Aaron Ramsey

[Bruce Rioja]

Shawcroft's just been called-up for the Egypt game. That should ruffle Yaffle's feathers - the cock!

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

And so it begins....

http://goonerholic.com/?p=2161

Who the F U C K do these people really think they are? When it's done to them, it's done by thugs. When it's done by them, it's celebrated.

This type of Arsenal fan gives every other football fan in the world a bad name.

[Prufrock]

"Still gutted over Aaron. When I watched it on TV this morning (I’m in the States), it originally didn’t look more than a bad tackle. Then I saw Ramsey crumpled in a heap & try to lift his leg (as in the foto), and I damn near puked. Good Christ…when will this end? We get kicked and kicked and nothing happens til one of the lads comes up broken. I’m beyond angry"

Sums it up for me. I tackle isn't deemed a foul, or not, or how bad by the result.

[Gooner Girl]

And so it begins....

http://goonerholic.com/?p=2161

Who the F U C K do these people really think they are? When it's done to them, it's done by thugs. When it's done by them, it's celebrated.

This type of Arsenal fan gives every other football fan in the world a bad name.

On the forum i post on - Goonersworld - the vast majority of fans accept it was an accident and are more concerned with Ramsey getting better then they are with pointing any fingers of blame or lambasting Shawcroft. Check out the match thread on there and you will find not all gooners are blinkered idiots.

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

Ramsey's nicked the ball at full pelt from Shawcross' blind side, from what I saw - if he had intention of hurting Ramsey, young Ryan should be called up for England just for having the peripheral vision of a fecking house fly. Ramsey's not pulled out of it, he's just nicked the ball and Shawcross' momentum has taken his foot into the ankle. It's a late challenge borne out of just being a split second slower to the ball than the other lad. Like Eduardo and Mark Davies, it's just unfortunate that Ramsey was that little bit too quick.

I wish Aaron Ramsey well in his recovery - no-one wants to see a player carried off in such a way. I hope Ryan Shawcross can put any demons this causes to bed quickly - no-one would expect a "thug" to be in tears after realising what he's done.

And - I really can't believe that it's got to the stage of having to type this - much respect to the Stoke fans for their feelings towards Ramsey. A stadium full of people giving the lad a sympathetic standing ovation, no gestures towards his stretcher, no moronic cheers or jeers, no goading of the injured player as he's going off.

[Worthy4England]

And so it begins....

http://goonerholic.com/?p=2161

Who the F U C K do these people really think they are? When it's done to them, it's done by thugs. When it's done by them, it's celebrated.

This type of Arsenal fan gives every other football fan in the world a bad name.

I think, like most normal thinking people - sorry for Ramsey that got hurt.

But I gotta say after the classless Arsewipe chavs that have been on here recently, I can't see the problem. Bad tackle, shit happens, pretty sure he's (Shawcross) sorry about it.

Didn't see much remorse when Gallas took Davies out, whether accidentally or not...(and I don't think it was intentional from Gallas)

Apols in advance to Boltonaremysecondteam. Coz she's nice n reasonable and I'm owd n pervy.

[Horza]

Also note in that video that while most of the Arse players are genuinely horrified and run over to Ramsay, Sol and Cesc start haranguing Shawcross. Class.

[Worthy4England]

Also note in that video that while most of the Arse players are genuinely horrified and run over to Ramsay, Sol and Cesc start haranguing Shawcross. Class.

They have none - they're French (collectively)

[Worthy4England]

Ramsey's nicked the ball at full pelt from Shawcross' blind side, from what I saw - if he had intention of hurting Ramsey, young Ryan should be called up for England just for having the peripheral vision of a fecking house fly. Ramsey's not pulled out of it, he's just nicked the ball and Shawcross' momentum has taken his foot into the ankle. It's a late challenge borne out of just being a split second slower to the ball than the other lad. Like Eduardo and Mark Davies, it's just unfortunate that Ramsey was that little bit too quick.

I wish Aaron Ramsey well in his recovery - no-one wants to see a player carried off in such a way. I hope Ryan Shawcross can put any demons this causes to bed quickly - no-one would expect a "thug" to be in tears after realising what he's done.

And - I really can't believe that it's got to the stage of having to type this - much respect to the Stoke fans for their feelings towards Ramsey. A stadium full of people giving the lad a sympathetic standing ovation, no gestures towards his stretcher, no moronic cheers or jeers, no goading of the injured player as he's going off.

This, entirely Baab.

Yoonited etc. (dodgy decisions aside) get more penalty decisions against lower tems in the division, probably , cos they spend more time in the oppo's pengy area.

Quicker players on their feet (again generally in the top half of the Prem) are more likely to get caught than us donkey's down the bottom, maybe coz they're just that half a yard quicker.

[Lord Kangana]

I don't see whats so out of order about his comments this time?

"I am not very happy with the tackle. We know what to expect from other teams but we have now lost three players in five years to horrendous tackles. I refuse to believe it's coincidence when you're hit as many times as we are. We know teams want to be physical against Arsenal - this is the result. When you see how Aaron got injured today in the way that he did, it is not acceptable. I don't accept that"


Too right, he's not happy with the tackle and its not acceptable. I don't think he is accusing Shawcross of doing it deliberatly when he says it's not a coincidence cos he goes on to say that the reason its not a coincidence is cos teams are physical against Arsenal. When you play physically then even if its within the letter of the law you are always going to have accidents like this one.

I know Wenger is the manager all Bolton fans seem to love to hate and granted he does say some idiot things at time but i see nothing out of order in his comments this time. This is the 2nd player he has lost to a horrendous injury in just a few seasons and straight after the match its hardly surprising he's hacked off and angry about it. Look at the uproar you lot sent up over the Gallas on Davies challenge and he was back playing within a week or so. Ramsey won't be.

I believe that we've lost 4 players to injury from Arsenal players alone in the last 5 years. So frankly it is bollox from Arsene to suggest you have some kind of victims status. Or are any different to the rest of us.

Anyway, where's Cockeny Rebel when you need him? I need to explain karma to the man, slowly and at length.

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

Yoonited etc. (dodgy decisions aside) get more penalty decisions against lower tems in the division, probably , cos they spend more time in the oppo's pengy area.

Quicker players on their feet (again generally in the top half of the Prem) are more likely to get caught than us donkey's down the bottom, maybe coz they're just that half a yard quicker.

United, in particular, are also likely to get more penalty decisions because they get more bodies in the box when the need arises - you watch our attacks, and we tend to have two or three tops in the box when we have possession in the final third - two strikers, one central midfielder. The opposite winger is often nowhere to be seen. Other midfielders are often waiting for the second ball deeper. Only time we deviate is when we have a set piece, because our team have seen the value of them over the recent years.

United, because they have the quicker players, usually have four or five - strikers, blind side winger, attacking midfielder and, depending on where the ball is, deeper midfielder (if ball out wide) or other winger (if ball is with deeper midfielder). You see how often, and from where, someone like Fletcher gets onto crosses. It's not from that deep. Only time they don't do this is when they're on the break, because it's so quick.

[Prufrock]

Ramsey's nicked the ball at full pelt from Shawcross' blind side, from what I saw - if he had intention of hurting Ramsey, young Ryan should be called up for England just for having the peripheral vision of a fecking house fly. Ramsey's not pulled out of it, he's just nicked the ball and Shawcross' momentum has taken his foot into the ankle. It's a late challenge borne out of just being a split second slower to the ball than the other lad. Like Eduardo and Mark Davies, it's just unfortunate that Ramsey was that little bit too quick.

I wish Aaron Ramsey well in his recovery - no-one wants to see a player carried off in such a way. I hope Ryan Shawcross can put any demons this causes to bed quickly - no-one would expect a "thug" to be in tears after realising what he's done.

And - I really can't believe that it's got to the stage of having to type this - much respect to the Stoke fans for their feelings towards Ramsey. A stadium full of people giving the lad a sympathetic standing ovation, no gestures towards his stretcher, no moronic cheers or jeers, no goading of the injured player as he's going off.

This, entirely Baab.

Yoonited etc. (dodgy decisions aside) get more penalty decisions against lower tems in the division, probably , cos they spend more time in the oppo's pengy area.

Quicker players on their feet (again generally in the top half of the Prem) are more likely to get caught than us donkey's down the bottom, maybe coz they're just that half a yard quicker.

100% agree with both of these. First of all wish Ramsey well, cracking, cracking player, and hopefully it won't be an occasion where he doesn't come back the same. It will affect Shawcross too, hopefully not too much coz I don't think he's far off Cahill in terms of future England prospects. He's clearly not trying to hurt Ramsey. He gets a bit of a nudge as he is making the tackle too, and Ramsay is just too quick. First glance I thought booking, seeing it again I think it was a red, but no malice.

Arsenal have more of the ball, therefore get fouled more. You get fouled more, you're more likely to suffer unfortunate injuries. Add tot hat their players are quicker too... I can quite see managers saying close them down quickly, don't give them time, I cant see managers saying go out to hurt them, and Shawcross hasn't, like Martin Taylor didn't, and like Gallas didn't, they were just beaten by someone quicker. It's unfortunate, but it happens.

[Worthy4England]

Yoonited etc. (dodgy decisions aside) get more penalty decisions against lower tems in the division, probably , cos they spend more time in the oppo's pengy area.

Quicker players on their feet (again generally in the top half of the Prem) are more likely to get caught than us donkey's down the bottom, maybe coz they're just that half a yard quicker.

United, in particular, are also likely to get more penalty decisions because they get more bodies in the box when the need arises - you watch our attacks, and we tend to have two or three tops in the box when we have possession in the final third - two strikers, one central midfielder. The opposite winger is often nowhere to be seen. Other midfielders are often waiting for the second ball deeper. Only time we deviate is when we have a set piece, because our team have seen the value of them over the recent years.

United, because they have the quicker players, usually have four or five - strikers, blind side winger, attacking midfielder and, depending on where the ball is, deeper midfielder (if ball out wide) or other winger (if ball is with deeper midfielder). You see how often, and from where, someone like Fletcher gets onto crosses. It's not from that deep. Only time they don't do this is when they're on the break, because it's so quick.

So you agree it's all about bent refs then.

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

I believe that we've lost 4 players to injury from Arsenal players alone in the last 5 years. So frankly it is bollox from Arsene to suggest you have some kind of victims status. Or are any different to the rest of us.

Anyway, where's Cockeny Rebel when you need him? I need to explain karma to the man, slowly and at length.

Can I just repeat my view that we're better people than the twatnecks that often pollute this place, and many other sites, boffing on about Arsenal? That we don't need to stoop to the levels of telling them that Arsenal players had this coming, or that it's karma? This isn't karma. It's an unfortunate incident that should only be used as a reminder that, actually, football fans can be human and thoughtful, rather than rabid hypocritical cry babies that are giving the rest of us a bad name?

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

Yoonited etc. (dodgy decisions aside) get more penalty decisions against lower tems in the division, probably , cos they spend more time in the oppo's pengy area.

Quicker players on their feet (again generally in the top half of the Prem) are more likely to get caught than us donkey's down the bottom, maybe coz they're just that half a yard quicker.

United, in particular, are also likely to get more penalty decisions because they get more bodies in the box when the need arises - you watch our attacks, and we tend to have two or three tops in the box when we have possession in the final third - two strikers, one central midfielder. The opposite winger is often nowhere to be seen. Other midfielders are often waiting for the second ball deeper. Only time we deviate is when we have a set piece, because our team have seen the value of them over the recent years.

United, because they have the quicker players, usually have four or five - strikers, blind side winger, attacking midfielder and, depending on where the ball is, deeper midfielder (if ball out wide) or other winger (if ball is with deeper midfielder). You see how often, and from where, someone like Fletcher gets onto crosses. It's not from that deep. Only time they don't do this is when they're on the break, because it's so quick.

So you agree it's all about bent refs then.

That as well!

[Prufrock]

I believe that we've lost 4 players to injury from Arsenal players alone in the last 5 years. So frankly it is bollox from Arsene to suggest you have some kind of victims status. Or are any different to the rest of us.

Anyway, where's Cockeny Rebel when you need him? I need to explain karma to the man, slowly and at length.

Can I just repeat my view that we're better people than the twatnecks that often pollute this place, and many other sites, boffing on about Arsenal? That we don't need to stoop to the levels of telling them that Arsenal players had this coming, or that it's karma? This isn't karma. It's an unfortunate incident that should only be used as a reminder that, actually, football fans can be human and thoughtful, rather than rabid hypocritical cry babies that are giving the rest of us a bad name?

Indeed, even if karma wasn't bollox, which it is, whoever suggested Ramsey getting a broken leg for Gallas's tackle clearly doesn't understand the idea of it anyway. And I echo your sentiments re:Stoke fans. I have a minor soft side for Sheff Utd, which stems to the game where Dean Holden broke his leg, and two tiers of their fans gave him a standing ovation off. Obviously the Ramsey incident wasn't 'nice to see', but that element of it does reaffirm faith in people in general.

[Lord Kangana]

And I'll repeat my view. If some scrote wants to come on here and get all gobby about one of our players, after A) Him being injured by an horrendous tackle and B) Them profiting from it, then I reserve the right to not rise above it. As I say, what goes around comes around. Ergo, karma. Set of sh*tc*nts.

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

It is your right to not rise above it. But you're better than that.

It would have been karma had Shawcross twatted them instead of Ramsey. It would have been much, much more satisfying. Which Ramsey's injury isn't.

And I completely agree with your final sentence.

[thebish]

all seems quite simple to me.

1. I feel desperately sorry for Ramsey and wish him a speedy recovery

2. I also feel quite sorry for shawcross

3. boltonaremysecondteam is a rare exception to 4.

4. Gooners are mostly beneath contempt

5. Wenger is a tool

[Raven]

Hideously classless interview from Wenger just now.

Saying it was a horrendous tackle. It was TOTALLY 50/50 and either player could have come out the way Ramsey sadly did.

Moreover, it was obvious to anyone watching it was a 50/50, and that Shawcross was in tears, horrified by the events, and Wenger pours it on.

I love watching Arsenal, Fabregas alone is worth the "admission price" but Wenger had no need to say those things.

Its about time someone in power did something about Wengers stupid comments, getting so tiresome, not only inaccurate but childish at times too, also forget certain instances!

Hope Ramsey gets better and back to his best soon