Today I'm angry about.....

[thebish]

Monty, I'm not sure there is much wrong with "It's gone in." It has gone in - same tense as "grandma has gone to the shops".

The real menace - tense-wise - with footballers is "It's went in." arghhhhhh!!

But it's the present perfect tense. It therefore needs to refer to the present or an ongoing scenario, not the past like those cheeky footballers use it for.

edit: spot the former language student...sorry

indeed - but within the context of describing an incident - then I maintain there's not that much wrong with it. It's not pretty, it sounds naff - but it is forgiveable - unlike "it's went in"!

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Monty, I'm not sure there is much wrong with "It's gone in." It has gone in - same tense as "grandma has gone to the shops".

The real menace - tense-wise - with footballers is "It's went in." arghhhhhh!!

But it's the present perfect tense. It therefore needs to refer to the present or an ongoing scenario, not the past like those cheeky footballers use it for.

edit: spot the former language student...sorry

indeed - but within the context of describing an incident - then I maintain there's not that much wrong with it. It's not pretty, it sounds naff - but it is forgiveable - unlike "it's went in"!

No im just saying, it seems unique to footballers to use it in this way...almost as if they have special english lessons during training ! Nobody else uses it because its incorrect and sounds stupid, but footballers don't let that stop them...!

[Bruce Rioja]

"Your Giggses, your Beckhams, your Rooneys your Gerrards"

What? Absolutely anybody with this surname then?

[thebish]

No im just saying, it seems unique to footballers to use it in this way...almost as if they have special english lessons during training ! Nobody else uses it because its incorrect and sounds stupid, but footballers don't let that stop them...!

far be it from me to defend football grammar - but it is used elsewhere - and not only in a situation of incompleteness or ongoing-ness...

for example,

man has walked on the moon.

(though you couldn't say - "man has walked on the moon last week.")

and...

Not many tourists have visited Wigan.

[ohjimmyjimmy]

No im just saying, it seems unique to footballers to use it in this way...almost as if they have special english lessons during training ! Nobody else uses it because its incorrect and sounds stupid, but footballers don't let that stop them...!

far be it from me to defend football grammar - but it is used elsewhere - and not only in a situation of incompleteness or ongoing-ness...

for example,

man has walked on the moon.

(though you couldn't say - "man has walked on the moon last week.")

and...

Not many tourists have visited Wigan.

uh-oh...do we want to start this?

Ok, your examples don't refer to an action that occured at a specific time (as you admit yourself). 'i've hit it' can only mean 'at one specific time in the past' and therefore is not correct in the context they use it in, this is why it is incorrect ! In the context of referring to a series of events in the past, linked together, they can only use the direct past (the preterite). 'i hit it, it went in'

[thebish]

uh-oh...do we want to start this?

Ok, your examples don't refer to an action that occured at a specific time (as you admit yourself). 'i've hit it' can only mean 'at one specific time in the past' and therefore is not correct in the context they use it in, this is why it is incorrect ! In the context of referring to a series of events in the past, linked together, they can only use the direct past (the preterite). 'i hit it, it went in'[/quote]

I know Jimmy! but it's a slow-news day!

of course it's wrong - but it's not in the same league as the real evil: "I've knocked it round the keeper and it's went in!"

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Are you secretly Scott Parker?

Oh speaking of which, my two main MAIN pet hates of footballer interviews:

1) The guy who always lifts his hands up to his face to scratch an imaginary itch on his cheek every 5 seconds
2) The guy who says 'obviously' about 3 times a sentence, even when what he is talking about isn't bloody obvious.

[TANGODANCER]

Perhaps one of our younger members can translate this message that appeared yesterday on a normally sensible dance website. It was accompanied by an avatar of the poster in Burberry baseball cap obviously taken on his mobile:

me's nt bovad its phat! Mr Mint Mafter Yesterday at 2:52 pm

i's nt bovad bout livin it fly but those danser luvs goin postoffi n getin me books cashed so i can get me new traki init!.me's nt bovad


Beats me?

[thebish]

Perhaps one of our younger members can translate this message that appeared yesterday on a normally sensible dance website. It was accompanied by an avatar of the poster in Burberry baseball cap obviously taken on his mobile:

me's nt bovad its phat! Mr Mint Mafter Yesterday at 2:52 pm

i's nt bovad bout livin it fly but those danser luvs goin postoffi n getin me books cashed so i can get me new traki init!.me's nt bovad


Beats me?

doesn't make a lot of sense - but he's not bothered (bovad) about something - because it is cool (phat) - and he is off down the post-office to cash his books (gyro?) so that he can buy a new track-suit - and, in case you didn't catch it, he's not bothered, it's all cool. Also, he wants your telephone number Tango - because he thinks your pretty fly for a white-guy...

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Perhaps one of our younger members can translate this message that appeared yesterday on a normally sensible dance website. It was accompanied by an avatar of the poster in Burberry baseball cap obviously taken on his mobile:

me's nt bovad its phat! Mr Mint Mafter Yesterday at 2:52 pm

i's nt bovad bout livin it fly but those danser luvs goin postoffi n getin me books cashed so i can get me new traki init!.me's nt bovad


Beats me?

I think phat is good.

nt bovad = not bothered?

'i's nt bovad bout livin it fly but those danser luvs goin postoffi n getin me books cashed so i can get me new traki init!.me's nt bovad '

'i'm not bothered about living flash (?) but those dancer ? going getting my giro cashed so i can get my new tracksuit , i'm not bothered? '

I speak 3 languages, but this one has got me beat...i detect the odd word of english here & there?

[TANGODANCER]

Perhaps one of our younger members can translate this message that appeared yesterday on a normally sensible dance website. It was accompanied by an avatar of the poster in Burberry baseball cap obviously taken on his mobile:

me's nt bovad its phat! Mr Mint Mafter Yesterday at 2:52 pm

i's nt bovad bout livin it fly but those danser luvs goin postoffi n getin me books cashed so i can get me new traki init!.me's nt bovad


Beats me?

doesn't make a lot of sense - but he's not bothered (bovad) about something - because it is cool (phat) - and he is off down the post-office to cash his books (gyro?) so that he can buy a new track-suit - and, in case you didn't catch it, he's not bothered, it's all cool. Also, he wants your telephone number Tango - because he thinks your pretty fly for a white-guy...

He's a white guy (from the photo) and it wasn't addressed to me but the forum. Finished off with : "Chill P.ats.ie you is treecle?

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Is there anything sadder than a white guy trying to be a black guy.

(if he's not wearing an ALi-G costume).

[BWFC_Insane]

I like Coyle, but he is a bit annoying in interviews.

Count the number of times he says "accepting that" or uses the word "quality".

Also why does he sound like he's always speaking through half a mouthfull of saliva?

[Bruce Rioja]

I like Coyle, but he is a bit annoying in interviews.

Count the number of times he says "accepting that" or uses the word "quality".

Also why does he sound like he's always speaking through half a mouthfull of saliva?

Usually preceded by "tremendous", I find. And yes, it's beginning to grate.

[Bruce Rioja]

Is there anything sadder than a white guy trying to be a black guy.

(if he's not wearing an ALi-G costume).

Tim Westwood. "PULL".

[Montreal Wanderer]

I like Coyle, but he is a bit annoying in interviews.

Count the number of times he says "accepting that" or uses the word "quality".

Also why does he sound like he's always speaking through half a mouthfull of saliva?

Usually preceded by "tremendous", I find. And yes, it's beginning to grate.

My ear is becoming accustomed to his accent and I'm finally beginning to understand what he is saying, so the odd solecism or infelicity of language doesn't bother me yet.

[superjohnmcginlay]

Recruitment people. Why are you such wankers? Is it in the job description?

[thebish]

basically - any story that ends:

"...a facebook group has been set up to protest about this."

[Hoboh]

Megson!

[bobo the clown]

Recruitment people. Why are you such wankers? Is it in the job description?

Oooops, JMcG. Another rejection letter on the doormat ?

Much as I'd like to write to rejected candidates sometimes saying "why the fck did you bother to waste my and your own time applying ? Think of the trees." Or "when I put 'minimum requirements are xxxxxx, at what point did it seem appropriate to then apply despite having not one of these ?" Or even "just fck of you pointless waste of oxygen" I typically write back in a respectful and ultimetely false manner. Then again recruitment is only a small part of my job.