Davies & Cahill in the England Squad

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:52 pm

Theres something fishy about this bish, I think they've already signed pre-contracts with Spurs.

chaddy_bwfc · Post by **chaddy_bwfc** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozj9aigun6M

hmmm the FA seem to think england are playing macedonia! But he looks good in that England top!

KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab · Post by **KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:52 pm

chaddy_bwfc wrote:If SKD gets on for england, and plays well, then hopefully it will get a lot of the a**e holes that see him as a talentless bully on the pitch, off his back.

No it won't. The a**eholes will just say "it was only Montenegro, he should never have played".

Remember who you're dealing with here. A**eholes never change their mind, even when the evidence that they should is put in front of them.

seanworth · Post by **seanworth** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:57 pm

KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab wrote:
chaddy_bwfc wrote:If SKD gets on for england, and plays well, then hopefully it will get a lot of the a**e holes that see him as a talentless bully on the pitch, off his back.
No it won't. The a**eholes will just say "it was only Montenegro, he should never have played".

Remember who you're dealing with here. A**eholes never change their mind, even when the evidence that they should is put in front of them.

I'm sure they will but I don't give a toss, I will just be happy he finally got the cap he has long deserved.

Odelay · Post by **Odelay** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:04 pm

Why has Davies come out and declared that "he can be the new Heskey?" The old one was shite and definitely not as good as Davies.

RobbieSavagesLeg · Post by **RobbieSavagesLeg** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:08 pm

Odelay wrote:Why has Davies come out and declared that "he can be the new Heskey?" The old one was shite and definitely not as good as Davies.

I think the word is 'pandering'.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:16 pm

Odelay wrote:Why has Davies come out and declared that "he can be the new Heskey?" The old one was shite and definitely not as good as Davies.

I know it is the current vogue, received wisdom, football orthodoxy etc...

but Heskey was never "shite".

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:18 pm

Odelay wrote:Why has Davies come out and declared that "he can be the new Heskey?" The old one was shite and definitely not as good as Davies.

He was referring to Heskey's usefullness in assists etc. The Sun has a double page spread about KD today which is quite complimentary.

Odelay · Post by **Odelay** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:40 pm

thebish wrote:
Odelay wrote:Why has Davies come out and declared that "he can be the new Heskey?" The old one was shite and definitely not as good as Davies.

I know it is the current vogue, received wisdom, football orthodoxy etc...

but Heskey was never "shite".

The Heskey that played for England was though.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:04 pm

Odelay wrote:
thebish wrote:
Odelay wrote:Why has Davies come out and declared that "he can be the new Heskey?" The old one was shite and definitely not as good as Davies.

I know it is the current vogue, received wisdom, football orthodoxy etc...

but Heskey was never "shite".
The Heskey that played for England was though.

I know it is fashionable to say so - but, no, not really...

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:39 pm

thebish wrote:
Odelay wrote:
thebish wrote:
Odelay wrote:Why has Davies come out and declared that "he can be the new Heskey?" The old one was shite and definitely not as good as Davies.

I know it is the current vogue, received wisdom, football orthodoxy etc...

but Heskey was never "shite".
The Heskey that played for England was though.
I know it is fashionable to say so - but, no, not really...

Agree Bish - he's probably a couple of yards quicker than Davo too.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:49 pm

The tabloids are ass-covring already by saying if Davies had played for a more fashionable club he'd have been in the England side ages ago (just in case he plays and has a good game). If he should play and have a bad game they'll no doubt claim playing for Bolton has ruined him.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:08 pm

I can't agree that Heskey was better than Davo. Nor Davo better than Heskey. I'm not sure either are particularly "International Standard", particularly for a country with high ambitions.

Still say, though, given the direct competition, he should have more caps.

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:26 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:I'm not sure either are particularly "International Standard", particularly for a country with high ambitions

Indeed it is a damning indictment of English football that such a technically limited footballer as Davies can be playing as one of our best

Disgraceful, really

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:28 pm

On the Heskey/Davies debate, I'd choose Davies as a club manager cos he turns up most weeks

hisroyalgingerness · Post by **hisroyalgingerness** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:53 pm

It is bad because if you look behind Davo, there's not much in the queue. The inconsistent Agbonlahor, the Carroll potential call up was laughable. 20 teams in the PL and not a lot coming through

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:18 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:I can't agree that Heskey was better than Davo. Nor Davo better than Heskey. I'm not sure either are particularly "International Standard", particularly for a country with high ambitions.

Still say, though, given the direct competition, he should have more caps.

I'm not sure anyone argued either was better than the other - not directly or strongly anyway. The idea being responded to was the assertion that Heskey was simply shite.

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:24 pm

I hear the term "international quality" bandied about a lot.

I understand the sentiment in using it, I've used it myself before.

But it is a bit meaningless.

Plenty of players that would get nowhere near a first team squad in the championship are "international quality" if its defined as someone who plays consistently at international level and does "well".

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:24 pm

It was used in the context of a team with high aspirations, not a team simply wanting to fullfil fixtures.

TKIZ! · Post by **TKIZ!** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:01 pm

Which, reading into comments that OC has made this week it something he wants for Wanderers. Not to aspire just to finish above the relegation places but to want more

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