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Post by seanworth » Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:52 am

Was hoping for a win but a draw away is not the end of the world. Even though we have only lost 1 game this season I really want another win and hopefully quite soon. Missed the match as I had to take care of a birthday party. Kept on trying to get a glimpse of the two games going on the TV's but never coincided with other scores being on the screen. By the time I was able to check the scores I had gotten so apprehensive I was relieved with the draw.

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Re: bolton/baggies match thread

Post by TKIZ! » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:22 am

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thebish wrote: Peter Walton will officiate Saturday's clash. The Northampton-born referee has so far dished out 11 yellow and two red cards in just three games so far this season.

11 Bolton players on the pitch at the end??? hmmmm...
Peter Walton lives round the corner from me. He attends Northamptonshire Referees' Association meetings nearly every month. I'm a member too.

He's a really sound guy as it happens.
Blimey Zulu, you a Cobbler? Went to Uni in that neck of the woods.

We've just been unlucky that we can catch a break defensively. I don't know what's been up with Moobs, his head don't seem in the game.
Long Buckby, me duck! :D
Cool, Went to Uni in Northampton, Long Buckby was the stop before if I remember rightly? Was about 10 years ago now
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Post by thebish » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:31 am

Horza wrote:Don't know what people are upset about

I don't really know what people you are talking about...

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Re: bolton/baggies match thread

Post by thebish » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:32 am

TKIZ! wrote:
Zulus Thousand of em wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:
Zulus Thousand of em wrote:
thebish wrote: Peter Walton will officiate Saturday's clash. The Northampton-born referee has so far dished out 11 yellow and two red cards in just three games so far this season.

11 Bolton players on the pitch at the end??? hmmmm...
Peter Walton lives round the corner from me. He attends Northamptonshire Referees' Association meetings nearly every month. I'm a member too.

He's a really sound guy as it happens.
Blimey Zulu, you a Cobbler? Went to Uni in that neck of the woods.

We've just been unlucky that we can catch a break defensively. I don't know what's been up with Moobs, his head don't seem in the game.
Long Buckby, me duck! :D
Cool, Went to Uni in Northampton, Long Buckby was the stop before if I remember rightly? Was about 10 years ago now

I lived in Yardley Hastings for a while... loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago though!

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Post by TKIZ! » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:45 am

thebish wrote:
Horza wrote:Don't know what people are upset about

I don't really know what people you are talking about...
Me either, I'm not upset just a bit gutted we couldn't close out the game
Pfffft.

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Post by Horza » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:01 pm

TKIZ! wrote:
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Horza wrote:Don't know what people are upset about

I don't really know what people you are talking about...
Me either, I'm not upset just a bit gutted we couldn't close out the game
I was taking the piss. :?
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Post by Peter Thompson » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:52 pm

Their goal was Jussi's fault no one else's - routine ball into the box, you should expect your goalkeeper to come and collect crosses on the edge of your 6 yard box.

Major fault in Jussi as a keeper, he is a great shot stopper but he doesn't command his box and take as many crosses as a top keeper should.

Petrov's miss was bad but his shot earlier that the keeper turned over was excellent, and his goal and performance last week against Utd was very good and he will improve....and anyone who actually thinks Taylor is better than Petrov and should play ahead of him really must know very little about football, although they are entitled to their opinion.

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Post by thebish » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:54 pm

Horza wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:
thebish wrote:
Horza wrote:Don't know what people are upset about

I don't really know what people you are talking about...
Me either, I'm not upset just a bit gutted we couldn't close out the game
I was taking the piss. :?
out of who??

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Post by TKIZ! » Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:03 pm

Who me?
Pfffft.

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Post by officer_dibble » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:44 pm

Just watched the highlights and its two points dropped as far as I can see.

Petrov should of made it 2-0.

We should have defended better. We're still slack at letting crosses come into our box. Should be stopped at source.

Another game, another draw. What is the highest number of games we've drawn in one season?

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Re: bolton/baggies match thread

Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:45 pm

thebish wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:
Zulus Thousand of em wrote:
TKIZ! wrote:
Zulus Thousand of em wrote: Peter Walton lives round the corner from me. He attends Northamptonshire Referees' Association meetings nearly every month. I'm a member too.

He's a really sound guy as it happens.
Blimey Zulu, you a Cobbler? Went to Uni in that neck of the woods.

We've just been unlucky that we can catch a break defensively. I don't know what's been up with Moobs, his head don't seem in the game.
Long Buckby, me duck! :D
Cool, Went to Uni in Northampton, Long Buckby was the stop before if I remember rightly? Was about 10 years ago now

I lived in Yardley Hastings for a while... loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago though!
Yep, one stop up the line from Northampton, just before Rugby.

I reffed a game at Yardley Hastings last season. Nice place. (Peter Walton attends the same association meetings as me - but he gets better gigs! :D )
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:53 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:Their goal was Jussi's fault no one else's - routine ball into the box, you should expect your goalkeeper to come and collect crosses on the edge of your 6 yard box.

Major fault in Jussi as a keeper, he is a great shot stopper but he doesn't command his box and take as many crosses as a top keeper should.
Absolutely 100% agree re-Yellow Belly Finn and his reluctance to step off his line, though on their goal I thought that Taylor was equally culpable for allowing Morrison to get goal side.
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Post by Athers » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:09 pm

Cross was from the corner of our box not near the corner flag remember, makes it more difficult for the keeper to charge out and claim I think, not saying he shouldn't have though. Not clean cut I'd say, say the cross dips lower and any sort of nick on it goes in - then the keeper gets blamed for being in no-man's land etc.
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Post by TKIZ! » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:49 pm

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I thought he meant you?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:13 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:Their goal was Jussi's fault no one else's - routine ball into the box, you should expect your goalkeeper to come and collect crosses on the edge of your 6 yard box.

Major fault in Jussi as a keeper, he is a great shot stopper but he doesn't command his box and take as many crosses as a top keeper should.

Petrov's miss was bad but his shot earlier that the keeper turned over was excellent, and his goal and performance last week against Utd was very good and he will improve....and anyone who actually thinks Taylor is better than Petrov and should play ahead of him really must know very little about football, although they are entitled to their opinion.
Were you there yesterday? Petrov was hopeless. Well and truly. Offered Robinson no cover, gave the ball away (he surrendered possession for their goal IIRC) and was generall disinterested and basically offered nothing.

Taylor did more in the few minutes he was on the pitch, as he actually offered some movement. Some blame Taylor for the goal and perhaps he got the wrong side, but can anyone truly say Petrov would have bothered to follow his player into the box? Fook me. No he wouldn't. We carried him yesterday and you can only carry players like that if they look like producing a moment that wins you the game and Petrov doesn't. He may be a better option at home but away I think I'd start with Taylor and use Petrov late on for his pace.

As for Jussi, I agree he doesn't come out for crosses but I don't think he could have come for that. End of the day we were caught once we allowed to ball to come in from out wide. Odemwingie was offside but we were still caught on the break by a counterattack when we're winning 1-0. Thats what we should be looking at. Why the fook we had so many committed forwards. Not why our keeper didn't come out for a very good cross that would have been 50-50 at best!

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Post by Mar » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:19 pm

Think I can agree with most of that Insane but i'm less inclined to agree with you regarding Petrov. I don't know whether his lack of tracking back is due to his laziness or whether its due to the tactics that Owen Coyle's been playing. After all Robinson has been our stand out left back and isnt encouraged to get forward that often (unlike Steinsson) so he's less likely to be caught out and need as much support. Its swings and roundabouts but i'd imagine Taylor's task yesterday was slightly different than that of Petrov.

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Post by thebish » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:19 pm

TKIZ! wrote:
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I thought he meant you?
no - either you or LK for my money...

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:32 pm

Mar wrote:Think I can agree with most of that Insane but i'm less inclined to agree with you regarding Petrov. I don't know whether his lack of tracking back is due to his laziness or whether its due to the tactics that Owen Coyle's been playing. After all Robinson has been our stand out left back and isnt encouraged to get forward that often (unlike Steinsson) so he's less likely to be caught out and need as much support. Its swings and roundabouts but i'd imagine Taylor's task yesterday was slightly different than that of Petrov.
Nobody expects Petrov to sit on Robinson all the time and protect him. And perhaps "lazy" is the wrong word. But when you're away you need players who help out at times if you're playing 4-4-2. End of the day if the plan is for Petrov to stay more advanced and let Robinson deal with things then he'll have to stop giving the ball away all the time as he did against West Brom, also perhaps stop players just running past him with the ball. I'm not on his back, he's clearly a decent player but to suggest that he was anything less than awful yesterday would be wrong.

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