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books are good - and fresh air - and I quite like grass... just an opinion..TANGODANCER wrote:Pass the salt Bish. I take everything with a pinch of it.thebish wrote:but on this particular question - 97.5% of climatologists who have researched the issue and published peer-reviewed studies - AGREE.TANGODANCER wrote:All seems a bit like a "Hear we go round the mulberry bush" argument. Experts disagre on almost everything, so how expert are they really? Is one better/more accurate than another? They're still arguing about the pyramids, King Arthur, the Turin Shroud, the Bible and what happened to Lord Lucan and Shergar. I'm with the "if we can do something about problems do it, rather than ust hope they go away" camp, but, in this case, nobody seems to know for sure if there is one.
is that not enough?
and I am using a more precise term - "climatologists" - rather than the less-easy-to-define term "experts" - that you have introduced.

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your pathetic attempt to draw a lame link between my being a vicar - and theology - and therefore not accepting the big bang theory is (frankly) one of the most pathetic things I have read on these forums full-stop.
I suspect you are throwing smoke and kicking up sand merely to disguise the obvious fact that you have no basis for your scientific claims at all - it is all just a hunch (a bad one - but a hunch, no less) Everyone is allowed hunches - just don't try to pass it off as science.
My bold. Bish, dear chap. Accept my apology for any demeaning of your position. I was stating an opinion is all. As an atheist of long standing I shouldn't have made a cheap tongue in cheek jibe. You opinions are as valid to me as my own. Just because we see the world from different aspects doesn't make us different. I have quite a deal of respect for you and your opinion and would hope you would reciprocate in like manner.
On a different tack, there are something like 30 million scientists in the US. A series of questions were asked about climate from a select group of said scientists, which includes engineers, meterologists, thos not quite within reach of a degree, those long ago with a degree and probably a few medical researchers as well. It's figures punted out. Like Neptune and Mars warming up and they don't have cows and diesel engines. The sun is claimed to be cooling and despite sunspot activity being on an eleven year cycle, even this seems to be going awry. Figures can be manipulated, often are, particularly by governments, who want to be viewed as saviours of humanity. It'll always go on nomatter scientific or non-scientific argument. At the end of the day it is our (my) lack of scientific knowledge that will destroy this planet.
On a brighter note it'll be the footie season soon and we can talk footie bollox instead of bollox-bollox
I suspect you are throwing smoke and kicking up sand merely to disguise the obvious fact that you have no basis for your scientific claims at all - it is all just a hunch (a bad one - but a hunch, no less) Everyone is allowed hunches - just don't try to pass it off as science.
My bold. Bish, dear chap. Accept my apology for any demeaning of your position. I was stating an opinion is all. As an atheist of long standing I shouldn't have made a cheap tongue in cheek jibe. You opinions are as valid to me as my own. Just because we see the world from different aspects doesn't make us different. I have quite a deal of respect for you and your opinion and would hope you would reciprocate in like manner.
On a different tack, there are something like 30 million scientists in the US. A series of questions were asked about climate from a select group of said scientists, which includes engineers, meterologists, thos not quite within reach of a degree, those long ago with a degree and probably a few medical researchers as well. It's figures punted out. Like Neptune and Mars warming up and they don't have cows and diesel engines. The sun is claimed to be cooling and despite sunspot activity being on an eleven year cycle, even this seems to be going awry. Figures can be manipulated, often are, particularly by governments, who want to be viewed as saviours of humanity. It'll always go on nomatter scientific or non-scientific argument. At the end of the day it is our (my) lack of scientific knowledge that will destroy this planet.
On a brighter note it'll be the footie season soon and we can talk footie bollox instead of bollox-bollox

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Yes, but 9.75 out of 10 owners said their cats preferred it.thebish wrote:but on this particular question - 97.5% of climatologists who have researched the issue and published peer-reviewed studies - AGREE.TANGODANCER wrote:All seems a bit like a "Hear we go round the mulberry bush" argument. Experts disagre on almost everything, so how expert are they really? Is one better/more accurate than another? They're still arguing about the pyramids, King Arthur, the Turin Shroud, the Bible and what happened to Lord Lucan and Shergar. I'm with the "if we can do something about problems do it, rather than ust hope they go away" camp, but, in this case, nobody seems to know for sure if there is one.
is that not enough?
and I am using a more precise term - "climatologists" - rather than the less-easy-to-define term "experts" - that you have introduced.
Someone had better tell Jimmy Carr!Worthy4England wrote:Yes, but 9.75 out of 10 owners said their cats preferred it.thebish wrote:but on this particular question - 97.5% of climatologists who have researched the issue and published peer-reviewed studies - AGREE.TANGODANCER wrote:All seems a bit like a "Hear we go round the mulberry bush" argument. Experts disagre on almost everything, so how expert are they really? Is one better/more accurate than another? They're still arguing about the pyramids, King Arthur, the Turin Shroud, the Bible and what happened to Lord Lucan and Shergar. I'm with the "if we can do something about problems do it, rather than ust hope they go away" camp, but, in this case, nobody seems to know for sure if there is one.
is that not enough?
and I am using a more precise term - "climatologists" - rather than the less-easy-to-define term "experts" - that you have introduced.
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Yes, but 9.75 out of 10 owners said their cats preferred it.[/quotWorthy4England wrote:thebish wrote:but on this particular question - 97.5% of climatologists who have researched the issue and published peer-reviewed studies - AGREE.TANGODANCER wrote:All seems a bit like a "Hear we go round the mulberry bush" argument. Experts disagre on almost everything, so how expert are they really? Is one better/more accurate than another? They're still arguing about the pyramids, King Arthur, the Turin Shroud, the Bible and what happened to Lord Lucan and Shergar. I'm with the "if we can do something about problems do it, rather than ust hope they go away" camp, but, in this case, nobody seems to know for sure if there is one.
is that not enough?
and I am using a more precise term - "climatologists" - rather than the less-easy-to-define term "experts" - that you have introduced.
Is that the same ten they use when they say ninety percent of women use---(insert product) . Usually with an American accent. Nothing mentioned of all the women they didn't ask all over the world.

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Mr Hayward told reporters he had thought "long and hard" about the right course of action before deciding that to move forward in the US, BP needed new leadership. But the outgoing CEO was rather more blunt off-camera, saying he had become the face of the Gulf of Mexico disaster and had been "demonised and vilified". "BP cannot move on in the US with me as its leader... Life isn't fair," he said. "Sometimes you step off the pavement and get hit by a bus."
Anyone got a bus timetable?under the terms of his contract Mr Hayward - who has led the firm since 2007 - would receive a year's salary in lieu of notice, amounting to just over £1m.(and a new job)
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