The Politics Thread

[thebish]

It seems that Gordon Brown's warning that trying to cut the deficit too quicky and causing too much uncertainty over jobs could risk the recovery and take the country back into recession was more or less, bob on.

no shit! double-dip here we come... then the savings made by hiring credit reference agencies to combat benefit fraud will be dwarfed 100-fold by the increase in the welfare budget from those genuinely unemployed....

[Hoboh]

It seems that Gordon Brown's warning that trying to cut the deficit too quicky and causing too much uncertainty over jobs could risk the recovery and take the country back into recession was more or less, bob on.

no shit! double-dip here we come... then the savings made by hiring credit reference agencies to combat benefit fraud will be dwarfed 100-fold by the increase in the welfare budget from those genuinely unemployed....

Aye but you both forgot convienently about Browns solution of not cutting but continueing to spend, wherewould that leave us?

[thebish]

It seems that Gordon Brown's warning that trying to cut the deficit too quicky and causing too much uncertainty over jobs could risk the recovery and take the country back into recession was more or less, bob on.

no shit! double-dip here we come... then the savings made by hiring credit reference agencies to combat benefit fraud will be dwarfed 100-fold by the increase in the welfare budget from those genuinely unemployed....

Aye but you both forgot convienently about Browns solution of not cutting but continueing to spend, wherewould that leave us?

with a carefull managed growth-led solution alongside cuts rather than a slash-and-burn jobs clearance....

anyway - relax - cameron promised us he would not lead us into a double dip recession - so, nowt to worry about...

[BWFC_Insane]

It seems that Gordon Brown's warning that trying to cut the deficit too quicky and causing too much uncertainty over jobs could risk the recovery and take the country back into recession was more or less, bob on.

no shit! double-dip here we come... then the savings made by hiring credit reference agencies to combat benefit fraud will be dwarfed 100-fold by the increase in the welfare budget from those genuinely unemployed....

Aye but you both forgot convienently about Browns solution of not cutting but continueing to spend, wherewould that leave us?

Call me old fashioned but I think that having taken us successfully out of a recession their aim was not to plunge us back into one.

Hey whadda I know?

[superjohnmcginlay]

All I've read is there is a chance. Where has this certainty of it come from?

[thebish]

All I've read is there is a chance. Where has this certainty of it come from?

bitter experience.

[superjohnmcginlay]

Well you are old.

[thebish]

Well you are old.

indeed! the wisdom bleeds from my ancient pores!

[Bruce Rioja]

Well you are old.

And bitter.

[thebish]

Well you are old.

And bitter.

indeed, sweetie!

[Hoboh]

It seems that Gordon Brown's warning that trying to cut the deficit too quicky and causing too much uncertainty over jobs could risk the recovery and take the country back into recession was more or less, bob on.

no shit! double-dip here we come... then the savings made by hiring credit reference agencies to combat benefit fraud will be dwarfed 100-fold by the increase in the welfare budget from those genuinely unemployed....

Aye but you both forgot convienently about Browns solution of not cutting but continueing to spend, wherewould that leave us?

Call me old fashioned but I think that having taken us successfully out of a recession their aim was not to plunge us back into one.

Hey whadda I know?

OUT????
Call me old fashioned but I think that we were slap bang in the middle of a recession that was looking seriously like it was going to get like the Greeks!!! No money to pay anyone!

Hey whadda I know?

[BWFC_Insane]

It seems that Gordon Brown's warning that trying to cut the deficit too quicky and causing too much uncertainty over jobs could risk the recovery and take the country back into recession was more or less, bob on.

no shit! double-dip here we come... then the savings made by hiring credit reference agencies to combat benefit fraud will be dwarfed 100-fold by the increase in the welfare budget from those genuinely unemployed....

Aye but you both forgot convienently about Browns solution of not cutting but continueing to spend, wherewould that leave us?

Call me old fashioned but I think that having taken us successfully out of a recession their aim was not to plunge us back into one.

Hey whadda I know?

OUT????
Call me old fashioned but I think that we were slap bang in the middle of a recession that was looking seriously like it was going to get like the Greeks!!! No money to pay anyone!

Hey whadda I know?

Ermm not much. Because we weren't in a recession and thats a fact.

Chances are we're about to plunge back into one.

Whilst I do not profess to be an economic expert of ANY sort Hoboh your last post is a bit of an embarrassment really.

[Bruce Rioja]

Ermm not much. Because we weren't in a recession and thats a fact.

Given the current measuring system then yes, you are factually correct. But in reality I think it poor for the left to be trying to take some sort of highground here.

[BWFC_Insane]

Ermm not much. Because we weren't in a recession and thats a fact.

Given the current measuring system then yes, you are factually correct. But in reality I think it poor for the left to be trying to take some sort of highground here.

Brown warned that Tory policy would lead to a double dip recession.

That appears to be what is happening.

Nobody is taking the "highground". What I'm worried about is the country ending up in a depression, which if the Government carry on as they are is a very real possibility.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Ermm not much. Because we weren't in a recession and thats a fact.

Chances are we're about to plunge back into one.

[Bruce Rioja]

Brown warned that Tory policy would lead to a double dip recession.

Brown warned? Oh well that's alright then.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Labour has accused David Cameron of committing a gaffe by mistakenly claiming Iran has a nuclear weapon. Asked why he was backing Turkey to join the EU he said it could help solve the world's problems, "like the Middle East peace process, like the fact that Iran has got a nuclear weapon".

British Prime Minister David Cameron has warned Pakistan not to have any relationship with groups that "promote the export of terror". He said that he would be raising the issue with his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh when they held talks in Delhi on Thursday.

David Cameron has been criticised after mistakenly saying the UK was the "junior partner" in the allied World War II fight against Germany in 1940.

Where angels fear to tread. Clueless fecker.

Worthy, forgetting number 1 (as I think that's best ) I don't see your problem with number 2 and re 3 in whose view was he mistaken?

I read this last week, but not on my computer.

I actually didn't have a problem with 2/3 either, but with number 3 being the one that grated with me.

Number one was just an understandable slip of the tongue and it was absolutely clear he was talking about Iran's potential to have a nuclear weapon one day (given their pursuit of one, which is not disputed by many). And for feck's sake, he was speaking to a few voters in Brighton, not at the UN.

Number two - seems fair enough to me! I was shocked by the Pakistani reaction... I think he's been right to stand by those worse, no matter how many DC effigies those civilised Pakistantis burn in the street.

Number three - ok, this was a bad one... obviously nobody doubts that we're the junior partner in general, but to make that mistake about 1940, even if we understand the context that he was trying to ingratiate himself to his diplomatic hosts... well it's not ideal, put it that way. Nobody really believes it springs from a fundamental ignorance of the history though, do they?

[BWFC_Insane]

Ermm not much. Because we weren't in a recession and thats a fact.

Chances are we're about to plunge back into one.

When Labour left power we weren't in a recession. They'd pulled us out of one.

I'd have thought that was fairly simple.

The Tories are now through their slash and burn policies are in danger of dragging us back down into one, and potentially further down the line into a depression.

[TANGODANCER]

Number three - ok, this was a bad one... obviously nobody doubts that we're the junior partner in general, but to make that mistake about 1940, even if we understand the context that he was trying to ingratiate himself to his diplomatic hosts... well it's not ideal, put it that way. Nobody really believes it springs from a fundamental ignorance of the history though, do they?

Politicians are mathematicians, not historians. History is the last four years. Ancient history goes back as far as Margaret Thatcher.

[thebish]

Number three - ok, this was a bad one... obviously nobody doubts that we're the junior partner in general, but to make that mistake about 1940, even if we understand the context that he was trying to ingratiate himself to his diplomatic hosts... well it's not ideal, put it that way. Nobody really believes it springs from a fundamental ignorance of the history though, do they?

Politicians are mathematicians, not historians. History is the last four years. Ancient history goes back as far as Margaret Thatcher.

no - they are not.