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I'd no idea as to whether they're married or not. Is marriage not fast becoming a failed institution anyway?thebish wrote:I see a Millibaby has been born... now all the leaders of the major parties have babies..
It is perhaps a refreshing indication of how society has changed that nobody appears to be up in arms about Ed not being married to Justine...
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indeed - that's my point - 20yrs ago it would have been big news and might have stopped him being considered for the leadership of the party. The fact you didn't know indicates that society has changed - refreshingly so, as I said.Bruce Rioja wrote:I'd no idea as to whether they're married or not. Is marriage not fast becoming a failed institution anyway?thebish wrote:I see a Millibaby has been born... now all the leaders of the major parties have babies..
It is perhaps a refreshing indication of how society has changed that nobody appears to be up in arms about Ed not being married to Justine...
(thebish in critical of the labour party post shock outrage scandal...)
from t'daily mash...
from t'daily mash...
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/ ... 011103239/DEFIANT LABOUR MPs STAND BY GOEBBELS
A GROUP of Labour MPs has written to the German government demanding a posthumous pardon for Joseph Goebbels.
The MPs have defied their party's leadership and accused Germany of treating the late Nazi propagandist 'unfairly'.
Julian Cook, MP for Darlington North West, said: "The way they dealt with Joseph was very unbalanced. They are riding roughshod over his right to appeal, just because he's dead.
"I also think the Labour leadership should do the right thing and thank Joseph for the huge contribution he has made to the party in recent years."
He added: "This is about democracy. It's about making sure that people are able to say whatever they want regardless of how true it happens to be. Or have the courts decided that democracy means something else?
"And what message does this send to those of us who got into politics so that we could frighten people using nothing but the power of our imagination?"
But Labour deputy leader, Harriet Harman, refused to support the backbenchers, adding: "The Labour Party can never be seen to condone people who get caught lying.
"Apart from Peter Mandelson and all those times I told Pauline Prescott that John wasn't covering his secretary's tits in lukewarm chip fat."
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Bijou Bob wrote:thebish wrote:I see a Millibaby has been born... now all the leaders of the major parties have babies..
Anyone on here think our erstwhile Foreign Secretary and his wife will have a child anytime soon?
No.....me neither............
hmmmm.... maybe I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you had not heard about the miscarriages Ffion has had....
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i mentioned moon on a stick with oobama's promises t'other day.superjohnmcginlay wrote:http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 011103243/
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I know where his daughter was!superjohnmcginlay wrote:http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 011103243/
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I do hope she was at her residence concentrating on her studies, grateful for the opportunity she has been given. And nowhere near a fire extinguisher.William the White wrote:I know where his daughter was!superjohnmcginlay wrote:http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 011103243/
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Where would any of us be without the consolation offered by hope?superjohnmcginlay wrote:I do hope she was at her residence concentrating on her studies, grateful for the opportunity she has been given. And nowhere near a fire extinguisher.William the White wrote:I know where his daughter was!superjohnmcginlay wrote:http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 011103243/
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A very disturbing thing happened last week...
I went to go and see a socialist national finance minister speak and was very impressed.
It was George Papaconstantinou, finance minister in the Greek government, which is formed by the Panhellenic Socialist Movement party.
He was urbane and intelligent, yet likeable, in a serious, rather than folksy sort of way. He had an undergraduate degree and PhD in economics from LSE (the host of the event), with a masters degree at New York in between - clearly, then, a technocrat, but he wasn't at all nerdy.
The event was titled 'Greece is changing' and, as much of a basket case that country is, he came across to me as someone who could take Greece in the right direction.
And, before anyone asks, I was sat there the whole time thinking "I wish we had somebody like this rather than Osborne".
I'm even beginning to wonder whether being a socialist even means the same thing in Greece as it does here... perhaps, there, one would be considered to be such if they expect doctors earning 150,000 Euros to declare income of more than 15,000 Euros...
I went to go and see a socialist national finance minister speak and was very impressed.
It was George Papaconstantinou, finance minister in the Greek government, which is formed by the Panhellenic Socialist Movement party.
He was urbane and intelligent, yet likeable, in a serious, rather than folksy sort of way. He had an undergraduate degree and PhD in economics from LSE (the host of the event), with a masters degree at New York in between - clearly, then, a technocrat, but he wasn't at all nerdy.
The event was titled 'Greece is changing' and, as much of a basket case that country is, he came across to me as someone who could take Greece in the right direction.
And, before anyone asks, I was sat there the whole time thinking "I wish we had somebody like this rather than Osborne".
I'm even beginning to wonder whether being a socialist even means the same thing in Greece as it does here... perhaps, there, one would be considered to be such if they expect doctors earning 150,000 Euros to declare income of more than 15,000 Euros...
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I was at a dinner in Cardiff on Thursday evening at which the keynote speaker was Sir David Lewis, who said, and I quote: "Gordon Brown was by far and away the worst Prime Minister and the worst Chancellor of the Exchequer in all of modern history". He then got stuck into Vince Cable regarding the abolition of the Regional Development Agencies.
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Well if Sir David Lewis said it then it must be true..Bruce Rioja wrote:I was at a dinner in Cardiff on Thursday evening at which the keynote speaker was Sir David Lewis, who said, and I quote: "Gordon Brown was by far and away the worst Prime Minister and the worst Chancellor of the Exchequer in all of modern history". He then got stuck into Vince Cable regarding the abolition of the Regional Development Agencies.
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No - it's always a safer bet to to get the view on such matters from a bloke on a football forum than it is those of a corporate finance solicitor that's worked in the city for nearly 40 years. How does it go? Oh yesWorthy4England wrote:Well if Sir David Lewis said it then it must be true..Bruce Rioja wrote:I was at a dinner in Cardiff on Thursday evening at which the keynote speaker was Sir David Lewis, who said, and I quote: "Gordon Brown was by far and away the worst Prime Minister and the worst Chancellor of the Exchequer in all of modern history". He then got stuck into Vince Cable regarding the abolition of the Regional Development Agencies.
Always good to get a view of economics from a solicitor.

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Indeed - CFO related solicitors are noted for their wide ranging views. I usually try to get sat next to them at dinner parties.Bruce Rioja wrote:No - it's always a safer bet to to get the view on such matters from a bloke on a football forum than it is those of a corporate finance solicitor that's worked in the city for nearly 40 years. How does it go? Oh yesWorthy4England wrote:Well if Sir David Lewis said it then it must be true..Bruce Rioja wrote:I was at a dinner in Cardiff on Thursday evening at which the keynote speaker was Sir David Lewis, who said, and I quote: "Gordon Brown was by far and away the worst Prime Minister and the worst Chancellor of the Exchequer in all of modern history". He then got stuck into Vince Cable regarding the abolition of the Regional Development Agencies.
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did he justify his claim or was it just a throwaway opinion?Bruce Rioja wrote:I was at a dinner in Cardiff on Thursday evening at which the keynote speaker was Sir David Lewis, who said, and I quote: "Gordon Brown was by far and away the worst Prime Minister and the worst Chancellor of the Exchequer in all of modern history". He then got stuck into Vince Cable regarding the abolition of the Regional Development Agencies.
if he did - then how on earth does he measure such a thing as "worst" chancellor in all of modern history - what kind of parameters was he using? I'd be at a loss to suggest a very reliable way of judging one chancellor against another in such a way as to give a reliable ranking given that they all served in different economic times. Even if you're just picking labour chancellors - what paramaters would lead to Brown being judged a worse chancellor than Denis Healey or Roy Jenkins (for instance)?
and if you allow Tory ones - (which, I'm guessing Sir David lewis would not) - then - John Major???? Norman Lamont??)
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