Today I'm angry about.....

[Worthy4England]

I cannot speak of Spain but I can of English/U.K. 'back-packers'. No doubt it's a small percentage of yobs, but they do the reputation of the U.K. no good whatsoever. Why on this planet of ours would someone spend a significant amount of money to travel to a place far from home to then simply get drunk, be objectionable and/or complain about anything and everything? I can't, quite honestly, understand the minds of these cretins.

Qualifier: It appears that my fellow residents are no better when they travel overseas. It saddens me to see some of our citizens turning into the loud-mouthed American of yesteryear.

I was going to say, that in the case of Australia, it's probably done to try and fit in better with the locals...

But, I have to say, when planning holidays, I try and go for somewhere where there's not likely to be many Brits to be honest. I haven't bothered with Spain for 30 years.

[Dujon]

. . . I was going to say, that in the case of Australia, it's probably done to try and fit in better with the locals...

And there's me trying ever so hard to fit into the format of this forum.

[Prufrock]

Some stupid bitch on the news tonight, kid is in Alder Hey having nine baby teeth out due to eating amongst other things 5 lollies a day, mum does sob piece to camera including the line, "I feel like it's my fault'. Oh, do you now, wonder why on earth that could be.

[William the White]

I cannot speak of Spain but I can of English/U.K. 'back-packers'. No doubt it's a small percentage of yobs, but they do the reputation of the U.K. no good whatsoever. Why on this planet of ours would someone spend a significant amount of money to travel to a place far from home to then simply get drunk, be objectionable and/or complain about anything and everything? I can't, quite honestly, understand the minds of these cretins.

Qualifier: It appears that my fellow residents are no better when they travel overseas. It saddens me to see some of our citizens turning into the loud-mouthed American of yesteryear.

I was going to say, that in the case of Australia, it's probably done to try and fit in better with the locals...

But, I have to say, when planning holidays, I try and go for somewhere where there's not likely to be many Brits to be honest. I haven't bothered with Spain for 30 years.

Oh man - sevilla, cordoba, granada, segovia, avila - and madrid, barcelona... some of the most brilliant places in the entire world... unmissable...

[TANGODANCER]

Oh man - sevilla, cordoba, granada, segovia, avila - and madrid, barcelona... some of the most brilliant places in the entire world... unmissable...

Add Ronda to that list, and Malaga, the place everybody flies to and few stay in, is a great place. Even a bus ride out of places like Benalmadena into the villages is a great experience. Granada and the Alhambra Palace is something everybody should see at least once. Stunning.

[Hoboh]

San Antonio, loads of food left in the street through the night (some of it still wrapped), half bottles of vodka, nice benches too!

[William the White]

San Antonio, loads of food left in the street through the night (some of it still wrapped), half bottles of vodka, nice benches too!

no sidra?

[William the White]

Oh man - sevilla, cordoba, granada, segovia, avila - and madrid, barcelona... some of the most brilliant places in the entire world... unmissable...

Add Ronda to that list, and Malaga, the place everybody flies to and few stay in, is a great place. Even a bus ride out of places like Benalmadena into the villages is a great experience. Granada and the Alhambra Palace is something everybody should see at least once. Stunning.

Should not be missed - go in January... only in that month are the crowds controllable... i was fortunate - first went there in 1983 - could wander round all day and walk back to the city without the thunder of coaches bringing them in by the thousands...

[Worthy4England]

I cannot speak of Spain but I can of English/U.K. 'back-packers'. No doubt it's a small percentage of yobs, but they do the reputation of the U.K. no good whatsoever. Why on this planet of ours would someone spend a significant amount of money to travel to a place far from home to then simply get drunk, be objectionable and/or complain about anything and everything? I can't, quite honestly, understand the minds of these cretins.

Qualifier: It appears that my fellow residents are no better when they travel overseas. It saddens me to see some of our citizens turning into the loud-mouthed American of yesteryear.

I was going to say, that in the case of Australia, it's probably done to try and fit in better with the locals...

But, I have to say, when planning holidays, I try and go for somewhere where there's not likely to be many Brits to be honest. I haven't bothered with Spain for 30 years.

Oh man - sevilla, cordoba, granada, segovia, avila - and madrid, barcelona... some of the most brilliant places in the entire world... unmissable...

I would personally have no probs visiting most of those places - It'd be a tough sell to the missus and kids though, so we'd end up somewhere more "touristy", which means I wouldn't particularly want to go.

[General Mannerheim]

I cannot speak of Spain but I can of English/U.K. 'back-packers'. No doubt it's a small percentage of yobs, but they do the reputation of the U.K. no good whatsoever. Why on this planet of ours would someone spend a significant amount of money to travel to a place far from home to then simply get drunk, be objectionable and/or complain about anything and everything? I can't, quite honestly, understand the minds of these cretins.

Qualifier: It appears that my fellow residents are no better when they travel overseas. It saddens me to see some of our citizens turning into the loud-mouthed American of yesteryear.

I was going to say, that in the case of Australia, it's probably done to try and fit in better with the locals...

But, I have to say, when planning holidays, I try and go for somewhere where there's not likely to be many Brits to be honest. I haven't bothered with Spain for 30 years.

Oh man - sevilla, cordoba, granada, segovia, avila - and madrid, barcelona... some of the most brilliant places in the entire world... unmissable...

I would personally have no probs visiting most of those places - It'd be a tough sell to the missus and kids though, so we'd end up somewhere more "touristy", which means I wouldn't particularly want to go.

See when i book a holiday, a relaxing poolside family job anyway, i make extended effort to make sure everybody in my hotel is British, or predominately British at least. I have had some bad experiences with late deals n’that where ive ended up in a hotel overrun by foreign punters, where even the reps and entertainment staff were also foreign. Sat by the pool while they’re doing a 'pub quiz' in German isn’t the most fun ive had on me jollies! And who wants their little ones to attend the kiddies disco when its full of giddy boxheads running round to David Hasselhoff tunes! Plus late night headlocks and hand crushing handshakes from huge vodka fuelled Russians still in speedo’s trying to be affectionate don’t help either!

Fuertaventura this year, very nice.

[thebish]

The Student Finance England online application form has to be the most rubbish and broken web application ever concieved. It would be quicker and more reliable to tame a wild buffalo, train it to write with a hoof pen, get it to fill out the form on paper and then attach it (the form, not the buffalo) to a one-winged carrier pigeon and send it blindfolded to the Gov. offices via the pigeon-eating village of Guap..

[jimbo]

The Student Finance England online application form has to be the most rubbish and broken web application ever concieved. It would be quicker and more reliable to tame a wild buffalo, train it to write with a hoof pen, get it to fill out the form on paper and then attach it (the form, not the buffalo) to a one-winged carrier pigeon and send it blindfolded to the Gov. offices via the pigeon-eating village of Guap..

Thanks for reminding me - reapplying for next year was on my to do list for the afternoon and I'd forgotten.

[thebish]

The Student Finance England online application form has to be the most rubbish and broken web application ever concieved. It would be quicker and more reliable to tame a wild buffalo, train it to write with a hoof pen, get it to fill out the form on paper and then attach it (the form, not the buffalo) to a one-winged carrier pigeon and send it blindfolded to the Gov. offices via the pigeon-eating village of Guap..

Thanks for reminding me - reapplying for next year was on my to do list for the afternoon and I'd forgotten.

start taming the buffalo!

[jimbo]

The Student Finance England online application form has to be the most rubbish and broken web application ever concieved. It would be quicker and more reliable to tame a wild buffalo, train it to write with a hoof pen, get it to fill out the form on paper and then attach it (the form, not the buffalo) to a one-winged carrier pigeon and send it blindfolded to the Gov. offices via the pigeon-eating village of Guap..

Thanks for reminding me - reapplying for next year was on my to do list for the afternoon and I'd forgotten.

start taming the buffalo!

Done. I remember it being a nuisance first time round with having to send off passports etc. After that it's surprisingly easy adding another £7k to your already spiralling debt.

[thebish]

The Student Finance England online application form has to be the most rubbish and broken web application ever concieved. It would be quicker and more reliable to tame a wild buffalo, train it to write with a hoof pen, get it to fill out the form on paper and then attach it (the form, not the buffalo) to a one-winged carrier pigeon and send it blindfolded to the Gov. offices via the pigeon-eating village of Guap..

Thanks for reminding me - reapplying for next year was on my to do list for the afternoon and I'd forgotten.

start taming the buffalo!

Done. I remember it being a nuisance first time round with having to send off passports etc. After that it's surprisingly easy adding another £7k to your already spiralling debt.

bastard! still won't work for me!

1. we don't know what his address will be - yet it asks for one - and says "don't worry if you don't know yet - leave it blank and continue"

if you leave it blank and continue it reports an error - unfilled boxes - and won't let you continue.

2. it asks for the dates of birth of other dependant children. i fill in 19/05/1994 and 29/06/1996 - which it then converts to 18/05/1994 and 28/06/1996 for no apparent rreason!

when I ring to ask why it does this I am told that it must be because the system is busy! Bollox - it wouldn't do that if it was busy - it is an error!

3. having filled in "not known" for the address boxes - which it accepts - and put in DoBs as one day later so that it knocks one off to get the right ones - we get right to the end and press submit

it reports and error and suggests clicking continue to go back to where the error is. when you do that - NOTHING FECKING HAPPENS!

arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

the man on the phone says it might be easier to print out the app form and send it by post - if that is so - what is the point of offering an online service???

[jimbo]

I had the address problem as well - they've never done that before otherwise I'd have encountered it in the past. I'm moving to Blackpool next year and have no idea of the address. I just put down the one I'm in at the moment. If they have a problem with that then I guess I won't be getting my money!

[Prufrock]

The first time was annoying, just because it's so much information, after that I've always found it easy to deal with. I imagine they have introduced more new data, and there are teething problems with that.

[Worthy4England]

Gardening.

That is all.

[Bruce Rioja]

The Student Finance England online application form

Do they do courses in God bothering?

[Always hopeful]

Volcanoes.