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The main culprit was Taylor, for me. It's his man who he has tracked but not hard enough. The argument Lee Wouldn't have got there doesn't wash for me as part of the reason Taylor was brought on seemed to be for more defensive strength, and fresh legs, neither of which happened. Others were at fault as well, and it doesn't make him sh*t, or mean we should sell him, in fact going froward I thought he looked very sharp, but from what I have seen of the goal he takes a large part of the blame. Cahill wasn't marking anyone, but again he would be thinking he can't go leaving a big hole at the front post. If he'd checked though he would have seen there was no other danger. Steinsson cannot be completely excused either, yes he had a man, but once it became obvious Taylor wasn't staying with Morrison, you accept the stood up chipped cross to a static man at the back post over the whipped in at pace ball to a man with momentum right in front of goal.Worthy4England wrote:Yes, along with plenty of others in the team, including but not limited to, Robinson, Cahill, Knight, Jussi, Steinnson, our central midfielders were where? So lets add Muamba and Holden into the mix too.boltonboris wrote:I did at first, before I got to see the goal again. He was at fault, rather than the faultWorthy4England wrote:So I think we've probably talked ourselves around to it being a poor team goal to let in.
Rather than it was "Taylor's fault".
Which I think is what many people were saying in the first place.
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Knight was "out there" whether he should or shouldn't isn't the point. When the ball was knocked long Knight was marking Odemwingie and Robbo was marking Barnes.boltonboris wrote:So... When Odemwingie peels of to the flank (which he did. Often.) you think a central defender should be dragged out of position to go and fetch him?BWFC_Insane wrote:Only real point I'm making is strictly speaking Odemwingie was Knights man, although Knight was struggling to get near him most of the game.ohjimmyjimmy wrote:There's a lot of 'shouldve-beens' in that summary, but all fair enough.
Lets face it Knight was neither blocking the cross nor in the box ready to deal with it.
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Having just watched it again, from when Steinsson could've possibly judged that Taylor wasn't getting there, he'd have had to break land-speed records to get over and infront of Morrison.Prufrock wrote:The main culprit was Taylor, for me. It's his man who he has tracked but not hard enough. The argument Lee Wouldn't have got there doesn't wash for me as part of the reason Taylor was brought on seemed to be for more defensive strength, and fresh legs, neither of which happened. Others were at fault as well, and it doesn't make him sh*t, or mean we should sell him, in fact going froward I thought he looked very sharp, but from what I have seen of the goal he takes a large part of the blame. Cahill wasn't marking anyone, but again he would be thinking he can't go leaving a big hole at the front post. If he'd checked though he would have seen there was no other danger. Steinsson cannot be completely excused either, yes he had a man, but once it became obvious Taylor wasn't staying with Morrison, you accept the stood up chipped cross to a static man at the back post over the whipped in at pace ball to a man with momentum right in front of goal.Worthy4England wrote:Yes, along with plenty of others in the team, including but not limited to, Robinson, Cahill, Knight, Jussi, Steinnson, our central midfielders were where? So lets add Muamba and Holden into the mix too.boltonboris wrote:I did at first, before I got to see the goal again. He was at fault, rather than the faultWorthy4England wrote:So I think we've probably talked ourselves around to it being a poor team goal to let in.
Rather than it was "Taylor's fault".
Which I think is what many people were saying in the first place.
Of all the players that we're dishing out blame too, Steinsson is one of the only ones I wouldn't point the finger at. He was in the box and he was marking Brunt.
I could have told you Taylor wasn't getting there from about the halfway line. I like Taylor, but conviction filled defending isn't his forte.Tombwfc wrote:Having just watched it again, from when Steinsson could've possibly judged that Taylor wasn't getting there, he'd have had to break land-speed records to get over and infront of Morrison.Prufrock wrote:The main culprit was Taylor, for me. It's his man who he has tracked but not hard enough. The argument Lee Wouldn't have got there doesn't wash for me as part of the reason Taylor was brought on seemed to be for more defensive strength, and fresh legs, neither of which happened. Others were at fault as well, and it doesn't make him sh*t, or mean we should sell him, in fact going froward I thought he looked very sharp, but from what I have seen of the goal he takes a large part of the blame. Cahill wasn't marking anyone, but again he would be thinking he can't go leaving a big hole at the front post. If he'd checked though he would have seen there was no other danger. Steinsson cannot be completely excused either, yes he had a man, but once it became obvious Taylor wasn't staying with Morrison, you accept the stood up chipped cross to a static man at the back post over the whipped in at pace ball to a man with momentum right in front of goal.Worthy4England wrote:Yes, along with plenty of others in the team, including but not limited to, Robinson, Cahill, Knight, Jussi, Steinnson, our central midfielders were where? So lets add Muamba and Holden into the mix too.boltonboris wrote:I did at first, before I got to see the goal again. He was at fault, rather than the faultWorthy4England wrote:So I think we've probably talked ourselves around to it being a poor team goal to let in.
Rather than it was "Taylor's fault".
Which I think is what many people were saying in the first place.
Of all the players that we're dishing out blame too, Steinsson is one of the only ones I wouldn't point the finger at. He was in the box and he was marking Brunt.
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