Today I'm angry about.....

[jimbo]

Don't know if this has been brought up before, BUT...hospital parking, today i am angry about hospital parking.

Got a phone call at work yesterday afternoon, 'try not to panic but your dad's been rushed into hospital'. So off i goes to the infirmary, where i spent half an hour trawling a circuit of the bastard place, not knowing if my dad was fecking alive or dead, trying to find a parking space, getting blocked in by indecisive old biddies stopping their Skoda in the middle then deciding to reverse back, well i cant reverse back you daft old cow i've got 8 cars behind me cos of the queue you've created.

In the end drove back half a mile to the main road, parked in a side street and ran to the fcking hospital...only to see my dad walking out of A&E, apparently he'd fainted at work and was just taken in as a precaution.

Angry? You bet i am !

(And then we go and get tatered 4-0)

I spend my life fecking about with hospital parking and I hate it. As a student we neither class as staff or visitor in most places. Where I am at the moment we have to park on an area of abandoned concrete about half a mile away from the hospital where 3 of my friends have already had there cars broken into (just enterred our 4th week there). Yesterday I had to be at a different hospital in the afternoon, so drove over there giving myself plenty of time only to find both the staff and visitor car parks full and having to wait in a bastard queue. I then wandered in late to clinic, receiving a bollocking off the consultant.

I share your anger. Pleased your dad is ok though!

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Don't know if this has been brought up before, BUT...hospital parking, today i am angry about hospital parking.

Got a phone call at work yesterday afternoon, 'try not to panic but your dad's been rushed into hospital'. So off i goes to the infirmary, where i spent half an hour trawling a circuit of the bastard place, not knowing if my dad was fecking alive or dead, trying to find a parking space, getting blocked in by indecisive old biddies stopping their Skoda in the middle then deciding to reverse back, well i cant reverse back you daft old cow i've got 8 cars behind me cos of the queue you've created.

In the end drove back half a mile to the main road, parked in a side street and ran to the fcking hospital...only to see my dad walking out of A&E, apparently he'd fainted at work and was just taken in as a precaution.

Angry? You bet i am !

(And then we go and get tatered 4-0)

I spend my life fecking about with hospital parking and I hate it. As a student we neither class as staff or visitor in most places. Where I am at the moment we have to park on an area of abandoned concrete about half a mile away from the hospital where 3 of my friends have already had there cars broken into (just enterred our 4th week there). Yesterday I had to be at a different hospital in the afternoon, so drove over there giving myself plenty of time only to find both the staff and visitor car parks full and having to wait in a bastard queue. I then wandered in late to clinic, receiving a bollocking off the consultant.

I share your anger. Pleased your dad is ok though!

Cheers man

When my wife went into labour last year, it was midnight on Easter Sunday and i still had to piss about looking for a space. I'd complain about it if i thought it would make a blind bit of difference.

Then, i parked up at Asda on Burnden, half 7 this morning, came back out ten mins later and in the midst of a vast deserted car park, some tool had parked right next to me and i had to squeeze to get in.

[as]

Not commented on this before, but it's all about personal opinions, so I'll venture one:

I got quite a few tannings as a ten year old for things like breaking a window, having a bow and arrow when forbidden to do so, no being home in time to the extent of causing worry etc. In other words, disobeying my parents rules. Very unfair at the time, I thought, but certainly not ignorable. Bullying in one form or another has existed has since time imemorial, but this wasn't just bullying, it was evil and caused the deliberate death of a child. I don't seem to hear much mention of parental responsibility amongst any of it..... I feel, somehow, that I should.

you and hobo have both described venables and thompson as "evil".

now - unless you're just using sloppy language (in which case - fair enough) - what precisely do you mean in describing someone (or someone's actions) as "evil"?

I actually think this is quite a serious issue...

if it was "evil" - then that suggests something inherent - from the "devil" - at least in its common usage - so how, in that case, do parents have any role in the matter?

you describe it as "evil" - and then prescribe a good tanning (or parental discipline) - can "evil" be beaten out of someone? is "evil" conquered by the imposition of childhood boundaries? if so - then you have a fairly weak definition of "evil" - hence my question - what precisely do you mean in describing it thus?

Can't you look in a dictionary?

I'm amazed people are arguing that them being 10 years old meant they didn't know what they were doing?

They brutally tortured and murdered an infant, I'll leave out some of the grim details of what they did, as we've all heard them before.

But, both kids knew what they were doing.

And so I will ask again how you, or anyone else claiming so knows this, despite the fact the authorities deemed them not to be 'evil' and deserving of a new start. It cannot be put any clearer than : They were ten years old. I know it's a while since some on here were ten, but the idea a ten year old kid has a notion of death, of consequence in anything like an adult sense is beyond me. Go and talk to a ten year old, and maybe you will realise you cannot apply adult logic to children.

They were a year off secondary school, they weren't fresh out of pampers. Of course they knew what they were doing! They didn't understand the consequences, but they sure as hell knew that the little kid wasn't going to get back up afterwards.

If you throw paint in someone's eyes - then it will blind them - even a 10 year old would understand that logic.

I spoke to a child that last night, my little sister, but stopped short of asking her if she knew that thowing bricks at an infant is wrong.

[superjohnmcginlay]

Tough one. But having re-read the events, its a bit too fooking calculated for me. Some reports state they had actually gone looking for a child to kill.

[Lord Kangana]

The question has to be asked as to why we have an age of consent, and indeed require children to attend some form of schooling to the age of sixteen, if we're now saying they understand all the issues. Indeed if kids know everything, why did James Bulger go off with them in the first place? I'd say grow up, but thats now a defunct concept apparently.

[superjohnmcginlay]

The question has to be asked as to why we have an age of consent, and indeed require children to attend some form of schooling to the age of sixteen, if we're now saying they understand all the issues. Indded if kids know everything, why did James Bulger gfo with them in the first place? I'd say grow up, but thats now a defunct concept apparently.

Because he was 2. There's a huge difference in development between 2 and 10.

[Lord Kangana]

Now we're making progress. So there's no difference between a ten year old and a sixteen year old?

[superjohnmcginlay]

Now we're making progress. So there's no difference between a ten year old and a sixteen year old?

Get to your point.

[Lord Kangana]

If you can't see it, I'm not sure its worth the effort. I'll be succinct, if a ten year old can be considered to have the reasoning of an adult, at what arbitrarily appointed age would you consider them to be "adult". 10? 9? 2?

[superjohnmcginlay]

If you can't see it, I'm not sure its worth the effort. I'll be succinct, if a ten year old can be considered to have the reasoning of an adult, at what arbitrarily appointed age would you consider them to be "adult". 10? 9? 2?

Of course I could see it, I just couldn't be arsed.

I'm not sure that's been said. There is no specific age at which someone is an "adult". Some develop early, some late.

[Hoboh]

The question has to be asked as to why we have an age of consent, and indeed require children to attend some form of schooling to the age of sixteen, if we're now saying they understand all the issues. Indeed if kids know everything, why did James Bulger go off with them in the first place? I'd say grow up, but thats now a defunct concept apparently.

Kids n babies are different yer lordship.

[Hoboh]

If you can't see it, I'm not sure its worth the effort. I'll be succinct, if a ten year old can be considered to have the reasoning of an adult, at what arbitrarily appointed age would you consider them to be "adult". 10? 9? 2?

Its nowt to do with that its when you know whats right and whats wrong.
Kids learn this from the day they walk and head off for the best china, ask any woman!

[BWFC_Insane]

People seem to have a hard job separating the legal system from politics.

The law is being applied. I don't see what the fook it has to do with anyone else, other than those involved.

Why the hell should anyone know what he's alleged to have done? What business is it of anyone?

I just cannot comprehend the seeming lust for "public justice".

Its scarmongering of the worst kind.

It's as bad as "Sarah's law". What if I'd like to know how many arsonists live near me? Or folk with dangerous dogs? Or vegetarians.

What a load of utter daily mail reading bullshit.

Some one moves into your street, you know nowt about them, they may turn out to be friendly invite you and your folk to BBQ etc, one day you have minor words, he burns your house down with your wife and kids inside asleep, turns out he done this before along with a few other torchings, I'd bet your ass you'd play feck demanding to know why he was free to live in your midst!!!
Reality and debates about freedoms and rights are not the same!

Folk always forget victims have rights!!!!

You've kind of made my point though. I'm sure we'd all like to know everything about all the folk that live round us. Doesn't mean we have a right to. And what makes parents special so that they find out about paedophiles but I can't about arsonists or murderers or people who own a gun etc etc.

I don't think we DO have a right to that knowledge simply because people that break the law are dealt with, in a suitable way.

I also have a shock for some people that 60 years ago paedophiles still existed. However, they were far more rarely reported or arrested and tended to be hidden away or ignored. So effectively their crimes continued. They tended to work as scout masters or teachers or worked in the church or even childcare institutions.

Its only now that as a society we make a massive fuss about it. Not saying we shouldn't but the hysteria is ridiculous (nods to Mr C Morris).

[superjohnmcginlay]

Seems some poor sod from Fleetwood's been caught up in this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... antes.html

[BWFC_Insane]

Seems some poor sod from Fleetwood's been caught up in this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... antes.html

Aye saw a message on Facebook bout this over the weekend. Didn't realise it had been going on so long.

Good old British public on a witch hunt.

The media and folks who spread this sort of shit without any evidence are the ones we should be really bothered about. Let the courts sort it out. They are there because they're a little bit better at it than some morons with facebook. As this clearly proves.

[Hoboh]

Seems some poor sod from Fleetwood's been caught up in this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... antes.html

Aye saw a message on Facebook bout this over the weekend. Didn't realise it had been going on so long.

Good old British public on a witch hunt.

The media and folks who spread this sort of shit without any evidence are the ones we should be really bothered about. Let the courts sort it out. They are there because they're a little bit better at it than some morons with facebook. As this clearly proves.

Phewwwww!!!!!!!!!!!! I never use facebook

[ohjimmyjimmy]

He's a witch, burn him

[as]

[thebish]

today i am mostly being angry about people who ring me up when i am not in (in itself summat to get cross about - why do that???) - and they leave me messages - even though they want ME to do summat for THEM - to phone them back ON A MOBILE NUMBER - which is gonna cost me squillions of quid to ring.. enough already - landline - or ring me when I'm in (and not otherwise engaged!)

[Bruce Rioja]

Don't know if this has been brought up before, BUT...hospital parking, today i am angry about hospital parking.

Got a phone call at work yesterday afternoon, 'try not to panic but your dad's been rushed into hospital'. So off i goes to the infirmary, where i spent half an hour trawling a circuit of the bastard place, not knowing if my dad was fecking alive or dead, trying to find a parking space, getting blocked in by indecisive old biddies stopping their Skoda in the middle then deciding to reverse back, well i cant reverse back you daft old cow i've got 8 cars behind me cos of the queue you've created.

In the end drove back half a mile to the main road, parked in a side street and ran to the fcking hospital...only to see my dad walking out of A&E, apparently he'd fainted at work and was just taken in as a precaution.

Angry? You bet i am !

(And then we go and get tatered 4-0)

Well look on the brightside, OJJ, had you parked on the hospital car park then you'd have had to pay for it!

Today, tomorrow and for every other day that they're charging to park on hospital car parks I'll be proper blazing about it. Especially at North Manchester where, and get this, even as a patient you're meant to know how long you'll be there because they have a pay and display.