Bolton win the World Cup and European Championships by 2014

[Gary the Enfield]

Following a point made on another thread........

England squad shortly to be populated by current (and ex) Bolton players:

Nolan - plays for a 'big' club, but we made him.
Wilshere - Ditto.
Cahill - Will get another chance
Davies - MAY get another chance
Muamba - MAY step up from the under 21's.

Does this mean Bolton could then claim to have won the World Cup AND the European Championship in a few years time? What will Wet Sham have to celebrate then?

[jaffka]

Then in 2054 we will be a yo-yo team but play football the 'right' way, be the media darlings as the team that won the European Champions.

Oh and as fans, pour scorn on the long ball teams of Arsenal and West Ham.

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

No no no no no no no no please no.

We're better people than this.

We're not so desperate for smugness that we try and lay claim to something that so evidently isn't there.

Let's take pride that our players can be involved. Let's not - even tongue-in-cheek - start becoming them.

[Gary the Enfield]

No no no no no no no no please no.

We're better people than this.

We're not so desperate for smugness that we try and lay claim to something that so evidently isn't there.

Let's take pride that our players can be involved. Let's not - even tongue-in-cheek - start becoming them.

Don't worry KB, it's just a bit of fun. Besides, by 2054 most of us will be dead. This can be 'bumped' by the next but one generation.

[Lofthouse Lower]

How did we 'make' Nolan?

[Lord Kangana]

You haven't had the birds and the bees chat yet then?

[thebish]

No no no no no no no no please no.

We're better people than this.

We're not so desperate for smugness that we try and lay claim to something that so evidently isn't there.

Let's take pride that our players can be involved. Let's not - even tongue-in-cheek - start becoming them.

Don't worry KB, it's just a bit of fun. Besides, by 2054 most of us will be dead. This can be 'bumped' by the next but one generation.

KB certainly will be - he's 51 today...

[Gary the Enfield]

How did we 'make' Nolan?

Well obviously I don't mean it literally, as I didn't say we 'literally made him'.

The meaning is implicit. He came to us a raw youth and left, some eight years later as a decent standard goalscoring midfielder, and Captain of the club. I would say that was mostly down to his skill and dedication but the coaches at Bolton can take credit for developing that talent or, in other words, 'making' him the footballer he is today.

Is that enough explanation oh terse one?

[Lofthouse Lower]

How did we 'make' Nolan?

Well obviously I don't mean it literally, as I didn't say we 'literally made him'.

The meaning is implicit. He came to us a raw youth and left, some eight years later as a decent standard goalscoring midfielder, and Captain of the club. I would say that was mostly down to his skill and dedication but the coaches at Bolton can take credit for developing that talent or, in other words, 'making' him the footballer he is today.

Is that enough explanation oh terse one?

Not trying to be funny or anything, just that we took him from Liverpool, so in my definition of the term then he was 'made' there...

[Gary the Enfield]

How did we 'make' Nolan?

Well obviously I don't mean it literally, as I didn't say we 'literally made him'.

The meaning is implicit. He came to us a raw youth and left, some eight years later as a decent standard goalscoring midfielder, and Captain of the club. I would say that was mostly down to his skill and dedication but the coaches at Bolton can take credit for developing that talent or, in other words, 'making' him the footballer he is today.

Is that enough explanation oh terse one?

Not trying to be funny or anything, just that we took him from Liverpool, so in my definition of the term then he was 'made' there...

Really? I thought he was released as a 15 year old and came to our academy where he got something like 10 gcse's. That had nothing to do with Bolton?

[ohjimmyjimmy]

How quickly 'light-hearted' becomes 'right-heated' these days.

[Gary the Enfield]

How quickly 'light-hearted' becomes 'right-heated' these days.

Indeed.

[Lofthouse Lower]

How did we 'make' Nolan?

Well obviously I don't mean it literally, as I didn't say we 'literally made him'.

The meaning is implicit. He came to us a raw youth and left, some eight years later as a decent standard goalscoring midfielder, and Captain of the club. I would say that was mostly down to his skill and dedication but the coaches at Bolton can take credit for developing that talent or, in other words, 'making' him the footballer he is today.

Is that enough explanation oh terse one?

Not trying to be funny or anything, just that we took him from Liverpool, so in my definition of the term then he was 'made' there...

Really? I thought he was released as a 15 year old and came to our academy where he got something like 10 gcse's. That had nothing to do with Bolton?

Sorry, but what are you talking about? GCSE's? I'm talking about his football career, which began at Liverpool - therefore he was developed/made/invented there, as far as I am concerned.

[Lord Kangana]

I believe he has a longer association with BWFC than with any other club.

[Gary the Enfield]

How did we 'make' Nolan?

Well obviously I don't mean it literally, as I didn't say we 'literally made him'.

The meaning is implicit. He came to us a raw youth and left, some eight years later as a decent standard goalscoring midfielder, and Captain of the club. I would say that was mostly down to his skill and dedication but the coaches at Bolton can take credit for developing that talent or, in other words, 'making' him the footballer he is today.

Is that enough explanation oh terse one?

Not trying to be funny or anything, just that we took him from Liverpool, so in my definition of the term then he was 'made' there...

Really? I thought he was released as a 15 year old and came to our academy where he got something like 10 gcse's. That had nothing to do with Bolton?

Sorry, but what are you talking about? GCSE's? I'm talking about his football career, which began at Liverpool - therefore he was developed/made/invented there, as far as I am concerned.

He didn't have a career at Liverpool.

[Lofthouse Lower]

Well obviously I don't mean it literally, as I didn't say we 'literally made him'.

The meaning is implicit. He came to us a raw youth and left, some eight years later as a decent standard goalscoring midfielder, and Captain of the club. I would say that was mostly down to his skill and dedication but the coaches at Bolton can take credit for developing that talent or, in other words, 'making' him the footballer he is today.

Is that enough explanation oh terse one?

Not trying to be funny or anything, just that we took him from Liverpool, so in my definition of the term then he was 'made' there...

Really? I thought he was released as a 15 year old and came to our academy where he got something like 10 gcse's. That had nothing to do with Bolton?

Sorry, but what are you talking about? GCSE's? I'm talking about his football career, which began at Liverpool - therefore he was developed/made/invented there, as far as I am concerned.

He didn't have a career at Liverpool.

I didn't say he did.

If you want to lay claim to have 'made' a player, then as far as I am concerned then you'd have to have brought him through the club from being the very start....and we've not had many of those lately.

[boltonboris]

Not trying to be funny or anything, just that we took him from Liverpool, so in my definition of the term then he was 'made' there...

Really? I thought he was released as a 15 year old and came to our academy where he got something like 10 gcse's. That had nothing to do with Bolton?

Sorry, but what are you talking about? GCSE's? I'm talking about his football career, which began at Liverpool - therefore he was developed/made/invented there, as far as I am concerned.

He didn't have a career at Liverpool.

I didn't say he did.

If you want to lay claim to have 'made' a player, then as far as I am concerned then you'd have to have brought him through the club from being the very start....and we've not had many of those lately.

Liverpool discarded him as not being good enough. We took him on and made him good enough. Liverpool were at various stages of his BWFC career, heavily linked with him. He's captained 2 Premier League teams and scored dozens of goals since Liverpool decided he couldn't cut it.

We made him

[Gary the Enfield]

Not trying to be funny or anything, just that we took him from Liverpool, so in my definition of the term then he was 'made' there...

Really? I thought he was released as a 15 year old and came to our academy where he got something like 10 gcse's. That had nothing to do with Bolton?

Sorry, but what are you talking about? GCSE's? I'm talking about his football career, which began at Liverpool - therefore he was developed/made/invented there, as far as I am concerned.

He didn't have a career at Liverpool.

I didn't say he did.

If you want to lay claim to have 'made' a player, then as far as I am concerned then you'd have to have brought him through the club from being the very start....and we've not had many of those lately.

Yes. You did.

[Lofthouse Lower]

We've got differing definitions of 'made', that's all - no need to get shirty x

[Gary the Enfield]

We've got differing definitions of 'made', that's all - no need to get shirty x

I wasn't. Just stating facts. Now, about this light-hearted topic. Do you have a contribution?