I'm allowed the odd Saturday off.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:42 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Roy Keane [...] was little more than Vinnie Jones by way of being a player,
Nah, not having that.
No defender of the tw@t from Cork, but I can't agree there. His violent side did come through too often, but he was a class player also.

As a manager however, I feel you are being unfair to Ian Branfoot. Keane is psychologically unfit to manage people. You can't imagine what it must be like to work for the bloke with every error, every moment, simply waiting for him to tear you a new one. No-one could give him their best as they'd alays be scared of making a mistake.
Yep.
Were you at our place when Okocha started playing keepy-uppy all around and over him? He decided to try and take Okocha out at the waist but was even found wanting in that department. When playing under Brian Clough the yes, he showed brilliance, but show me something, anything, remarkable that he did whilst playing for the Trafford Rags?!
Well yes, it's true that Okocha was capable of casting his spell over the world's best, when on form.

I thought he was terrific for United, a real leader and iron man in midfield - competitive, committed, and a driver of standards amongst his teammates. I particularly remember him being superb as captain in their treble-winning season, particularly in their European run, in which he was eventually suspended from the final (where he was sorely missed and they were famously lucky to put on a late show).
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