Trash!

[CAPSLOCK]

Usually the case with you 'make an excuse for every shithouse walking the earth' liberals....

But make plans, cos when I am King you're against the wall

[thebish]

Usually the case with you 'make an excuse for every shithouse walking the earth' liberals....

But make plans, cos when I am King you're against the wall

calm down old man - who has anyone made an excuse for? (as for having me against the wall - keep your sexual preferences to yourself - it's creepy...)

[Worthy4England]

apart from it creating a society I wouldn't want to live in - there's little evidence it would work..

the workhouse never stopped poor people having kids... neither does China's 1-child-only law...

No one's saying that the poor can't have kids. Just that if they do, then they shouldn't expect others to pay for them.

Worthy is saying exactly that. if you have not enough dosh to raise one - you do not get a license - and it is illegal for you to have one. if you fall pregnant without a license - then your foetus is aborted - you are sterilized and your sexual partner castrated.

No - Worthy isn't. This is like reading the Daily Mail, but from the opposite point of view.

People can shag each other to death, as long as the taxpayer picks up the bill.?

If we dare criticise, it's nothing to do whatsoever that you had a shag, it's up to society to pick up the bill, because it was an accident?

fooking great philosophy.

Half the folk on this debate don't actually pay tax....

Easy to be generous with other people's money...

[thebish]

apart from it creating a society I wouldn't want to live in - there's little evidence it would work..

the workhouse never stopped poor people having kids... neither does China's 1-child-only law...

No one's saying that the poor can't have kids. Just that if they do, then they shouldn't expect others to pay for them.

Worthy is saying exactly that. if you have not enough dosh to raise one - you do not get a license - and it is illegal for you to have one. if you fall pregnant without a license - then your foetus is aborted - you are sterilized and your sexual partner castrated.

No - Worthy isn't.

you are though - if "poor" is defined as not having enough dosh to qualify for a reproduction license - and that would be as good a definition as any. You would give out licenses on the basis of how poor somebody is.

wouldn't you?

[CAPSLOCK]

I think he's been quite clear the criteria isn't rich or poor

Its (and this is only 1 test) whether you can bring up your kids with no financial support from the state

If you show you can do this despite being poor, we'll move onto number 2

[Worthy4England]

I think he's been quite clear the criteria isn't rich or poor

Its (and this is only 1 test) whether you can bring up your kids with no financial support from the state

If you show you can do this despite being poor, we'll move onto number 2

Fair summation Caps.

With my leftie leanings, I could possibly be persuaded to help the odd basket case, here and there, that just happened to fall on bad times.

Serial basket cases - well it's the glorious 12th. PULL!

[thebish]

I think he's been quite clear the criteria isn't rich or poor

Its (and this is only 1 test) whether you can bring up your kids with no financial support from the state

If you show you can do this despite being poor, we'll move onto number 2

Fair summation Caps.

With my leftie leanings, I could possibly be persuaded to help the odd basket case, here and there, that just happened to fall on bad times.

Serial basket cases - well it's the glorious 12th. PULL!

mere sophistry...

if you cannot afford to bring up a child - you are poor.

at today's prices - how much cash would you have to demonstrate to earn a license?

[Bruce Rioja]

at today's prices - how much cash would you have to demonstrate to earn a license?

I've a better way. Ask the prospective parents what they'll name their offspring. If the answer comes back something along the lines of "If it's a girl, Nicotinella, or if it's a boy, either Painton or Diadora" PULL!

[thebish]

at today's prices - how much cash would you have to demonstrate to earn a license?

I've a better way. Ask the prospective parents what they'll name their offspring. If the answer comes back something along the lines of "If it's a girl, Nicotinella, or if it's a boy, either Painton or Diadora" PULL!

but you'd allow Tarquin and Jocasta?

(A registrar I know says it is only a matter of time before a little girl is named Chlamidia..... )

[Bruce Rioja]

at today's prices - how much cash would you have to demonstrate to earn a license?

I've a better way. Ask the prospective parents what they'll name their offspring. If the answer comes back something along the lines of "If it's a girl, Nicotinella, or if it's a boy, either Painton or Diadora" PULL!

but you'd allow Tarquin and Jocasta?

(A registrar I know says it is only a matter of time before a little girl is named Chlamidia..... )

Of course.

Actually, given your line of duty there must've been one or two that you've struggled to keep a straight face with. Please tell.

[Worthy4England]

I think he's been quite clear the criteria isn't rich or poor

Its (and this is only 1 test) whether you can bring up your kids with no financial support from the state

If you show you can do this despite being poor, we'll move onto number 2

Fair summation Caps.

With my leftie leanings, I could possibly be persuaded to help the odd basket case, here and there, that just happened to fall on bad times.

Serial basket cases - well it's the glorious 12th. PULL!

mere sophistry...

if you cannot afford to bring up a child - you are poor.

at today's prices - how much cash would you have to demonstrate to earn a license?

If you actually read what I put you'd have spotted that it wasn't sophistry at all.

I didn't say you had to earn X or Y. I just said that you had to show a track record of working. I didn't say that you had to prove you could bring kids up with no financial support from the State. I did say people shouldn't expect that they can just produce offspring and expect that the State will pay the bill.I have no problem with some of my taxes helping folk along, as long as they're helping themselves.

The estimates for the cost of raising kids vary, but this report suggests £200k - and we just allow people to randomly put this bill onto the State, sometimes 4 or 5 times, occasionally more times.

Here's a blank cheque that you can bill to the state at £200k per go with no form of penalty. How dumbass is that as a notion?

[thebish]

I think he's been quite clear the criteria isn't rich or poor

Its (and this is only 1 test) whether you can bring up your kids with no financial support from the state

If you show you can do this despite being poor, we'll move onto number 2

Fair summation Caps.

With my leftie leanings, I could possibly be persuaded to help the odd basket case, here and there, that just happened to fall on bad times.

Serial basket cases - well it's the glorious 12th. PULL!

mere sophistry...

if you cannot afford to bring up a child - you are poor.

at today's prices - how much cash would you have to demonstrate to earn a license?

If you actually read what I put you'd have spotted that it wasn't sophistry at all.

I didn't say you had to earn X or Y. I just said that you had to show a track record of working. I didn't say that you had to prove you could bring kids up with no financial support from the State. I did say people shouldn't expect that they can just produce offspring and expect that the State will pay the bill.I have no problem with some of my taxes helping folk along, as long as they're helping themselves.

I have never suggested that you have any problem with helping others with the taxes you pay. I simply think that a society that forces abortion on pregnant teenage girls is not one I'd prefer to the current one - despite all of its irritations and problems.

[Worthy4England]

I could possibly be pursuaded that people could make one mistake. I'm a long way from convinced that three or four times is a mistake.

[thebish]

I could possibly be pursuaded that people could make one mistake. I'm a long way from convinced that three or four times is a mistake.

I think I'll leave it there then - my liberal reforming work is done!

[Worthy4England]

I could possibly be pursuaded that people could make one mistake. I'm a long way from convinced that three or four times is a mistake.

I think I'll leave it there then - my liberal reforming work is done!

Good, so we can catrate and abort on go number two then? I'll settle for that as a draw.

[thebish]

I could possibly be pursuaded that people could make one mistake. I'm a long way from convinced that three or four times is a mistake.

I think I'll leave it there then - my liberal reforming work is done!

Good, so we can catrate and abort on go number two then? I'll settle for that as a draw.

I think you might have to wait a while for your dream society to become a reality - Cameron fought shy of scrapping free milk, I suspect he'd curdle at your proposals....

[Worthy4England]

I'll just wait until Hoboh becomes Supreme Being.

[Gravedigger]

I'll just wait until Hoboh becomes Supreme Being.

Oh, feck! I thought he had!

[thebish]

I think he's been quite clear the criteria isn't rich or poor

Its (and this is only 1 test) whether you can bring up your kids with no financial support from the state

If you show you can do this despite being poor, we'll move onto number 2

how far down your list of criteria is "pure-blooded arian"?

[InsaneApache]

What's an arian?