dog owners

[Gravedigger]

was thinking medium sort of sized, bigger than a yorkshire terrier - smaller than a german shep?

really like rhodesian ridgeback's the best!

http://www.pets4homes.co.uk/pets4homes/ ... 6B00480B66

They are as big as a German Shep!

And are a working dog too. Need terrific amounts of exercise or you will end up with problems, restlessness, impatience and huge food bill.

[Harry Genshaw]

First time the wife & I dropped our dog off at Rivington kennels we drove away in floods of tears. It was only about 2 hours into the holiday that one of us said "Wonder what he's doing now?". Our experience was the same as everybody elses on here - he came back smelly and tired but drags us up the steps whenever it's time to go back.

Just as an aside - If kennels dont do it for you try the guide dogs association. They have umpteen staff members in the North West who look after dogs in their own homes. We've dropped our chap off in houses in Smithills, Horwich & Blackrod before now, and he's always very well looked after.

[TANGODANCER]

Just for the record, any worries about putting your pets in kennels proved (as some on here said) completely groundless. Dog was fine, settled in after a couple of quiet days, ate well and came back full of beans. The kennel owner even gave him a bath before releasing him and said he'd been a treat to have and enjoyed his walks. The kennels were at Belmont and, judging by his good spirits I'd have no qualms in putting him there again if needed. All's well that ends well. Worries, as usual, were all on our part and not the dog's. Sorted.

[William the White]

Went for a walk round Entwistle reservoir today, first time for a good while, to find a lot of 'warning notices - asking owners to keep their dogs under control or on leads as there have been a number of attacks on people by 'dangerous dogs' recently and warning of the possibility of prosecution...

I won't ever understand the desire to own a dog but, once more, owners prove themselves incapable of meeting their obligations.

Bring back dog licences and only issue them to people who have followed a dog ownership training course. Which must include trainng on picking up dog crap!!!

Also designate certain public spaces entirely dog free so that ordinary walkers can walk in safety and free from canine shite...

[Bruce Rioja]

Bring back dog licences and only issue them to people who have followed a dog ownership training course. Which must include trainng on picking up dog crap!!!

Also designate certain public spaces entirely dog free so that ordinary walkers can walk in safety and free from canine shite...

I absolutely agree, 100%.

[seanworth]

Bring back dog licences and only issue them to people who have followed a dog ownership training course. Which must include trainng on picking up dog crap!!!

Also designate certain public spaces entirely dog free so that ordinary walkers can walk in safety and free from canine shite...

I absolutely agree, 100%.

Christ talking about getting a little dracaninian.

[thebish]

Bring back dog licences and only issue them to people who have followed a dog ownership training course. Which must include trainng on picking up dog crap!!!

Also designate certain public spaces entirely dog free so that ordinary walkers can walk in safety and free from canine shite...

I absolutely agree, 100%.

no argument from me on the sentiment - except I don't remember the streets being dogcrapless when there were dog ownership licences... granted there wasn't a poo-pickingup qualification back then - but, sentiment aside, I suspect it is a pipe dream to imagine such a move would really make as much difference as you imagine... (partly also because in the real world of policing priorities - enforcement wouldn't happen.)

[thebish]

Bring back dog licences and only issue them to people who have followed a dog ownership training course. Which must include trainng on picking up dog crap!!!

Also designate certain public spaces entirely dog free so that ordinary walkers can walk in safety and free from canine shite...

I absolutely agree, 100%.

Christ talking about getting a little dracaninian.

is that like a poodle - or a pekinese? sounds cute anyway!

[thebish]

Also designate certain public spaces entirely dog free so that ordinary walkers can walk in safety and free from canine shite...

I think there are plenty of beaches that are designated dog free nowadays aren't there - which is a step in the right direction...

you remind me of Thomas Beecham who when asked if he had heard any Stockhausen allegedly replied, "I think not, but I may have stepped in some."

[Bruce Rioja]

Christ talking about getting a little dracaninian.

Monteeeeeeeeey!

[TANGODANCER]

As a dog owner who does pick up the shxt (unpleasant but gets rid of the problem that affect us just the same as non-owners) I was particularly pxxxxd off at the attitude of the tennants, mainly Spanish, on the complex my brother lives on, to find that a lot of them take their dogs onto a picturesque gravelled park area in the evenings for the sole purpose of letting them shxt there then walk away and leave it for others to step in. They do it quite blatantly and don't give one even though they have to walk the same areas.

[thebish]

As a dog owner who does pick up the shxt (unpleasant but gets rid of the problem that affect us just the same as non-owners) I was particularly pxxxxd off at the attitude of the tennants, mainly Spanish, on the complex my brother lives on, to find that a lot of them take their dogs onto a picturesque gravelled park area in the evenings for the sole purpose of letting them shxt there then walk away and leave it for others to step in. They do it quite blatantly and don't give one even though they have to walk the same areas.

and then they throw a donkey on top of it... bastards!

[TANGODANCER]

As a dog owner who does pick up the shxt (unpleasant but gets rid of the problem that affect us just the same as non-owners) I was particularly pxxxxd off at the attitude of the tennants, mainly Spanish, on the complex my brother lives on, to find that a lot of them take their dogs onto a picturesque gravelled park area in the evenings for the sole purpose of letting them shxt there then walk away and leave it for others to step in. They do it quite blatantly and don't give one even though they have to walk the same areas.

and then they throw a donkey on top of it... bastards!

Never heard the donkey story, but I know certain villages used to throw a goat from church bell towers once a year.

[Bruce Rioja]

Never heard the donkey story, but I know certain villages used to throw a goat from church bell towers once a year.

And we get told that we need to be more European? Nothing delighted me more than seeing that bull get up into the stands a couple of weeks back.

[Prufrock]

Never heard the donkey story, but I know certain villages used to throw a goat from church bell towers once a year.

And we get told that we need to be more European? Nothing delighted me more than seeing that bull get up into the stands a couple of weeks back.

Apart from the fact they shot it afterwards.

[thebish]

As a dog owner who does pick up the shxt (unpleasant but gets rid of the problem that affect us just the same as non-owners) I was particularly pxxxxd off at the attitude of the tennants, mainly Spanish, on the complex my brother lives on, to find that a lot of them take their dogs onto a picturesque gravelled park area in the evenings for the sole purpose of letting them shxt there then walk away and leave it for others to step in. They do it quite blatantly and don't give one even though they have to walk the same areas.

and then they throw a donkey on top of it... bastards!

Never heard the donkey story, but I know certain villages used to throw a goat from church bell towers once a year.

sometimes a goat - sometimes a donkey... (goats more common - but both have been reported)

also - the spanish blood fiestas - which can use chickens, pigs, donkeys, goats, ducks, pigeons, squirrels or geese

many of the cow/calves/bulls used are simply surplus to the bull-fighting industry: no use for breeding, slightly deformed or impaired, (i.e. blind in one eye, lame, badly shaped horns), too young, too old, or in the cases of many of the bulls, too big, too brave, or too unpredictable for the matador.

a cow, calf or bull condemned to a blood fiesta can die from stabbing, strangulation, spearing, and multiple injuries. It can be thrown down from a height, deliberately and repeatedly knocked down by a car or tractor, or drowned.

Before it dies it can suffer rape by sticks or metal spikes, live castration, have its horns, tails and ears ripped off, be blinded or burned.

It's torture can last to up to five hours. sometimes a goat or a donkey is used if no bull/calf is available....

as for other animals..

Chickens are hung by their feet from a rope, and decapitated by either a sword, often blunted to make it more 'fun', or have their heads wrenched off manually.

Another variation on this is to bury the birds in a box or in the earth with just their heads sticking up, then they are beaten to death or their heads hacked off with swords.

Ducks have their wings clipped and are thrown into a river or the sea and dozens of swimmers try to catch them. The birds can be pulled apart in the tug of war.

Geese are strung up by their feet and have their heads wrenched off manually.

Pigeons and squirrels are imprisoned in tiny pots suspended from a very high pole, the pots are stoned until they break and the birds and animals fall out alive or dead.

Pigs are greased and set loose to be caught by crowds of men, the animal is nearly always badly injured in the struggle and sometimes they are pulled and crushed so badly they literally burst.

donkeys are also routinely abused at the "Pero Palo" Fiesta in Villanueva de la Vera


In England we had bull running and baiting exactly as in Spain for over 1,000 years until it was banned by Parliament in 1835. Most countries of Europe had similar festivals, the chickens killings were common in England, Italy, Belgium and Germany. In Eastern Europe, pig and chicken killing festivals still exist. The tragedy is that most countries have banned such cruelty, Spain has revived it.

[Bruce Rioja]

Never heard the donkey story, but I know certain villages used to throw a goat from church bell towers once a year.

And we get told that we need to be more European? Nothing delighted me more than seeing that bull get up into the stands a couple of weeks back.

Apart from the fact they shot it afterwards.

Did they? That was big of 'em. Why didn't they get the Matador out to sort it out?

[William the White]

It is worth noting that cruelty to animals in 'sport' or 'culture' does not go uncontested in Spain. Including the corrida, which certainly has the strongest and most authentic historical 'cultural' claim. And is now banned in Catalonia.

I also note the much-lamented A. Blair regrets allowing a free vote on hunting with dogs, and there are plenty in Britain wishing to see the return of this great 'cultural' pursuit of the uneatable by the unspeakable.

[thebish]

and there are plenty in Britain wishing to see the return of this great 'cultural' pursuit of the uneatable by the unspeakable.

including the current PM... it'd be interesting to see how the seams of the Con/dem coalition might creak if he tried to bring it back...

[Bruce Rioja]

and there are plenty in Britain wishing to see the return of this great 'cultural' pursuit of the uneatable by the unspeakable.

including the current PM... it'd be interesting to see how the seams of the Con/dem coalition might creak if he tried to bring it back...

As one raised on a farm, and as a guy that's seen first-hand just exactly what a fox is capable of, I'll still never, ever support the barbaric pusuit of hunting foxes with dogs. Somehow, the control of foxes and fox-hunting has become confused. At our place, when foxes started becoming a problem they would be shot perfectly between the eyes as they came to collect the dead hens that were left for them. I know that it's awful, but that's control. It's not sport and nor is it fun. Horsebacked wankers with dogs that claim to be helping the issue are so deluded that it defies belief.

My politics have absolutely nothing to do with this. In exactly what way is this a political issue?