Today I'm angry about.....

[thebish]

Today I am mostly angry about the meeja reporting of science.

Today many media portals have run the story that scientists have proved that the condition known as ADHT is caused by a genetic defect and therefore is nothing to do with environmental factors or parenting.

they have not - not even close.

Only one or two have come slightly closer to the truth - BUT - most of them have come nowhere near.

[Bruce Rioja]

Today I am mostly angry about the meeja reporting of science.

Today many media portals have run the story that scientists have proved that the condition known as ADHT is caused by a genetic defect and therefore is nothing to do with environmental factors or parenting.

they have not - not even close.

Only one or two have come slightly closer to the truth - BUT - most of them have come nowhere near.

What'll really annoy me, Bish, is when some shitbag's solicitor offers it up as a reasonable excuse for their client's anti-social behaviour.

[Lord Kangana]

After seeing this afternoons news that the Irish Taxpayers will have to bail out the banks yet again, I am angry that "The money markets" have responded positively.

Why would I be angry at a positive outcome?

Well imagine if the Irish Taxpayers had just kept their hands in their pockets, and said "Its your mess, you sort it"? The "Money markets" would have gone chicken oriental on Ireland and f*cked it back to the stone age. So we're all expected to pay twice (thrice for the poor Irish) to keep afloat a self-evidently decrepit system, at the behest of people none of us ever voted for. Thats the democracy of Neoliberalism for you.

Free Market Capitalism died in 2008, I can't believe we are still being asked to believe in this charade.

[BWFC_Insane]

Today I am mostly angry about the meeja reporting of science.

Today many media portals have run the story that scientists have proved that the condition known as ADHT is caused by a genetic defect and therefore is nothing to do with environmental factors or parenting.

they have not - not even close.

Only one or two have come slightly closer to the truth - BUT - most of them have come nowhere near.

To be fair bish for once the scientists themselves are making bold claims and using bold headlines that their research does not actually back-up.

Not sure in this case its entirely the media's fault! Though some of it is as always!

[General Mannerheim]

i also wear flip flops witg my shorts

[thebish]

Today I am mostly angry about the meeja reporting of science.

Today many media portals have run the story that scientists have proved that the condition known as ADHT is caused by a genetic defect and therefore is nothing to do with environmental factors or parenting.

they have not - not even close.

Only one or two have come slightly closer to the truth - BUT - most of them have come nowhere near.

To be fair bish for once the scientists themselves are making bold claims and using bold headlines that their research does not actually back-up.

Not sure in this case its entirely the media's fault! Though some of it is as always!

the scientisticians have claimed (I think) that about 10-15% of kids diagnosed with ADHD have this gene-pattern - 7% of the non-ADHD population have it too... this study has not been replicated.


what is being REPORTED is that ADHD is genetic.

what I (and many others) fear is that it will lead to calls to stop funding research into environmental factors that show a HUGELY bigger correlation than anything genetic ever has - such as, stress on the mother during the third trimester...

[BWFC_Insane]

Today I am mostly angry about the meeja reporting of science.

Today many media portals have run the story that scientists have proved that the condition known as ADHT is caused by a genetic defect and therefore is nothing to do with environmental factors or parenting.

they have not - not even close.

Only one or two have come slightly closer to the truth - BUT - most of them have come nowhere near.

To be fair bish for once the scientists themselves are making bold claims and using bold headlines that their research does not actually back-up.

Not sure in this case its entirely the media's fault! Though some of it is as always!

the scientisticians have claimed (I think) that about 10-15% of kids diagnosed with ADHD have this gene-pattern - 7% of the non-ADHD population have it too... this study has not been replicated.


what is being REPORTED is that ADHD is genetic.

what I (and many others) fear is that it will lead to calls to stop funding research into environmental factors that show a HUGELY bigger correlation than anything genetic ever has - such as, stress on the mother during the third trimester...

Thats true Bish. But here in some "expert comment" from the BBC page...

There is a danger of reading too much into new research in the Lancet on attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

The headline of the Lancet press release says: "Study is the first to find direct evidence that ADHD is a genetic disorder". One of the authors, Professor Anita Thapar is quoted as saying: "Now we can say with confidence that ADHD is a genetic disease and that the brains of children with this condition develop differently to those of other children".

That's that then. Or perhaps not. Because those bold claims do not seem to be borne out by the actual research paper

.

Not necessarily all the media's fault as they are pointing out some of the scientists claims are not really as they seem.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Why will people only buy a Euro Million ticket when the jackpot reaches over 50m? Like they wouldnt be happy with a piffling 10m !

Same deal with the normal lottery, 12 million rollover? yes! Crappy 4 million jackpot? naaaa, can't be arsed this week, not worth popping down t'shops for...

[thebish]

to date, I have never bought a national or euro lottery ticket - am I alone?

I remember when the lottery was quite new being in a pub in Newcastle - and the barmaid came to the table and asked if we wanted the lottery numbers - just in case. we said - no thanks - we haven't done it - she laughed and gave us the numbers as if the idea of NOT doing it was preposterous and we must have been winding her up....

[Bruce Rioja]

Why will people only buy a Euro Million ticket when the jackpot reaches over 50m? Like they wouldnt be happy with a piffling 10m !

Same deal with the normal lottery, 12 million rollover? yes! Crappy 4 million jackpot? naaaa, can't be arsed this week, not worth popping down t'shops for...

Ah, I asked a similar question at work some time ago when someone came round with a whip for the Euro Millions one which offered a jackpot of something like €128m. The reply I got was that if someone didn't win the jackpot then it'd reached a point where it'd get broken down into the smaller prizes.

Can't help with the second part though.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Still, i'd like the chance to prove that being rich would not change me...!

[Worthy4England]

i also wear flip flops witg my shorts

Now you're just doing this to wind me up.

No one could be that crass unless they were on Little Britain.

[Bruce Rioja]

i also wear flip flops witg my shorts

Now you're just doing this to wind me up.

No one could be that crass unless they were on Little Britain.

Can we have a amnesty? I have a pair of leather flip-flops that I've attempted to wear........ once.

They absolutely wreck between your big toe and the one next door.

[Worthy4England]

i also wear flip flops witg my shorts

Now you're just doing this to wind me up.

No one could be that crass unless they were on Little Britain.

Can we have a amnesty? I have a pair of leather flip-flops that I've attempted to wear........ once.

They absolutely wreck between your big toe and the one next door.

Lol I have nothing against the wearing of shorts, or flip-flops, particularly when it's sunny. I draw the line at "crocs".

When it's pissing down with rain and said person is wearing shorts and flip flops and something akin to a waterproof top (or some winter wooly type jumper) - and from the one's I've seen round our way, they're like 35+, they just look fcuking stupid.

Happy to have an amnesty - I'll just continue to giggle inwardly.

[TANGODANCER]

Wife's been trying to persuade me for years to wear sandals on holiday. Neve gave in till this year because my "Ain't half hot mum" plimsolls are fine. Gots some of these finally (although not as posh, just canvas) I'm converted. Only abroad, of course. ( And not with socks Monty)

[a1]

Why will people only buy a Euro Million ticket when the jackpot reaches over 50m? Like they wouldnt be happy with a piffling 10m !

Same deal with the normal lottery, 12 million rollover? yes! Crappy 4 million jackpot? naaaa, can't be arsed this week, not worth popping down t'shops for...

the midweek lottery ballzed that up, 7-8mil every week before that hapened.

folk had to split their money or knocked it down or pay extra, the novelty were wearing off anyway ... the lottery peeps are probably making more but the "holy christ 10million !!!" has gone , folk only get worked up for bizananas numbers now.

the "marketing men" spoilt it.

the eurolott on a normal week is somethin' like 10 mill , the normal lottry has to roll over about three/four times to hit that.

even though its five or seven times harder to win the EL.

[Bruce Rioja]

folk only get worked up for bizananas numbers now.

Righty - oh, I shall bear that in mind.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Cue coffee spewed all over pc monitor...!

[a1]

Righty - oh, I shall bear that in mind.

[jimbo]

Today I am mostly angry about the meeja reporting of science.

Today many media portals have run the story that scientists have proved that the condition known as ADHT is caused by a genetic defect and therefore is nothing to do with environmental factors or parenting.

they have not - not even close.

Only one or two have come slightly closer to the truth - BUT - most of them have come nowhere near.

To be fair bish for once the scientists themselves are making bold claims and using bold headlines that their research does not actually back-up.

Not sure in this case its entirely the media's fault! Though some of it is as always!

the scientisticians have claimed (I think) that about 10-15% of kids diagnosed with ADHD have this gene-pattern - 7% of the non-ADHD population have it too... this study has not been replicated.


what is being REPORTED is that ADHD is genetic.

what I (and many others) fear is that it will lead to calls to stop funding research into environmental factors that show a HUGELY bigger correlation than anything genetic ever has - such as, stress on the mother during the third trimester...

Thats true Bish. But here in some "expert comment" from the BBC page...

There is a danger of reading too much into new research in the Lancet on attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

The headline of the Lancet press release says: "Study is the first to find direct evidence that ADHD is a genetic disorder". One of the authors, Professor Anita Thapar is quoted as saying: "Now we can say with confidence that ADHD is a genetic disease and that the brains of children with this condition develop differently to those of other children".

That's that then. Or perhaps not. Because those bold claims do not seem to be borne out by the actual research paper

.

Not necessarily all the media's fault as they are pointing out some of the scientists claims are not really as they seem.

This is one of the arguments for why scientific research shouldn't be made public. Researchers are basically businessmen. If they produce a study that doesn't show very much and gets hidden away in the back of a second rate journal, it won't do their profile much good. However, dress up said mediocre study and leak selective and cleverly worded pieces to the press and they love it. Hence we have headlines along the lines of MIRACLE CURE! or the one mentioned above. Getting in the papers gives the doctors more exposure, and probably more money and funding for future projects and proposals. They aren't lying. In this case they have proved that there is a genetic aspect to the disorder as is said. They have then left it to the press to embelish the rest and label it a 'genetic disease'.