Aaron Ramsey

[Zulus Thousand of em]

all seems quite simple to me.

1. I feel desperately sorry for Ramsey and wish him a speedy recovery

2. I also feel quite sorry for shawcross

3. boltonaremysecondteam is a rare exception to 4.

4. Gooners are mostly beneath contempt

5. Wenger is a tool

... and Benitez is a prick. That should never be forgotten. (Oh, hang on... wrong thread!)

[FD]

It truly irks me the way Wenger claims they don't get enough protection.

They get EXACTLY the same "protection" that every other club does, which is exactly as it should be, ie FAIR and the SAME.

I'd like to se any evidence that suggest Arsenal have had more of these types of "serious" injuries since the premier leagues inception, rather than just the 5 years since they had their first one of its kind.

That aside, still hope Ramsey gets well soon, tremendous young talent and a horrific incident from a 50/50 challenge, could easily have been Shawcross that came of on a stretcher.

[hisroyalgingerness]

Wenger's comments really irked me, hypocritical bastard

[Hoboh]

Wengers only doing what we would do!! Shawcross would be a dead man walking in Bolton had that been one of our players, the Arse mob are no different, good luck to the lad.

[hisroyalgingerness]

I don't disagree. But when he can be so indifferent when his own players cause the challenges, I can't have that he can come out so strongly when he's on the receiving end.

[seanworth]

Didn't Wengers complain a month ago that throw ins should be replaced with free kicks because it was unfair that Delap could throw so far.

He is a total Wank full stop.

[James B]

can draw comparisons with the gallas tackle on m davies. both bad. both red. but neither malicious.

the difference here is pulis was spot on with his post match comments and admitted the challenge was bad. wenger brushed off the gallas incident and tried to divert the attention onto our tackles. which is why the guy is so disliked outside of arsenal fc. he's a gobsh*te and i have nil sympathy for him.

as for their fans. well i won't generalise cos i know one or two arsenal fans who i spoke to after the emirates game and they admitted it should have been a red. but the majority either dismissed it or took joy in the fact they were fighting back against cloggers like bolton with some tackling of their own. these will be the same people who are now spouting sh*te about their players being kicked until they break and acting as though they are the only ones who receive bad tackles. i have no sympathy for them either.

gutted for the lad though. and the aftermath to it was sickening to watch. the look of shock on his face and just trying to grab onto anyone nearby was horrific.

[as]

Gallas almost crippled Davies and the frog 'didn't see it', feck Wenger.

Shame for Ramsay, but I can't stand Arsenal players/fans/manager, they're even bigger wankers than both the local red giants (just).

[spikeykev]

Diaby breaks Campo's ankle,nearly rips Sneijer in two in a friendly,Gallas on Davis,Gallas on Nani, Eboue on Gio (barca match) this cracker from van perise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nvPRkHJ ... re=related and this jem from Herny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20If7fnKSyg , sums up what a hypocrital peice of trash Wegner really is.

[bw@bw]

Listening to R5Live - 606 tonight is DJ Spoony

Intro'd the programme by saying - "It was a bad injury but not a bad tackle - should not have been a red card"

Never thought of him as an anti-Gooner

[CAPSLOCK]

A Liverpool fan from Hackney

I really don't care what he thinks

[Bruce Rioja]

A Liverpool fan from Hackney

I really don't care what he thinks

That plays other people's records for a living. How in the name of the blazes did he get a job passing comment on football?

[as]

Listening to R5Live - 606 tonight is DJ Spoony

Intro'd the programme by saying - "It was a bad injury but not a bad tackle - should not have been a red card"

Never thought of him as an anti-Gooner

What a waste of space he is.

My mum knows more about football than him, he should stick to DJing and calling his homie's 'blood'.

And he just happens to be a Liverpool from....from East London....these things write themselves. I imagine his audience are those Arsenal kiddie's who've been on here recently

[David Lee's Hair]

But was it a sending off

I don't think it was.

The ref didn't initially he only sent Shawcross off after seeing it was a broken leg. Had it been a sending off offence he'd have been straight in with the red card surely?

[Tals-biggest-fan]

Quite annoyed, amazing player... and welsh... hopefully he can return soon to help towards the Euros!!!

[Zulus Thousand of em]

Quite annoyed, amazing player... and welsh... hopefully he can return soon to help towards the Euros!!!

Has the exchange rate improved then?

[Athers]

But was it a sending off

I don't think it was.

The ref didn't initially he only sent Shawcross off after seeing it was a broken leg. Had it been a sending off offence he'd have been straight in with the red card surely?

Ref did check Ramsey first but then remember when we were lambasting the ref for not checking on a knocked-out Klasnic earlier in the season.

He'll have sent him off for the reason that it was a challenge made with excessive force and I don't think that's too wrong really.

[Hoboh]

Without having any "facts" to hand, just working off instinct, it does seem we get more fractures and serious mucle tears/pulls in the last few years on the pitch than in the days of old when tackles used to be about a week late in some instances.
Anyone have any thing on this? I seem to remember "Boots" being blamed for some of the injuries, you sure as hell didn't want a kick with the old steel toe bungers we wore even at school boy level.

[BWFC_Insane]

Without having any "facts" to hand, just working off instinct, it does seem we get more fractures and serious mucle tears/pulls in the last few years on the pitch than in the days of old when tackles used to be about a week late in some instances.
Anyone have any thing on this? I seem to remember "Boots" being blamed for some of the injuries, you sure as hell didn't want a kick with the old steel toe bungers we wore even at school boy level.

Weren't the spate of metatarsal injuries around when Beckham did his blamed on the new "thinner boots"? But it was more of an "I reckon" than any real evidence.

I certainly don't recall as many injuries in the past BUT is it that the level of reporting was just different. Now any major or even semi-serious injury is all over the news. In the past the first you heard about it was when they weren't in the team for a few weeks!

If there are more injuries it'll be down to the pace and intensity that football is now played at.

[Gary the Enfield]

I heard talk on the radio this morning that a News of the Screws 'photo showed Ramsey's foot planted and his leg at angle to his foot BEFORE Shawcross' impact which means his boots (blades) could have contributed significantly to the injury.

Anyone else heard this?