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I was angry too. That's why I banned her and removed her posts.Wandering Willy wrote:....the price of brand shoes and jewelry.

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Executed man's family slam Britain
Last Updated: Wednesday, 30 December 2009, 08:50 GMT- Search: China Shaikh execution
Akmal Shaikh was executed in China (Luis Belmonte Diaz)Relatives of Akmal Shaikh have said the Government's failure to prevent his execution in China showed Britain's "powerlessness in the world".
The criticism came as a diplomatic war of words broke out between London and Beijing over the execution of convicted drug smuggler Shaikh, who is believed to have suffered from bipolar disorder.
Shaikh, a British citizen, was killed by lethal injection early on Tuesday despite pleas for his mental health to be considered.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who had telephoned Chinese premier when Jiabao to urge him to halt the execution, said he was "appalled and disappointed" at the failure to grant clemency.
Chinese officials in both capitals hit back with an insistence that Shaikh had "no previous medical record" of mental illness and a warning not to meddle in China's judicial affairs.
Some 27 separate representations were made at ministerial level on Shaikh's behalf to the Chinese authorities as intense efforts were made to spare his life.
But in a letter to a newspaper, his cousins Amina and Ridwan Shaikh said the British government had shrunk from confronting China over the case prior to the execution because of fears it could harm the UK's economic interests in the country.
"Britain's economic dependence far outweighs these 'individual cases'," they wrote.
The letter continued: "Did the British Government pull out its diplomats in protest? Did it have a hard-hitting strategy to persuade the Chinese authorities to change their decision?
"This is an example of Britain's powerlessness in the world."
Executed man's family slam Britain
Last Updated: Wednesday, 30 December 2009, 08:50 GMT- Search: China Shaikh execution
Akmal Shaikh was executed in China (Luis Belmonte Diaz)Relatives of Akmal Shaikh have said the Government's failure to prevent his execution in China showed Britain's "powerlessness in the world".
The criticism came as a diplomatic war of words broke out between London and Beijing over the execution of convicted drug smuggler Shaikh, who is believed to have suffered from bipolar disorder.
Shaikh, a British citizen, was killed by lethal injection early on Tuesday despite pleas for his mental health to be considered.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who had telephoned Chinese premier when Jiabao to urge him to halt the execution, said he was "appalled and disappointed" at the failure to grant clemency.
Chinese officials in both capitals hit back with an insistence that Shaikh had "no previous medical record" of mental illness and a warning not to meddle in China's judicial affairs.
Some 27 separate representations were made at ministerial level on Shaikh's behalf to the Chinese authorities as intense efforts were made to spare his life.
But in a letter to a newspaper, his cousins Amina and Ridwan Shaikh said the British government had shrunk from confronting China over the case prior to the execution because of fears it could harm the UK's economic interests in the country.
"Britain's economic dependence far outweighs these 'individual cases'," they wrote.
The letter continued: "Did the British Government pull out its diplomats in protest? Did it have a hard-hitting strategy to persuade the Chinese authorities to change their decision?
"This is an example of Britain's powerlessness in the world."
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What are you angry about TD? I don't know enough about his mental history to pass judgement either way, but if he was mentally ill I could understand the familly's anguish. Even if not, I think it's a bit harsh to condemn a grief striken familly for seeking somebody to blame.
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Probably more angry that someone who has emigrated to a country is slamming his nation of birth. When in most recent news cases they are protesting Britain's involvement in world affairs as interfering with sovereign states.Prufrock wrote:What are you angry about TD? I don't know enough about his mental history to pass judgement either way, but if he was mentally ill I could understand the familly's anguish. Even if not, I think it's a bit harsh to condemn a grief striken familly for seeking somebody to blame.
Plus they slammed Britain. hell I'm a little pissed about it.
Also a little pissed about any death sentence (Don't start about the USA I din't agree with it)
Also a little pissed mercy was not shown to a mentally ill person.
Also a little pissed that it's over a drug dealer, I mean these are the risks. What did the family expect?
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Anger is too strong a word. Annoyance then. My point was, why didn't the family do somthing about this alleged mental illness? Why did they allow him to go to a country where capital punishment is the law where drug smuggling is concerned? Neither Britain, or its government where responsible for either. The guy was caught smuggling drugs and China chose to ignore the multiple appeals for clemency; more or less telling us to mind our own business. No, I don't condone capital punishment, but I certainly can't agree with the family blaming Britain and making the remarks they did. If he hadn't been arrested, would his mental condition have prevented him from doing it again? Somehow, I have my doubts. He commited the crime and got caught, not Britain.
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I can't comment on this case as I don't have anywhere near enough information. I can though comment on drug smuggling and travel.
There has been a number of incidents of Australians caught attempting to smuggle drugs into or out of our near northern neighbours. Some of those countries have death penalties in place for such activity. Putting aside the utter stupidity of mucking about with illegal substances, surely any traveller - even an innocent tourist - would do their very best to find out the dos and don'ts of a country they intend to visit. Ergo, if you're a dingbat who ignores the bleeding obvious then you deserve what you get.
There is nothing wrong in asking for Consular assistance but it is wrong to expect miracles. Put it this way: If a visitor to your country (I assume here a 'western' type democracy) stoned his wife (or anyone else) to death as a result of her adultery or because she was raped then what would you do or expect from your legal system? . . . Precisely.
For the record. I do not agree with capital punishment. Many others do and many countries have such enshrined within their legal system. It's like playing a sport with which you are unfamiliar - learn the rules and expect the penalty when you infringe them. Ignorance is not bliss.
There has been a number of incidents of Australians caught attempting to smuggle drugs into or out of our near northern neighbours. Some of those countries have death penalties in place for such activity. Putting aside the utter stupidity of mucking about with illegal substances, surely any traveller - even an innocent tourist - would do their very best to find out the dos and don'ts of a country they intend to visit. Ergo, if you're a dingbat who ignores the bleeding obvious then you deserve what you get.
There is nothing wrong in asking for Consular assistance but it is wrong to expect miracles. Put it this way: If a visitor to your country (I assume here a 'western' type democracy) stoned his wife (or anyone else) to death as a result of her adultery or because she was raped then what would you do or expect from your legal system? . . . Precisely.
For the record. I do not agree with capital punishment. Many others do and many countries have such enshrined within their legal system. It's like playing a sport with which you are unfamiliar - learn the rules and expect the penalty when you infringe them. Ignorance is not bliss.
I'd be asking why the loving family let someone whose 3 sheets to the wind (apparently) wander all over the world with a stash of drugs!!!
Bi polar? seems like a good excuse for knobs and alco's to use, re the train crash called Kerry!!!
Do the crime etc etc its their country, their laws, the stupid SOB got what he deserved, sorry!
Bi polar? seems like a good excuse for knobs and alco's to use, re the train crash called Kerry!!!
Do the crime etc etc its their country, their laws, the stupid SOB got what he deserved, sorry!
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Yet another way of Labour/Brown nose rip offs!!!!
And yet another smug looking female haperperson type!
Labour OUT!!!
Yet another way of Labour/Brown nose rip offs!!!!
And yet another smug looking female haperperson type!
Labour OUT!!!
Hobinho wrote:I'd be asking why the loving family let someone whose 3 sheets to the wind (apparently) wander all over the world with a stash of drugs!!!
interesting question - have you ever had an adult member of your family who is mentally ill in your family? If so - you might not be so quick to inagine that you could very easily keep them in your shed under lock and key - and perhaps not so quick to imagine that it is that easy to find secure and long-term psychiatric care when they are (on the face of it) perfectly able to function in society....
how would you have suggested the family (however loving they might be) stop him from travelling?
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Tipping. Of the monetary kind, not the fly kind.
I've got no problems with the act of tipping, more the attitudes of staff expecting a tip all of the time. Tipping should be reserved for friendly or helpful staff and not just an obligatory top up. I've just got back from New York and come across loads of examples of it - miserable taxi drivers spending the whole trip screaming a foreign language down their mobile and then declaring the fare to be $11 'Plus tip', a restaurant adding 15% to the bill despite there being no mention of it on the menu, and another restaurant putting that service was not included on their bill, with the waiter then scribbling on a 'suggested 15%'.
People are paid to do their jobs. If i go for a haircut and the price says £8, that's what I expect to pay. The barber is doing his job and has set a price for it. If he engages in good conversation and makes a good job of it, then yes, he deserves a tip. If a waiter is attentive and takes time with you to explain things and recommend things, then again, he deserves a tip. Simply asking what you want and then giving it to you is his job. Why does he deserve extra for it?
It's not as though I'm only seeing this from one side either. I worked in a bar for 3 years so have received tips as well.
I've got no problems with the act of tipping, more the attitudes of staff expecting a tip all of the time. Tipping should be reserved for friendly or helpful staff and not just an obligatory top up. I've just got back from New York and come across loads of examples of it - miserable taxi drivers spending the whole trip screaming a foreign language down their mobile and then declaring the fare to be $11 'Plus tip', a restaurant adding 15% to the bill despite there being no mention of it on the menu, and another restaurant putting that service was not included on their bill, with the waiter then scribbling on a 'suggested 15%'.
People are paid to do their jobs. If i go for a haircut and the price says £8, that's what I expect to pay. The barber is doing his job and has set a price for it. If he engages in good conversation and makes a good job of it, then yes, he deserves a tip. If a waiter is attentive and takes time with you to explain things and recommend things, then again, he deserves a tip. Simply asking what you want and then giving it to you is his job. Why does he deserve extra for it?
It's not as though I'm only seeing this from one side either. I worked in a bar for 3 years so have received tips as well.
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